NEBB BAT thread

[lrfox 2]

Patriots- this is leaps and bounds better than the first try. i think the texture is a LITTLE too blue, but only in need of some minor tweaking. you're improvement is incredible.

I have to agree with Scotty, it does look a little too short. i understand that the real one looks sort of short but it's actually only because it's sitting right in the prudential center's shadow. i'm pretty sure it's actually one of the ten tallest in boston. Also, the game squishes buildings even more. nice work though it looks great.

[patriots_1228 51]

actually the real building is 160 somthing, my model is about 170, and after the base it will probably be 190, which should make it look about the right height ingame.

[patriots_1228 51]

the opacity on the texture is now 60(from 50) and the color is a bit darker. im probably going to start the frames/base unless you can find somthing to fix.

[franky_83 8]

Nice work everyone. 60 State is finished, well almost. I finished everything I could see. The base is still untouched. That is due to the lack of resources available online and I don't have the time to fly to Boston to take pictures. So I put this project on hold for now until I come up with something to go from.

[patriots_1228 51]

did u try windows live maps?? Im going to try and get you some pics too.

[franky_83 8]

Thanks Patriots...that'd help greatly. Never heard of windows live maps before.

[patriots_1228 51]

heres an okay pic of the front
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=521197


thats all i could get today sorry.

[franky_83 8]

Thanks, yeah I've already scoured the photos from that site, which is actually how I got the shape of the building.

[Jasoncw 11,841]

Patroits, that's turning out really good so far.  When you started this thread a few months ago I would have never thought you would progress to this point so fast.

Do you plan on modeling the inside of the building?  If you don't, then make the glass completely opaque.  The translucency of the glass adds another factor in when you're trying to make a good glass texture.  All of my buildings but one (one of my earliest) use opaque glass.

[patriots_1228 51]

thanks, i dont plan on doing the inside, but by completely opaque do you mean set opacity to 0 or 100?

[Jasoncw 11,841]

Opaque means that you can't see through it, Transparent means that you can see through it, and translucent means somewhere in between, so have the opacity set to 100%. 

[patriots_1228 51]

k thanks

[patriots_1228 51]

im working on the window frames, update by the end of the weekend if it goes as well as it has started.

[scotty222 549]

Patriots - ill wait till its nearly finished but i need to talk to you about 111

ive decide i need to do somethin on hancok or it will be held up 4ever

ive basically done the roof and all i need to do now is the lights

im thinkin about the cloud texture and im not sure if i should keep it

i personally like it but i can see people making a fuss over it

the fussy people can have the dark one though because thats not cloudy

also i need input on the bits of the base shown in the pic and waht to do about

with this (photos), ive tried windows live its not that good for this part

please give some input i really need it

[patriots_1228 51]

you dont have to wait till its finished blurt it out.

about the hancawk base. maybe you could ask someone who lives in boston to take you a pic.

[scotty222 549]

i was just going to say before you do the final render do a low quality one and see how the glass texture looks in game

apart from that its pretty great

[Yoman3 5]

With out a doubt your best building so far, I;d lighten the textures a bit though to match the color in real life.

[hydra 4]

Nice work guys this is looksing fine can't wait till it's out.

[patriots_1228 51]

hehe this is from comcast.

"The list, ranked from those reporting the most incidents of road rage to the fewest:

1. Miami

2. New York

3. Boston"

just wait till i get on the road lol.

back on topic, im halfway done with the window frames, i expect to finish sometime this weekend, than i just gotta do the base/lighting/textures.

[patriots_1228 51]

my new guesstimate says friday night i will finish the frames, ill give you a pic when i finish the frames, and then saturday/sunday ill get the shape of the base done, monday-weds ill work on base details, thursday-friday ill do textures and nightlights, and then sat/sun/mon(3 day weekend, memorial day!) Ill work on the finishing touches.

[scotty222 549]

ive not done much recently but tonight and saturday i plan on niteliteing lincoln

and rendering and it should be out next week

[patriots_1228 51]

sounds good that would mean if i can keep on schedule we will have two release next week, possibly a third if franky is able to complete 60 state street.

[scotty222 549]

4 if i can be bothered with hancok

[patriots_1228 51]

scotty-sounds good to me lol

 i finished the frames, they need some tidying up, like some are too far from the window, or dont go high enough.

I had to break this up into two pics, i couldnt get the whole thing to fit on my screen.

[Jasoncw 11,841]

To combine them, copy and paste them into the same file in Photoshop of GIMP or whatever you use.  To line them up, use the move tool, and use the arrow keys on your keyboard to nudge them together until they line up.

To make the window frames, and everything else you made with splines, change the # of sides for the spline to 4, and then change the angle to 45.  This should make them square, instead of round.

Yeah, some of them are really messed up.  It saves time to just be more accurate from the beginning, instead of making it and then fixing it.  In general the frames are looking good, just make sure everything lines up that needs to.

I'd think about reworking the lines on the top roof.  I think those are supposed to be tracks for window washers in real life, so I'd make them skinnier, and closer together.  I'd also make the middle parts shorter than the track parts, to reinforce the trackness of it.

[scotty222 549]

That looks amazing even though it took a while the frames look great

apart from the measurements as you said

its time to show some stuff from lincoln

Day shot

as for nite time i decided not to do the real lights as i cant have 2 different coloured nitelites (i think?)

and i thought my way was quite cool

all ive got to do is the roof and i will render tonight

[patriots_1228 51]

you can have two nitelites, just set up a light thing, name it niteSpot(or wutever type of light you used), then select the color. next hit excluded, and exclude everything but wut you want to light up. that should work, if it doesnt, ask someone smarter than me lol.

jasoncw-yea the problem is i had only 2 minutes, so i couldnt make a real mosiac, by the track you mean that thing that kind of looks like a ladder going around the roof top? i also need to fixed the part that goes in towards the window, i got that right the first time but i forget what i did. o and i dont get the part about the splines and 45 degree angles.

so im going to start the base and then once i understand jasons comment about the frames ill fix that, and the track too.

[scotty222 549]

Thanks for that but ive started the final high quality render so ill just keep my made up ones

[patriots_1228 51]

oo high quality. good luck. that should finish in what, 4 hours? lol

you want me to mod it and add jobs or can you do that?

[scotty222 549]

ive better go to bed now anyway so ill just let it render when i sleep

as for the jobs id better learn for myself with more releases coming soon