Today: Terrorist Attack at Glasgow Airport

[Boggy1 45]

Within the last few minutes, a Cherokee Jeep, on fire, drove into the Glasgow terminal building.

Eyewitnesses report there were two Asian occupants; one on fire. The men are reported to have fought with police.

There are conflicting reports that the Jeep collided with another car before driving into the building, and that the Jeep drove in on purpose.

A witness states that a man was seen removing gas cylinders from the car before the fire.

The airport has been closed and evacuated, and all flights have been suspended.

It may be a coincidence, but the Queen is currently in the nearby city of Edinburgh, and this news also comes a day after two car-based bombs were discovered in London.

An eyewitness reports; "The two men were obviously trying to do serious damage [...] it was delibrate, everyone there can tell you that [...] it was no accident, it was an attack."

The reaction from all those present was to "Restrain, not help". One eyewitness attempted to knock out one of the Asian men.

Four people have now been arrested and detained.

[hamsterTK 93]

Holy crap

given that the "bombs" in those other cars were pretty pathetic as far as bombs go, I wonder if this was their real purpose, to blow up and burn as part of a car going into a building?

[Boggy1 45]

Eyewitnesses now report that the Jeep was driven into the main doors of the terminal deliberately, with a barracade blocking them from crushing up to 200 people in the Terminal itself.

The men apparently, once the car set alight, threw petrol and gas onto the car to strenghten the fire. One of the men set himself on fire and ran through the Terminal building, before being held down by members of the public.

News agencies are reporting that it is likely to be connected to the car bombs in London yesterday.

At least two people have been injured, including one of the Asian men, who was reported to be "Seriously burned"

[toxicpiano 125]

Apparently it took four police to restrain the bloke on fire. It was a really amateur attempt by the looks of it though.

[JanYpe 17]

Wow, another not-so-smart bomb for the UK. Good thing they couldn't get into the terminal itself.

[Gridlock 9]

This is terrible ,its our own faults , we brought this upon ourselves , however i am patriotic to my country and its actions ,do we wait another 10 years until they start to detonate small nuclear devices or what , the present situation in the UK is crazy and worsens by the day .Next it could be some super virus they discover anything could happen . Again im trying not to get into politics but this needs to be resolved by our goverments one way or the other as they brought this upon us.

[Meg 368]

I imagine it would be difficult to restrain someone on fire who didn't want to be restrained.  

I find myself to be highly annoyed at the news channels.  I was actually watching CNN Headline News when I read Boggy's original message starting this thread.   He was much more informative than they were, seeing as how they weren't mentioning it.    

CNN and Fox news are both talking about it non-stop.  Of course, is they don't yet know enough to say much of anything in detail.   CNN has some expert who is carrying on about what might be happening.  Fox is tapping into Sky News, which is at least talking to eyewitnesses.

When things like this happen, they fixate on it for hours before they know many details and, later, when they do know more details, it gets a couple of sentences.  That seems skewed to me.  Not to mention the weirdness of getting better news from a website about a computer game.  (and, no, I am in no way criticizing Boggy for starting the thread.)

Anyway, the good news here seems to be that no one else was hurt,  This could have been much worse.

[Boggy1 45]

SkiGeek: I was actually switching between BBC News 24, CNN, and SkyNews. I noticed almost straight away than the information being reported by CNN was terribly out of date already, and had very confusing and contradicting information.

Of course, both SkyNews and BBC News 24 are British News Services, so their information sources would probably be more than CNN. But I find it ironic that CNN was reporting the explosion on their World News, and actually is mainly reporting on US Airports, and the increased security.

One second thing I've noticed while channel-switching, is that the BBC News 24, SkyNews, Five News, and others, are reporting the bombing calmly and collectedly, in the sterotypical BBC Accent. Contrast to CNN; where they obviously do not have much information, and are speculating on the causes. It is not very informative.

And thankyou for the compliment.

COBRA is now in session yet again; the second time in 30 hours. (COBRA is our equivelent of DEFCON or FEMA)

It is unknown at this point if the Security Threat Level will be increased from SEVERE to CRITICAL.

I feel sorry for our new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown. He has been in power for three days, and has had to deal with two Security meetings, a terrorist plot in London, and this likely terrorist attack in Glasgow, and the severe flooding in many many parts of England.

Something that should also be mentioned is that most schools in Scotland will have broken up for the Summer Holidays yesterday, therefore the airport was full of children and families flying off on an early holiday.

Another update; the Asian men did have Molotov C.ocktails and/or Petrol Bombs. They also rammed the car twice, attempting to get into the main terminal area. It is highly likely that it was a failed suicide terrorist attack.

More Updates: The National Emergancy Broadcast System has been activated, as the Government and emergancy forces are expecting severe disruptions in the next 48 hours. All airports in Scotland have been closed, as has Newcastle airport.

[GreekMan 246]

wow this is getting serous

no attacks in the US sine 9/11

our cops are good

[LarksTonguesInAspic 28]

To say that "we brought this on ourselves" is crap. You can't please everyone; blame terrorism on terrorists. Then kill them all.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Boggy1 

I feel sorry for our new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown. He has been in power for three days, and has had to deal with two Security meetings, a terrorist plot in London, and this likely terrorist attack in Glasgow, and the severe flooding in many many parts of England.quote>

 

He is certainly having a rough first week in office.  I don't understand the timing of doing plots and attacks now.   What are they trying to do, convince him that Blair was right about the dangers?

Maybe you can tell me something, Boggy, since I can't tell from the idiotic coverage I'm getting: is that vehicle still on fire?  and how much of the airport building has been burned?  They have been showing the same burning vehicle for over an hour now.  Is it because they have nothing else to show or because the fire is still going?

[Boggy1 45]

The vehicle is no longer on fire; it was put out very fast. The front of the Terminal looks badly damaged, with obvious explosion damage at the top and sides, and scorch marks all around. The Terminal will be out of action for a good while.

Here is an image of the Jeep in question. The top part above the Jeep - the overhang, some parts have been destroyed.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Boggy1 

The vehicle is no longer on fire; it was put out very fast. quote>

 

You would never know that, based on what is being shown here.

It's difficult to tell if a film of something on fire is being looped but logic would indicate that the fire can't be going on as long as it looks, even if they are claiming the tape is "NEW".

There are times I just want to slap these people.  They broadcast every silly detail about Paris Hilton's stay in jail but I have to ask you to get information about something like this.

[JanYpe 17]

If the fire damage is limited to the material damage on the outside then the security measures around the building worked like they were supposed to.

This attack sounds like much more of an improvised, spur of the moment thing than those attempted bombings in London. It doesn't take a lot of effort or planning to slap together a few molotovs and gather some cans of petrol. I wonder if this means that both London and this are part of the same amateurish plan or that they are separate.

COBRA is now in session yet again; the second time in 30 hours. (COBRA is our equivelent of DEFCON or FEMA)quote>

The UK is clearly working with the superior acronym. Seems Brown is getting a bit of a trial by fire, for lack of a better expression.

[Odainsaker 2,134]

24-hour cable news always skews an event as their format needs to fill time with the hot story. Furthermore, looping tapes of "breaking news" can have their truly surreal and spooky moments. As the second hijacked plane approaching the World Trade Center entered the view of the live on-scene news cameras, I remember the studio news commentators asking their technical staff whether we were watching a looped tape of the first plane. The reality of what then happened before our eyes on live television and its greater meaning stunned everyone, including myself, into shocked silence. I can barely tolerate watching "United 93," and though I happened to have the recorders going at the time of the 9/11 attacks, I can't summon the desire to rewatch them. Though the UK has persevered through a continuing terror, we can at least be thankful that they have not suffered a similar scope and scale of calamity.

[Gridlock 9]

Originally posted by: manticorefan

To say that "we brought this on ourselves" is crap. You can't please everyone; blame terrorism on terrorists. Then kill them all.

quote>

Er excuse me , but watching my family get slaughtered over something that didnt concern them would possibly drive me to terrorism , they dont sucide take there own life for fun,some are crazy some are victims themselves they have serious issues you cannot fratanise with people in this way , and since we been fratanising with these nations since the crusades i do think we have brought it upon ourselves the koran was written during the time of the crusades when knights used to go on crusade to slaughter anyone that wasnt christian , and ask questions later,it stems from a 1000 years of history . And that statement about kill them all , maybe that is the answer maybe we do need a ww4( oops it seemed i missed ww3 , wonder where i was when they had 3 ) to sort this once and for all . But maybe the is another way also. again its only my opinion which is probably worth much less than yours.Our govermant should say the next terrorist attack , there country of origin gets nuked return to 17th century ways of dealing with other incomplient nations. You cant just kill all terrorist because its someones, brother , father , sister or mother , and family comes first so it evolves the next genaration of terrorists,its born into them, you must wipe out the nation or do a deal.

i personaly was trying to aviod remarks as extreme as yours.

[toxicpiano 125]

Now, now boggy why do you feel sorry for Brown? After all he voted for the Iraq war, and that is one of the main causes of this. And I agree with mr Gridlock about the ridiculous comments made by manticorefan.

[Boggy1 45]

Odainsaker: Actually, since the 60's, up until the mid-90's, the UK has had a major IRA terrorist attack every single year; often more than four times a year. Thats about 30 whole years of a continuued terrorist presence.

And of course, we suffered the Blitz, which in essance was a terrorist attack. Devestated nearly ever single city in the entire country.

[patriots_1228 51]

lets pray there are no more attacks tomorrow. rough week for britain.

[clindhartsen 5]

Man, I'd have to agree with those here who are saying the coverage is kind of deceiving, I mean, they kept showing different angles and whatnot of the car on fire and loop it continuously. The main issue with our coverage in the US is I wonder if it would be better if FNC just simulcasted Sky News and CNN simulcasted CNNi?

On the larger issue, there has to be a larger plan against this whole rise of radical Islam and assorted other assorted groups of Terrorists then just they bomb us, we bomb them! Where does that leave us? That leaves us with them being able to enable more people to be pushed towards attacking nations around the world and continues the current problem we're already in. If anything, I don't have an answer, but I don't think treating Arabs and alike people like they are all criminals helps.

Returning to the main story, at least there hasn't been any real mention of injuries due to the event other than the people who did the attack themselves. Ending this, I think the Europeans know what they are doing and hopefully this will be the last of this current string, but one can only hope.

**Breaking: Britain raises Security Alert Level to highest rating of "Critical" (MSNBC, Associated Press)

***Breaking: US Airports and other locations increasing security at current time (FOX News)

[Boggy1 45]

I was wondering when they were going to raise the Threat Level. The last time it was at CRITICAL (Attcks imminant) was in August 2006, but it has been at SEVERE (Attacks likely) for the past year.

A critical level means major disruption at all airports and public transport hubs.

Also, a huge police presence in major urban areas.

toxicpiano: I feel sorry for Brown because I, for one, would not like to deal with all this within three days of coming into Office. Also, there is a chance that I would be assasinated...so..yeah.

[JanYpe 17]

Originally posted by: Gridlock fratanisequote>

I'm just a dirty foreigner, would you mind explaining what you meant by this?

the koran was written during the time of the crusades when knights used to go on crusade to slaughter anyone that wasnt christian , and ask questions later,it stems from a 1000 years of history .quote>

No. The Quran was written ( /handed down by the angel Gabriel, believe what you want) around 620 (AD), and the first crusade didn't take place until 1095. The Quran sparked a series of campaigns during which several Muslim armies conquered Arabia, the Middle-East, the North-African coast and Spain. The Muslim advance into Europe stopped in 732 after the battle of Tours. The first crusade started mainly to recapture what the Christians considered holy land (Jerusalem etc.) and to assist the Byzantine empire. (They were getting a little antsy over all the conquering the Seljuks were doing in Turkey.)

:edit:

This didn't register at first:

you must wipe out the nation or do a deal.quote>

That's a very strange conclusion to reach. There isn't a nation in the world that consists solely of evil terrorists. They're called extremists for a reason.

[offgreen 1]

Originally posted by: manticorefan

To say that "we brought this on ourselves" is crap. You can't please everyone; blame terrorism on terrorists. Then kill them all.

quote>

I do blame the terrorists, as we should.

Originally posted by: manticorefan

and since we been fratanising with these nations since the crusades i do think we have brought it upon ourselves the koran was written during the time of the crusades when knights used to go on crusade to slaughter anyone that wasnt christian

quote>

You bring up the crusades as an act of Christian "aggression" I assume. What about the moors invading France a three hundred years prior? The koran was written in 600s, not the 1100s. And who did the Muslims take that land from in the first place? I don't we can play that game.

Okay. So we should idly sit back and just let hundreds of innocents die do to terrorist attack because we might upset their brother in law who likely doesn't share the same radical ideology as them. And yes, lets remember most of these attacks are Muslims killing Muslims (Iraq, Indonesia for example). As for killing them all. Who knows, maybe they'll just go away.

[clindhartsen 5]

Continuing Developments........

*Britain police : One of two suspects arrested have died, died en route to hospital (CNN)

*White House: TSA has raised alertness level at U.S. Airports (MSNBC)

[Boggy1 45]

Guys, don't get too political here. We don't want or need any flaming of other members. Your bordering on the line offensive at the moment.

There are is now good video of the coverage here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6250000/newsid_6257300?redirect=6257308.stm&news=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1

That is a live broadcast of BBC News 24. It really shows the extent of the fire. The pictures don't to justice to how much chaos there must have been.

[toxicpiano 125]

Originally posted by: clindhartsen

***Breaking: US Airports and other locations increasing security at current time (FOX News)quote>

To be quite honest I have no idea how they could raise it any higher. Homeland Security are already agressive enough to non Americans.

[Easy Bakes 253]

Wow

at least this seems to be a failed attempt.

[Hanson784 165]

It's been a terrible week for the UK. I heard about this through Yahoo news when I was checking my email this morning and sources for them wrote it was not a matter of national security. It seems now unfortunately they're wrong.

I also heard the incident in the London yesterday was due to Salmon Rushdie being knighted (for all who don't know he's the author of this book which nearly got him killed). Is that true?

Let's hope there are no attacks anywhere else for a while.

[Boggy1 45]

Hanson784: It has been publically stated that the Muslim extreamists want Salmon Rushdie beheaded. Litrally. They want him dead, as he is going agaisnt the word of Allah.

[SystemUK 0]

Thankfully, this appears to be a very amatuerish attempt with no deaths and just several injuries.

We must carry on as normal, these 'people' have had there fun. Show them who has come out better, closer, stronger. Show them that whatever they do, they will never win, they will never put us down.

We lived through the IRA, we won; we are living through this, we will win.

Originally posted by: toxicpiano Now, now boggy why do you feel sorry for Brown? After all he voted for the Iraq war, and that is one of the main causes of this. And I agree with mr Gridlock about the ridiculous comments made by manticorefan.quote>

 

There was a growing Islamic threat a good few years before 9/11.

Grodlock, why are you sympathising with the terrorists? Sure, they are someones parent, son, spouse or sibling but so are the people they are killing, the ones you don't have a choice. Terrorist is just  a fancy name for cold blooded MURDERER.

So far:

Britian 3

Terrorists 0