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Yes, I think 3,776m (236 tiles) would be the most appropriate for medium-sized international airports. Some funny facts, Kai-Tak (I'm sure you've heard about it's dangerous approach), was only 3390m (only about 212 tiles). What skill it must have taken to get a 747-400 to takeoff of that death trap.

Meanwhile, Dubai (OMDB) Airport's longest runway is 4,477m (almost 280 tiles) :lol:

These guys are playing it safe!

Kai Tak is a little shorter actually, but nvm. and the new one in Hong Kong, Chek Lap Kok stands at 3,799m. If you want long runways, nothing beats USAF. Edwards AFB which has 8 runways longer than 4,500m, the longest at over 12 kilometers, certainly the longest worldwide, but it's neither paved nor commercial. It's in fact an auxilliary for the Space Shuttle Program. X68/KTTS (Kennedy Space Center) stands at about 4,500m aswell. AR51 (you know what it is) has the second longest runway worldwide, but same story, not commercial.

If I'm informed correctly, the longest commercially used runway is Ulyanovsk Vostochny, Russia, with exactly 5,000m, followed by Denver, 34L/16R at 4876m.

FYI, my latest SC4 airport, a former military which, like Edwards, served the Shuttle Program, has 18/36 and 09R/27L, concrete, at 5,024m x 3wide threshold to threshold (with displaced threshold and stopway both stand at 5,984m) and 09L/27R, paved, at 3,088m x 2wide (with displaced threshold and stopway 3,184m. the parallel runways are separated 800m centerline/centerline thus allowing for segregated parallel operation.

Still wonder how KLAX does the trick with parallel ops... I know 2nd hand (or 1st hand, if watching the video counts) that they do segregated parallel ops on the 25s but they are less than 760m apart... maybe some sort of exception, just like the suicide ops at night (if weather allows it. the bother inner runways are in use, one for approach, one for departure, and both runs "over the ocean" = opposite direction for approach / departure)

NorthStarDCM: looks nice, I like the 3 wide. Still I think it might be a little short. But great use of the taxiways, nice to see some rapid exit taxiways.


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the gates in the lower part of the mosaik are too close to the taxiway, the KLM and the South African will surely hit the tails of the Air France and the Air New Zealand.

Other than that I see a well developed layout.


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runways are 576m long. way! too! short!

A C17 needs at lest 2,316m for takeoff (144 tiles) and 914m for landing (57 tiles)

With the Blackbird, which is NOT a real ramjet but a hybrid of turbojet(lowspeed) and ramjet (highspeed) and therefore considerably efficient on the ground, takeoff distance is 1,649m (103 tiles) and landing distance 1,100m (68 tiles).

(figures according to aircraftcompare.com)

Also, except for the center line, your runway misses EVERY marking. Even in military aviation, regulations like this apply.

take a look at the show us your airport thread and at real life airports (at best in google earth with the measuring tool.

Further, there are no diagonal puzzle pieces for runways yet


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NorthStarDCM: looks nice, I like the 3 wide. Still I think it might be a little short. But great use of the taxiways, nice to see some rapid exit taxiways.

This is how things were made with RMIP-1... Triple-tile runways and rapid exit taxiways will see a new age of glory if RMIP-3 is released sometime.

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Okay, here is two pictures from HiroshimaNishi airport, the old one soon to be bulldozed ( IRL and maybe in SC4 too, i'm waiting to see what they're going to do with it. All I know so far is that they're going to build an heliport..)

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NorthStarDCM: looks nice, I like the 3 wide. Still I think it might be a little short. But great use of the taxiways, nice to see some rapid exit taxiways.

I never intended to build a Super-Hub international airport. Runway works out to just about 7490' plus overruns. Sufficient for my "somewhere in the Midwestern US" plan for my region.

Largest aircraft are 757-200s, A310Fs, and the like, so 7500' should be plenty for those for continental operations.

I may build "A former USAF SAC base" across 2 medium cities later on... but I'm still considering that one.

Anyways, after the above screenshot I decided to redo Terminal 2 (upper one)... so here's some detailed shots:

Terminal 2:

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Serves: United (routes: Chicago O'Hare-A320, 757-200; Denver-A319, EMB170; Los Angeles-A319; San Francisco-A320, A319; Houston-737-800, EMB170, CRJ200; Newark-757-200, 737-800, A319), Air Canada (route: Toronto-EMB-190), USAirways Express (routes: Phoenix-EMB170; Charlotte-EMB170), Delta (routes: Atlanta-737-800, MD88; Detroit-A320, 737-800; Minneapolis/StPaul-MD90; Orlando-EMB170; New York LGA-737-800; Salt Lake City-EMB175, CRJ-700), JetBlue (route: New York JFK-A320)

(HD mosaic link: https://i.imgur.com/71xAcl.jpg

Terminal 1:

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Serves: Frontier (route: Devner-A319); Virgin America (route: San Francisco-A319); American (routes: Dallas-737-800, MD80; Miami 737-800; Chicago MD80, CRJ700); SouthWest (routes: St Louis, Tampa, Chicago-Midway, Phoenix, Las Vegas-all 73G/733); Air Tran (route: Atlanta-717)


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Okay, here is two pictures from HiroshimaNishi airport, the old one soon to be bulldozed ( IRL and maybe in SC4 too, i'm waiting to see what they're going to do with it. All I know so far is that they're going to build an heliport..)

Woah that's nice


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I never intended to build a Super-Hub international airport. Runway works out to just about 7490' plus overruns. Sufficient for my "somewhere in the Midwestern US" plan for my region.

Largest aircraft are 757-200s, A310Fs, and the like, so 7500' should be plenty for those for continental operations.

I see you're point. and 7500' is quite enough for a regional. But the 752, at MTOM, needs a good 10k' so I guess FLLTOM keeps your airlines from packing the bird, which is perfectly normal, especially in (inter)regional traffic. 738s need about 7800' at MTOM and they start from the airport round the corner which has just been shortened to about 6000'

I like the terminal design, very straight forward.


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I see you're point. and 7500' is quite enough for a regional. But the 752, at MTOM, needs a good 10k' so I guess FLLTOM keeps your airlines from packing the bird, which is perfectly normal, especially in (inter)regional traffic. 738s need about 7800' at MTOM and they start from the airport round the corner which has just been shortened to about 6000'

I like the terminal design, very straight forward.

Exactly...

Maximum Takeoff Distance =/= Normal Operating Takeoff Distance

757s on North American routes use short runways all the time at airports like LaGuardia, Washington National and Midway. They limit range a bit for sure, but that's about it.

Anyways, I think I got it "finished" (at least until new RMIP or more aircraft or new terminals or whatever come along ;) )

Finished runway, also shows Air cargo and FBO/General Aviation ramps, though i may remove the general aviation to suburban airports later:

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Added an Air National Guard C-130 ramp as well, would like to get some military style large hangars to finish it off, anyone know any?:

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Exactly...

Maximum Takeoff Distance =/= Normal Operating Takeoff Distance

757s on North American routes use short runways all the time at airports like LaGuardia, Washington National and Midway. They limit range a bit for sure, but that's about it.

hm don't get confused with the terms. there's no such thing as a maximum or normal takeoff distance, only a minimum takeoff distance which is a matter of reaching takeoff speed, which means a direct result of takeoff mass and meteorological conditions that influence performance (density which is a result of temperature and altitude; but also humidty/precipitation and wind).

so if a plane, like the 752, is in the 10k' ish feet takeoff distance, at maximum takeoff mass, this is the shortest possible distance from a complete stop to a position where the aircraft reaches screen hight (15ft, 35ft, 50ft, depending on several conditions), at best this happens at V2 (takeoff safety speed)... ideally, this happens within the runway limits, but it's not uncommon, especially on heavy longhaul freight, that the airplane needs every foot of runway and reaches screen height by the end of the clearway. One of these "awsum pilot wit dem awesum skillz and crazy flyin duuuude maan" things youtube is full of (I think of a video with an AN225 licking every inch of the runway clean before liftoff)

but I think we're slowly drifing too deep into details here.

fact is that the takeoff distances are determined for maximum takeoff mass because this is what you want to have, because the higher the payload, the more you earn from the flight. this also means more weight, so you need more fuel which, in turn, means again more weight.

that's why a whole department is in for route planning and ac deployment in many many airlines and these folks are hard on the numbers. whats the route, hows the demand, which plane suits best both the performance aspects aswell as the demand and, last but not least, how do we create revenue on this route.

anyway enough daytrips to the world of real aviation, I see your airport looks pretty well, nice executed planning, even outside the airport limits, at leat from what I can tell.

Really like the mixed use of civil and military. slowly becoming a rare sight around here unless its a show or military practice (a lotta airborne stuff going on here so we get some hercules and transalls doing their rounds)


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very nice airport, NorthStarDC4M! Not a fan of the terminals design, but still you've put some good effort in it!


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Here is an aerial view of the finished terminal area from the airport I posted in my second-previous post.

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plain awesome recreation of the hiroshimanishi.

may I ask for a closeup off the approach area of runway 27, the far right side in this picture? to me, it looks like you used the PAPI for approach lighting. these should be placed next to the 1000ft markers (the large white bars), as they give a visual reference about the glide slope (too low, on the glide or too high), which is in reference to these markers. minor detail tho.

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Thanks GMT! Yes, I've not really used the proper approach lighting because I did not have the space to use the full one in that area ( to close to a avenue and RHW), I'll take some shots for you in a moment. ^^


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Thanks GMT! Yes, I've not really used the proper approach lighting because I did not have the space to use the full one in that area ( to close to a avenue and RHW), I'll take some shots for you in a moment. ^^

you can still place the PAPI there, left or right of the driveway, I'd prefer to place it right of it so a possible car on the driveway won't block the visual reference.


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Sokohan International Airport (Part of it)

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The terminal stil needs work, but it will be worked out.

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Still very nice work matsof! :wub: Can't wait to put my hands on it!

GMT, here are the close up I said to show you, sorry for the delay, I forgot to upload them... :blush:

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Any advices for the approach lightings? I'm going to post, later today, some pictures from the international airport, so you can give me even more advices. :D:wub:


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I made a CJ of my airport projects long ago, but didn't took off for me (although i may resume them in the near future).

heres Izuna Kamui International Airport (improved from my CJ post long ago) :

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Any advices for the approach lightings? I'm going to post, later today, some pictures from the international airport, so you can give me even more advices. :D:wub:

you can try and use the SSALS. it's lot is 2x14 and the overall size is 2x23. but I think this would require a bit remodeling of the approach area.

Or abandon the approach lights completely, Hiroshimanishi doesn't have it anyway.


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you can try and use the SSALS. it's lot is 2x14 and the overall size is 2x23. but I think this would require a bit remodeling of the approach area.

Or abandon the approach lights completely, Hiroshimanishi doesn't have it anyway.

why not use these instead : http://www.bripizza.net/sc4/appt/appt.html , the approach lights are only 2x7 and also includes a localizer and glideslope.

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Well, not an airport, but I suppose that since helicopters are also air vehicles, I can post this helipad here. Its from my most recent CJ entry.

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Karastadt International Airport is a small international airport, with approx. 7 million passenger movements per year.

Cargo operations are located at the eastern side of the airfield, served by Cathay Pacific Cargo, FedEx, UPS and ABX

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Domestic Flights are handled by the 4 major national carriers; Titan, Caledonian, Phoenix and Gryphonair

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Caledonian and Titan 757-200's and a Gryphonair 737-800

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International destinations include Vancouver, Toronto and Calgary Canada (Westjet and Air Canada), Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas USA (United, Titan, Delta, American), Mexico City and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico (Titan, Mexicana and Aeromexico), Tokyo, Japan (Titan) and Sydney, Australia (Qantas) among others

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The international terminal generally handles any sized aircraft, up to the B747-8i, though none services the city directly. Future expansion could pave the way for increased international travel as the city continues to grow. Current census figures place the city's population at 1.2 million; a 2.3% increase over the previous year's figures.

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An overview of the airport operation

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Phoenix Airlines' newest additions to the fleet; 23 Boeing 737-800's serving domestic routes only.

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Tonight's special guests! :yes:

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you can try and use the SSALS. it's lot is 2x14 and the overall size is 2x23. but I think this would require a bit remodeling of the approach area.

Or abandon the approach lights completely, Hiroshimanishi doesn't have it anyway.

why not use these instead : http://www.bripizza..../appt/appt.html , the approach lights are only 2x7 and also includes a localizer and glideslope.

never seen them before... little clumsy in their appearance, but still a very nice addition :thumb:


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I never post in the forums, though I have been an occasional lurker and have downloaded a lot of custom content from the site in this last year.

Here is my airport creation, partly inspired by the new international airport in Beijing (long thin terminal with wide ends, a monorail running up the middle), some hints of Heathrow around the periphery (admin and car parking at the left). I also studied google earth imagery to get the runway, taxi, apron and ramp markings mostly true to life. Some of the scaling might be off, it's a difficult game to keep things at a realistic scale I always find.

I can show some close ups if anyone is interested.

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Nice looking airport younghappy


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Hey, here are some pictures of my newest airport, Lakeside City Centre/Ashbury Fields Airport:

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