Dis you see the Light???

[Evil_Someone 1]

this is a wierd topic!

have you ever been close to death???

is it true when you are, that you see the bright white light and that your entire life flashes trough your head???

i am just wondering since i have never had that experience!

how was it, did you feel some kind of pleasure, or was it just big pain???

[Joesocwork 4]

I had a heart attack like experience called a ventricular tachycardia a couple of years ago. It was a close call by the time the paramedics came. But probably not close to encounter a "near-death experience", but definitely close enough to help me gain a better appreciation for the temporariness of life here in the physical world.

[DOXXP29 5]

From my experience, no. It was more like an out of body experience where I was watching myself lie on the table and he doctors operating on me. That it wasn't a dream or anything was proved true when weeks later, after I was out of the coma, I recognized one of the doctors. (had never seen him before- in the normal sense, anyway.) I discussed with him what he was doing and what was going on at the time and he verified it. All of my vitals, all the monitors, all the medical staff said I was dead. Obviously, I was revived (I'm not a ghost writer) : ) Another occasion I saw vivid colours, hallucinogenic-like and felt I was travelling away from my self. Maybe substitute my colours for another person's light and the phenomenon would be similar. Though I tend to think the "white light" is more of a Hollywood phenomenon and something preachers tend to push sometimes. Glad you're here, Joesocwork!

[your_adress_here 11]

Never happened to me.

[beebs 129]

I think the closest I've ever been to dying was when a van nearly hit me riding my bike... it was travelling at like 90 KPH... missed my back tire by like a half a foot. Needless to say, I didn't cross that road for a loong time. Never actually had any operations or any major accidents, so I can't say any near death experiences have come from me.

[BlondeTwiggy 43]

no near-death experiences here thankfully... at least none that I can think of lol... But, something that does remind me of how short life is, is my friend, who had a heart defect when she was born or something, she died a few months ago... and it was totally unexpected.  Shes the same age as me... so to me that was kind of scary, like if she can die at this age, I can too.

doxxp29 that is very interesting

[Simen 1]

hm, thats really interesting, dox... makes me think about out of body experiences(Ive always thought of em as a plausible fact, but that kinda supports the entire idea of the soul being separate from the body

[hym 358]

Originally posted by: Joesocwork I had a heart attack like experience called a ventricular tachycardia a couple of years ago. It was a close call by the time the paramedics came. But probably not close to encounter a "near-death experience", but definitely close enough to help me gain a better appreciation for the temporariness of life here in the physical world.quote>

 

I would agree.  It brings life back into focus and reminds you just how short your life really is.  I speak from personal experience on that.

[hamsterTK 93]

I read once that out of body experiences might be caused by the brain releasing chemicals, etc...something like that

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Simen hm, thats really interesting, dox... makes me think about out of body experiences(Ive always thought of em as a plausible fact, but that kinda supports the entire idea of the soul being separate from the bodyquote>

 

I have believed the soul was a separate thing from the body ever since my first out of body experience when I was six.  It was a sponteneous event, nothing life threatening happening at all.  I spent years looking for science classes or the church school classes to explain it.  They never did, which is why I concluded that there is truth outside of the accepted parameters of both science and religion.

But I digress a bit, the topic is near death experiences and seeing the "light".   So far, I have not had a near death experience so I can't say what it's like.

[Easy Bakes 253]

Iv been near death several times during surgurys and abnorrmal heart Rhythms episodes. but never had any wierd visions or such.

I would either fall unconsious/get put under and wake up again several hours or days( In the case of my transplant) later with no memmory of what occured.

No lights no visions of anything realy just like sleeping but no dreams.

[Bach2Baroque 168]

Interesting,

I was hit by a car when i was 9, i don't know how fast it was going, all i remember is that it hurts and lots of blood.

I did not go unconscious, and i had minor injuries, just a few stitches here & there. The car was fine too =\

However, my brother got knocked out by a door few years ago, he woke up 40 minutes later. He said he felt like he went through a worm-hole, seeing plasma lights and blinking stuff.

I still did not believe him.

[Kippis05 2]

I still have an experience I can't explain...

It was Christmas Eve when I was 11, and the family was gathered around the table in the kitchen, and I went outside to drop off a bottle of wine at a neighbor's house, kind of like a last minute gift. I stepped down from the front stoop, and I guess from what my parents told me I had slipped on a patch of black ice... While I was unconcious, I felt like I was floating on air, in this bright light or something. I woke up in a hospital bed 12 hours or so later, and overheard the doctor saying that I was lucky to be alive. I got 32 stiches in the top of my head, and other than a few cuts and bruises, I was fine.

Weird I know, but it made me appreciate life alot more, how fragile it is, and how fast it can be taken away from you.

Signed

Good Ol' Kippis

[DOXXP29 5]

Desz, the experience your brother described could be used to describe the second experience that I noted above. Having been there, I believe him. Also, regarding OBEs, having experienced them before and after, my NDE was definitely different, though similar in some regards. Hamster, I think the release of chemicals may have something to do with OBEs, but my own personal thoughts and experiences lead me to conclude that it has more to do with the acceleration or initiation. The chemical correlation has merit since I've seen an effect on them when taking various drugs that affect brain chemestry. (SSRIs, opiates have an interesting effect. Paxil, for example, tinges the whole experience with a bluish tint.) Maybe someone should start a thread on OBEs. Be interesting to compare notes with those that are comfortable sharing their experiences. I've found that many, for whatever reason, are not.

[Evil_Someone 1]

ok, this is very interesting; i have once had similar experience but it was faaaar from death(ok maybe not): i once fell from 2 story house, i was unconcious for about 2 mins, and i remember that i saw the bright grey color with some wierd black dots - thats why i asked did you see the light well after i woke up i had broken arm, 2 broken fingers(on the same arm) and my brother calling an ambulance, it was scary.

it was nothing like close-to-death-experience and thats why i said above that i have never had that experience(well i havent)

[BurroDiablo 222]

I was told by some guy who almost drowned that it was the most peaceful experience of his life (or near death)... when the Medics rescued him and got him to breathe again, he was really, really annoyed with them.

I almost drowned too... my Canoe capsized in some rapids and I couldn't get free. I dunno, but It definatley was NOT the most peaceful experience of my life! Its frigging petrifying! I manged to get loose, but I lost my shoes in the process... and my ability to get in a canoe.

[hamsterTK 93]

but It definatley was NOT the most peaceful experience of my life! Its frigging petrifying!quote>

Happened to me once too(though it happened to me in a pool when I was 8 or 9 before I really knew how to swim( im a strong swimmer now)

Not fun. Maybe if you have no chance(ie vinny gave you cement shoes) you could enjoy the trip to the bottom, but i was too interested in trying to get to the surface....Really I dont see how dieing in any accidental way could be peaceful. Maybe carbon monoxide poisoning or something that puts you to sleep or knocks you out before it kills you.

Never been knocked out before. I have really hurt my cousin TWICE(on accident of course). I dunno, I guess because Im reckless and she's clueless, thats a bad combo...

[The Terminator 0]

I had my first Out Of Body experience in 1959 when I was 13. Back than i lived in the Tasker Projects in South Philadelphia. and while i was sleeping i suddenly arose, But my body was laying in my bed, and a silver line connected me back to the body to find my way back, I wandered around the aparntment in this state and eventually down the lobby and into the next high rise. I was in the lobby of the building next door to my own. It was real, felt real, and i am convinced it was real, But I could not interact with anyone in the lobby, there were 3 people there, an old woman, a teenage girl, and a police officer, i tried to talk to each of them, but it was futile. Suddenly i felt myself float back to my body, and I woke up, in my body, in my bed.

It was surreal, but i thought it was cool. As I progressed into my Teens, i had more of these Out Of Body Experiences(OBE). By time i was 16 in 1962 they became such a common occurance that I could control them. I had mastered Astral Projection.

After got back from Prep School in England, i met up with other people who could Astral Project. So every week i would travel up from Philadelphia to Bridgewater, New Jersey. I had encountered other Astral beigns in my OBEs and befriended them. We decided to form a "Leauge" if you will, and we would meet every firday night in the woods. This was late 1963.

We would lay our material bodies down on sleeping bags in the deepest darkest woods of New Jersey, so they would be prepared for our "Re-Entery" as we called it. We chose secluded places as to not avoid attention, so our resting bodies wouldent be mistaken as Corpses. In the early 60s, Bridgewater was desolate small town, not the sprawling exurb we know today, so it was a perfect place to meet up. We met up in a specific part of the woods in Bridgewater called Nosliew Pilf. It was a giant rock formation, with many caves, perfect for hiding our bodies.

We called ourselves the BRIDGEWATER ASTRAL LEAGUE. From September 1963 to December 1964, we would trek the Astral Plane, together. The League was made up of Myself, Millicent Lopez, John Gilch, Pete Ventantoino, Ben Kotch, Maura Corrigan, Franz Nicolay, Lucky Strano, Selma Ercin, Sandra Malak, Ezra Kire and Scott Ercin. All of us were young, being born between 1937 and 1947.

We would fly throught the Astral Plane, and ad eventually covered ground between Newark and Washington DC. We also gained Telekenetic Ability, and we were able to Contol real life objects from inside the astral plane. We had our fun with this, We Stole cars, Made strange objects fly (Dumpsters, Subway Cars, Trees) and caused general mischeif. However by January 1965 the laugue had fallen apart, as most members had Graduated From High School or College or had been Arrested.

I still keep in contact with some members through the Astral Plane, but for the most part, the Bridgewater Astral League will forever live on in our memories and 1960s Teen Folklore passing down to younger generations.

Like The Story???

But Back To reality, If i ever had an OBE, I think it would be the kind of thing what would freak me out, Id probably wake up in panic. But than again, ive never had one, so i cant say.

However, I have had many near death encounters with taxis in Manhattan!

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: The Terminator 

But Back To reality, If i ever had an OBE, I think it would be the kind of thing what would freak me out, Id probably wake up in panic. But than again, ive never had one, so i cant say.

quote>

 

Well, you wouldn't necessarily "wake up" from one.  During my first OBE, I was awake and alert before, during, and after.  and in a public place.  I was rather surprised and baffled that no one else had noticed anything odd.  But I didn't tell anyone for 18 years.  Six year olds didn't have a lot of credibility back then.

[Kevin 101]

Originally posted by: SkiGeek I have believed the soul was a separate thing from the body ever since my first out of body experience when I was six.  It was a sponteneous event, nothing life threatening happening at all.  I spent years looking for science classes or the church school classes to explain it.  They never did, which is why I concluded that there is truth outside of the accepted parameters of both science and religion.quote>

You've totally piqued my interest Ski... unless its too personal I wish you'd go into more detail...

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, if having your heart stopped and being put on a heart-lung machine is close to death, yes I have.  No light.

[Tommy_Vercetti3 3]

Everyday. Enough said.

[Firebird 40]

Well, I've never been extremely close to death. But, I have had something that might qualify as an out of body experience. When I was in my room reading Mr.Cinatit's book for the first time,  I  thought I must have drifted off to sleep for a  second, but then, I was suddenly at my friends house. This completely, and utterly startled me! I tried to get out if it, just like I would normally do to a dream, but, I didn't move. I just stood there, like in some sort of paralysis, watching my friend get a glass of water. Then, suddenly, I was back in my room again. Like nothing had happened. I asked my friend about it the next day, and she confirmed what I had watched her do that night.

Call me crazy.

[Eastwinn 6]

TT, that was just about the coolest story I've ever read.

Anyway: No. Never. No NDE's, no OBE's. None. Na-uh. Na-da. Other various N words with similar 'no' meanings. I haven't even broken a bone. My worst injury was probably when I slit the top of my head open and had to get 4 staples. Or maybe when I was 2-ish, I shot myself in the leg with a staple gun. That pretty much it...

[hamsterTK 93]

nice story

[The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz 27]

I get Deja Vu quite a lot. It's always a feeling that what I'm experiencing has happened before, or that I have (in a backwards kind of way) "remembered" it. I've yet to have conclusive proof that an incident has happened to me before or that it flashed into my head before it happpened, but recently I had an image me getting an essay returned in class. Now, either I was freaking out about how I did, or it'll turn out to be exactly the same as in my image. If that is the case, I'm going to feel VERY weird.

As for NDE's, not really. One time on holiday my brother jumped on my back in the swimming pool and held me under and I was underwater for what felt like ages (probably on about 30 secs), but when you are 9, you don't hold your breath for too long underwater, and also it had been a surprise. When I got out I said to my mum "I could have died!", she said "You could not have died..." She was probably right, when you are 9 you tend to exaggerate things, but at the time I felt like I could have died.

I have had a semi-OBE, but it was totally controlled and was more psychological than anything. We were in Religious Education and our teacher played us this relaxing music and got us too relax and then talked us through somethign similar to an OBE. I kind of floated out of my body, out of the classroom, and upwards, through the universe and too a place I can only decribe as a paradise. It was like a huge hilly area, and there was a lake, and a windmill. It was weird, when he brought us out of it my eyes felt really heavy, like after a deep sleep. I'm not spiritual, but I think something strange happened that day.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: The Terminator (words)quote>

*sigh* don't you love it when he makes crap up like that?

As for me, I can't say I've ever been near death in reality either. I've gotten into deadly situation splenty of times in dreams, though. Generaly the dream just ends right then.

[toxicpiano 125]

Well, if someone hadn't put me in the recovery position yesterday, I would have choked to death on my own vomit. Does that count?

[Meg 368]

I suspect it's difficult to have an OBE when you are unconscious or sedated.

[Mikeaut1 261]

Originally posted by: The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz I get Deja Vu quite a lot. It's always a feeling that what I'm experiencing has happened before, or that I have (in a backwards kind of way) "remembered" it. I've yet to have conclusive proof that an incident has happened to me before or that it flashed into my head before it happpened, but recently I had an image me getting an essay returned in class. Now, either I was freaking out about how I did, or it'll turn out to be exactly the same as in my image. If that is the case, I'm going to feel VERY weird.

As for NDE's, not really. One time on holiday my brother jumped on my back in the swimming pool and held me under and I was underwater for what felt like ages (probably on about 30 secs), but when you are 9, you don't hold your breath for too long underwater, and also it had been a surprise. When I got out I said to my mum "I could have died!", she said "You could not have died..." She was probably right, when you are 9 you tend to exaggerate things, but at the time I felt like I could have died.

I have had a semi-OBE, but it was totally controlled and was more psychological than anything. We were in Religious Education and our teacher played us this relaxing music and got us too relax and then talked us through somethign similar to an OBE. I kind of floated out of my body, out of the classroom, and upwards, through the universe and too a place I can only decribe as a paradise. It was like a huge hilly area, and there was a lake, and a windmill. It was weird, when he brought us out of it my eyes felt really heavy, like after a deep sleep. I'm not spiritual, but I think something strange happened that day.quote>

I get Deja Vus a lot too! It feels like you've already experienced what you're experiencing now, like you dreamt it. It's some freaky stuff!