simmars-forum-threads Utilities Buildings

[GouRou 2]

the best place to put something like that is right before like a mountain range if possible, because the storm slows as pressure builds up on the windward side, and higher pressure equals more winds, and higher amounts of static in this case. but you can also do this on a smaller scale by using steps of antennas, as the air moves over each step, it hits a different section of air band, so some steppe'd terrain would do more good than an open plain. and being before a range of hills would be even better yet... just for you realism folks out there.

I thought of a kind of dirty power plant, it's the obvious and cheap one, waste to energy. it's already on our list, we could make it obviously grubby and still within the boundaries of martian reality.

[Jim 6]

I like the nuclear power idea.

[fosterk 4]

someone build this:

for mars. that would fit in really well

it is called arecibo space telescope

[GouRou 2]

that's a nice idea, but it isnt utilities, it would be landmark or industrial https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/3.gif>

[fosterk 4]

well i was thinking along the lines of a microwave power source/comunications with othe colonies on other planets.

[fosterk 4]

okay people, just rendering the thing and ill put it on a lot, still just a model though, only textures. whats that, yes i am getting better at B.A.T. https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/9.gif>

[Daeley 46]

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GouRou[/quoteAUTHOR]

you can lessen the heat by fusing higher weight elements, we need fusion for creating our nitrogen, but nitrogen will give off a lot less heat to make then hydrogen would, so we can have a fairly low energy reactor that simply churns out gasses. I know that we have the problem of radioactivity, but we also have at least 50 years to figure it out.[/quoteMESSAGE][/bEGINQUOTE]

I'd just like to point out that creating nitrogen trough fusion is probably the least effective way to get nitrogen gases... nitrogen is basically an inert gas in our atmosphere, so I believe that the small amounts that could be necessairy to increase civilisation size etc are best transoprted from earth

secondly, nitrogen fusion is close to impossible, even within a margin of 50 years. Why? Well bacause temperatures required to reach nitrogen fusion are way (and I mean WAY) higher that those to fuse hydrogen. Some data on red giants and supernova's tells us that nitrogen fusion will probably need temperatures of 3,000,000,000 K and yes, thare are nine zeroes in that number. In compairison, fusing hydrogen happens in the sun at 15,000,000 K, or about 200 times colder.

[GouRou 2]

hah, that wont work sadly. while it alleviates the problem of making all new automata, it brings up more problems, those being that the tubes arent transparent, they are plain images. second, while the models will slope, they never seem to line up properly, that's not really how they were intended to be used you see. it MIGHT be possible, but it would never be as nice as simply watching the sims walk down the street, because you could never see the sims in the tubes. https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/14.gif>

[fosterk 4]

sorry about this, i had to render it again and i am having trouble with the plugin manager. stupid piece of cr*p

[fosterk 4]

ok it is on draft and no textures and on a quick lot too. anyway:

 

[fosterk 4]

any comments  ????? please  !?!?!

 

[GouRou 2]

they need to be bigger

the mars gravity allows you to create truly enormous structures, I think if you were going to make something like that, then you should take full advantage of scale, render time will suck, but you could make an incredibly huge communications dish.

 

edit: find the diameter of that dish, and multiply it by 3, then build that

 

edit2: 'The huge dish is 305 m (1000 feet) in diameter, 167 feet deep'

if you were to make it 3 times the diameter, that would be 57 tiles wide, or nearly as wide as a small city

[fosterk 4]

i will try making it to the accurate scale/2 times bigger. i think making it a small city size would be stupid (plus my pc cant handle that either... LOL)

 

[fosterk 4]

im finding this task very hard to do...

i need to know exactly whick parts of the sphere i need to cut off to make it prescise, as the dish is not a semisphere..

help please from anyone

[fosterk 4]

i have cut off the top piece of the sphere with the mesh edit tool. the problem now is that when i get an above view in perspective, there is nothing therehttps://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/38.gif>https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/38.gif>, from below, it can be seen fine. this is turning out to be impossible. ill hand it over to the first challenger, mean while im going to start making an observatory. sorry for letting you down gourou. i did the best a 13 yr old can do.https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/22.gif>

[GouRou 2]

it's ok fosterk, I might do this myself, I have a few pet projects.

 

I might make it small city size, the reason for this is it would look downright wicked in region view https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/9.gif>https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/10.gif>

[fosterk 4]

thanks, i mite try an observatory

 

[GouRou 2]

This thread is for posting of your SimMars utilities buildings only, ideas on these buildings are also welcome, but try to remain within the guidelines, these are very broad, mainly anything you can imagine that humans could build by 2050, with the scarce resources they will have, I will be posting guidelines later today.

[Kent B. Rong 0]

Well, I was just playing SIMEarth and a idea was created:

AN OMEGA FORCE GENERATOR!

It would only suck a small amount of the energy of the planet and use it to activate another power plant to do that.

[Kent B. Rong 0]

Sorry for the double post. I still can

[Pol Petrol 0]

it may be too late but anyway...

If you need N2 I see no problem in seperating it from the air. 3% should be enough, it's not as if you need a huge constant supply like oxygen.

Maybe slowly trough membranes or trough lindt distillation in batches... But since you'd only have to replace leaked N2 I wouldn't make a facility for it.

Anyway, it looks like a really interesting project!

/em goes of to install the beta version...

[fartboy 17]

Here's a power station I designed today. It extracts Hydrogen from the atmosphere, modifies its charge and sends it through a supercollider that uses centrivical force to accelerate the hydrogen atoms to 99.997% the speed of light, seperating the electrons from the nucleus and using them to create heat and electrical energy. The excess hydrogen , which is now solid due to the loss of an electron making the ionic charge to 0(Ionic bonding, gr 9) is stored in an ice pool for later use in heating. If you have any comments or suggestions please tell me.
https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//Power%20Station%20Day.JPG align=baseline>
https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//Power%20Station%20Night.JPG align=baseline>

[Cjah 15]

Damn FosterK and I thought I posted alot..

I see a few double and triple posts...

Well other then that I like the different power ideas....Even if this is an old thread the people still have good ideas...

I can't wait to see a few of these on the STEX!

[sunlord 1]

Power on mars can be provided through orbital Microwave, Solar, Nuclear or Fusion, and Wind though you'd need one of hell of a wind tower since wind speed in the Martian atmosphere has been measured to exceed 200 km/hr (125 miles/hr) typically. Gusts can often reach 500 to 600 km/hr... if you could harvest this you'd need some place to store that power for later use. There is a constant wind in some areas so large wind power stations would be possible... Coal/Oil/Gas aren't possible in all likely hood. You'd also probally need lots of hydrogen for vehicle power since you can't use internal combustion thought solar/battery/fuel cell combinaiton would be best

[fartboy 17]

Here's a Superturbine I'm making. Tell me what you think, any suggestions or what its stats should be. It will be a 2x5 lot.
https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//Superturbine.JPG align=baseline>

Edit: No feedback at all? Come on, no ones ever been happy with my initial idea. Help me out here.

[fartboy 17]

Really, really late for me to reply, but anyway, pure oxygen isn't a poison. Oxygen is O2. Ozone (O3) and Monoxide (O) are poisons and cause respiratory problems, damaging our brains because of lack of oxygen in the bloodstream. Cells also slowly die off because not enough oxygen is being converted into CO2. Normal O2 is fine.

[DaMaster_architect 0]

We can't build too many different kinds of power plants at mars, because of lack of resources. I posted this somewhere else on the forum:

[...] oil plants and coal plants just CANT exist at mars. nuclear plants neither. nor all the other plants can, except the fusion plant and the solar plant. Thats because they use fuel which has to be imported from earth, which is really expensive. The montly costs of a simple power plant would then be astronomical high, lol

NASA and ESA engineers thought of a machine which recycles, where mars rocks are heated, and via a difficult process the machine makes hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen+Oxygen = water

For SimMars, you could make such a machine which turns garbage into water?

 

also, for plants, could you make a solar plant and a fusion plant, and the microwave energy plant from SC3000? The microwave energy plant gets its energy from a huge solarcollector which is in an orbit around Mars. The fusion plant should also look a bit more like in SC3000, because the design of SC4, with its small domes, can very easy be demolished by meteorids and storms.

the fusion plant can obtain its fuel from the machine described above.

[scififan68 23]

Good idea, it would work if it was showing activite 

[scififan68 23]

Sun hits Mars surface, but it need to be cleaned alot. They should make an iron power plant,it takes iron rocks and melts them,they liquid would turn the generator and make power.     

[brambojr 0]

I know it sounds far fetched, but in 50 years we really should have at least one space elevator on Earth (politics and environmental concerns, aside). With that we should be able to sling shot elevators (supplies, people, etc) to destinations of our choosing within the solar system.

That said, why can't solar captured in orbit and electricity sent down the elevator to power the station below? These elevators would have to be located at or very near the equator to maintain geo-syncronous orbit. More than one could be used on any planet (or moon) and these elevators could be linked at GEO (geosynchoronous orbit height).

While nothing is certain yet has anyone looked into a future after we figure out Carbon nanotubes?? Things will be much lighter and stronger, filters better and cheaper . . . of course the advantage they will give in computing may be surpassed by quantum computing in 50 years . . .

Take a look. Google Space elevator and then google carbon nanotubes - checking them at google news might help . . .

Water would be a concern at the equator (But I sure don't want to be near the poles on Mars . . .) perhaps you can pay for supply shipments from Earth - we have water to spare. Conservation would still be an issue. Water would need to have a hefty premium.

Lack of adequate funding for structures would result in increased need for air and water . . .