Jayo & BLAM and also BAT

[jayo 44]

Jayo's BLAM BATs

Selsdon Rd flats	Some wierdo texture problem.Will fix.
Fenchurch street Station	Starting facade
64 buckingham Gate	Re-doing(soon)
Dunraven	Abandoned
150 leadenhall street	Early stages
60's house	Had an unknown problem that know one could fix(The BATing was terrible aswell.

This is a little render of some flats on Selsdon Rd in West Norwood,London.An old favourite-It has taken me four trys to get this right and now i have There is ALOT of detail on the BAT-Most of it is not quite visible.

[patriots_1228 51]

ANOTHER thread??

good start, although, for the not visible tiny details, you can always make them a bit larger so they can be seen.

[jayo 44]

Heres something i'm working on-All i need to do is nightlights,but i have to learn them first - It should be ready soon-Although i'm going on holiday for a week soon,so i'll be away

[Cleaner475 150]

Looks like a good start Jayo, simple but good buildings,

Richard

[JakeMD 107]

Nightlights are easy, just use the prefix nite_ for any nitemaps, and use the prefix nitelite_ for any actual lights you set up.

[patriots_1228 51]

or just call the nitewindows 'nitewindow(number)' or 'nitelite(number)'

[jayo 44]

Heres a little BAT i made of a little house:

This will be my first realese(hopefully)

It is going to be a 60's house(with a nasty concrete texture)like many other 60's buildings around the UK.

Heres a little teaser

Any ideas for roof junk?

[jacqulina 162]

great progress

[jayo 44]

An update on the flats.

Done alot on this-I'll have to texture and nightlight soon-But i won't do it for maybe a day as i need to do a lot for someone

[WeekendCityPlanner 19]

For the retro home, maybe you should have a chimney (exhaust outlet, whatever)of sorts, like those made of metal.

[jayo 44]

I've started work on 64 Buckingham gate again  .Here is the real thing;It as accurate as i could get it.

Eventually it will sit on a 2 x 2 lot.Its a midrise office block in Westminister,London.

I only need to make another wall of the office and then its all down to cloning all the way through to when i put the roof on and add the floors  -I expect it'll be ready to export in about two weeks max & then that leaves the problem off getting someone to render it.

Oh and ignore the illusions that each window is a different size;its just a glitch

It was all done on array.

[Jasoncw 11,841]

I think that you need to look closer at the proportions of the details on the real building. How tall are the windows compared to how wide they are? How many floors are there? Are some floors taller than other floors? How tall are the spandrels (the parts in between the windows, where the floors are) compared to how wide they are? Are some columns different thicknesses? Exactly what is the shape of the columns (are they rectangles, or are they more complex than that?).

Modern buildings like this are deceptively simple. You will have to tweak it a lot, or even restart modeling several times before it's ready to array. And then while you're arraying it, you need to notice if some floors are higher than others, or if there are any other subtle differences between the floors.

[Gn_leugim 858]

I agree with Jasoncw.. but anyway.. nice start

[patriots_1228 51]

why cant you render it? all you do is hit "reset Lights and Cameras" then "refit Lods" then set the export quality to "medium" and hit "export". If you can use the BAT, i'm sure you can follow those 4 steps. Buckingham looks nice, if you want to make it more realistic, the third lines in from the left and from the right, and the middle line are a little bit larger then the rest. Thats not really necessary, but its somthing I noticed in the emporis pic. Are your windows transparent? if so you should add some of those shades in that emporis pic, that would look good.

[jayo 44]

Thanks jasoncw,Gn_leugim & patriots for the help  You guys pointed out some obvious flaws in my BAT that i didn't even notice at the time I fixed them.The spandrels are fixed.I heightened the top floor.etc.etc;I also added some blinds like patriots suggested.Although, remmember this is preview render is on thr low setting so the blinds don't appear that great

Oh & patriots,the reason i can't render is i don't have the texture fix,or rather i can't.Theres no GMAX folder in C: drive of my computer so i can't save it anywhere(is there any other way i can access it[like if i can access it by opening the BAT/GMAX.Really pisses me off(excuse my french),now that i have to find someone to render my BATs;and by the way patriots,my windows are transparent

[EDIT]Oh,and by the way-how do suggest i clone the walls because when i clone them my computer slows and i can't put them in the right place if you know what i mean,well i hope you do Do you think i should select the objects on the wall seperately and move them seperately?

[Jasoncw 11,841]

If you're using Gmax, then you don't need that ground plane, it's only increasing your render times.  If you want something so that you can see your windows, then model in some temporary floors.

It looks like overall, the proportions of your windows is too fat (they could either be too wide, or not tall enough). Your spandrels are better but still are too short looking. Remember that looking through SC4's camera, the building will look squashed, so you'll want to scale all of your vertical dimensions by 133%.

The concrete (?) in the middle of the building is a very flat and clean color, and it is quite a bit lighter than the walls.

I don't really think that wall should be causing Gmax to lag so much. You might have modeled it inefficiently. Make sure that Your objects only have as many polygons as is needed (look at the objects in wireframe mode). You might need to remodel them. If they're modeled fine, then once you're done tweaking the modeling, right click one of the objects, and convert it into an editable polygon. Then, on the right menu, find the attach button, and go and attach all of those black pieces together. You'll now have a single object which is your wall. You can now move the entire wall as one object, and as a whole your scene should lag less. If you need to move parts within the wall, you'll have to go in and edit it, kind of like editing a spline. And remember if you want to clone something, you can select it, hold shift, and then move it, and it will clone the piece.

If it's still lagging too much, then yeah you'll probably need to do it all separately. You should be saving frequently, and with the "increment on save" feature on (check out the BAT Mega FAQ about file corruption), and this way you'll have backups in case a technique you tried didn't work very well.

[jayo 44]

Thanks jason

Well i guess i'll get to work on the spandrels now-I'm making a knew texture for the middle part of the building-Its not actually supposed to be concrete,but i'll fix that. And i'll try the things you suggest.

I model the plane because i think it looks better,but i obviously won't export it with that

[patriots_1228 51]

Nice Work. Don't use clone, use array, its quicker.

[Gn_leugim 858]

looking good =)

[jayo 44]

Thanks guys

 Here what i've done while my internet went down for a day

[toxicpiano 125]

excellent beans

[Gn_leugim 858]

wooooooowww.. excellent building =)

[Jazzmaster 716]

Originally posted by: jayo bump*

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Wasn't it still on the first page though?  Bumping is against the rules but anyhow...

Good building so far, but the roof junk needs work; I can tell it's just textured boxes and cylinders from here.  You might wanna add fans, vents etc.  And just so I'm clear, where's the entrance?  You might wanna add interior details, especially if you're going to make interior lighting.  Other than that, keep it up!

[Gn_leugim 858]

and btw.. how big is it? 3x3? Will you make it growable?

[jayo 44]

Quick replies.

I'm busy doing the roof junk.

Toxicpiano: Thank you very much

Gn_leugim: Thanks  Its 2x2 and yes it'll be growable(not too sure about the stats yet though.

Yoshiisland:I've sent you a pm &.. I might make interior details.I need too visit the building so i can take some snaps of the base(I couldn't find any pics on the net )

[EDIT]I'm going down to Buckingham Gate today to take some pics of the base on my digi-cam.

I'm also going down to Fenchurch street station to take some pics.(I'll be making this[in its current state;not the way Ill Tonkso modeled his.Now its got an office development on it like most termini in London.

[ianpaschal 77]

yeah, it definitely needs a base, since right now it looks like it grew out of the ground. very nice otherwise and good attention to details with the rails around the roof edge.

[Gn_leugim 858]

great then..you may count 1 dl from me ;p