simmars-forum-threads Workshop - Open Discussion

[AndisArt 2,066]

This is a place for general shoutouts and discussions on the workshop and creation of SimMars.

[Emerikol 0]

Looks extremely interesting to me! With all of the contributed work I have seen here, it looks like only a matter of time before it is all put together with the final touches. Good luck to you guys. If I had the time I would learn how to build this stuff and contribute some work, but I have a wife

Oh and do not be discouraged if it seems that there is not enough feedback from people who might be interested in playing this. Most people only care about the finished product. Build it and they will come!

Jason

[AndisArt 2,066]

Thanks, yeah, I can imagine that too that interest will raise once the next BETA is released.

[nino71 0]

andisart : this sim mars project looks great i use mac so i can't mod any thing but it looks great , good work

[AndisArt 2,066]

Thank you I'm very pleased with the growing contributions of many beautiful BATs and mods.

[AndisArt 2,066]

What does this BAT remind you of? 

It's a model by Outdoorsman05, originally intended to be a terra-forming facility. Later it was discussed to replace the nuclear power plant. 

I'd like to see a a terra-forming facility as a reward, at the same time we need a high capacity power plant. 

What are your thoughts?

[Scyfi 1]

https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?id=17610

I always thought this looked like a nice mars type power plant. Not sure what the rules are about using other peoples stuff. Might need to adjust the rates and such as well.

[Blazerhawk 162]

That looks like a power plant. I would like to see some small terraforming domelike thing on a terraforming facility.

[AndisArt 2,066]

Can you go into detail with that? I havn't done research on terraforming plants yet, the one I know is from the movie Aliens. It's massive though...

[Blazerhawk 162]

Well, what I was thinking is that you would have a pretty large main structure, with an glass-cased dome for experimenting in. The reason I think that's how a terraforming facility should look is because you would probably want to test in a controlled environment first to make sure it works. Since Terraforming involves atmospheric changes you would need some place to simulate what you were doing.

[mad_brain 0]

about farms.. I've been thinking about something like spice harvest of the movie Duna, but like Iron harvest or other mineral

[andries 0]

If you use such domes, you cannot expand your city infinitely, unless you build a new dome, but it sounds realy cool. Besides it will look really nice in the region-view. ( Some large and a lot of smal domes, connected by covered highways... )

And now something else:

I think it is a good idea to have more buildings of the same type! I'm trying to say: It is nice to have the choice between, for example, 3 mayor-houses. Becouse else, you will have the same effect as the 'normal' simcity 4 has now. That ALL city's contain exactly the same buildings. And what is pretty anoying to, is that al the religious buildings are the same. It is not cool to have 3 exactly the same buildings in the region, not even in ONE city!

So maybe its a good idea to create more than one primary school. Than you can build more primary schools in your city without having the copy-effect we al dislike.

[Something_started 5]

hey i can lot and bat a tiny bit. i know enough to maybe to small things like roof junk or space cars but other than that ideas are what i'm good at.

the picture above looks great for something to be launched and go space-bound.

i checked out beta #2 (dos) and it is amazing, i didn't think ya'll got that far, but their is no air port..... which leads me to this idea;

replace Sea Ports with Space Ports, considering there is absolutely not enough liquid water on mars to even be useful, and the water is disabled.

but for the space port i don't know what it might look like really because i haven't thought it out, but here is a picture of what space craft shall look like someday (probably in that time)

or the air port can double as an air port and a space port all in one and just totally remove the darn sea ports.

ps i only tried it out for about an hour so i didn't see everything, also I'm assuming that nothing has been changed about the sea ports, if there has then that is even better yet.

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Also, in my mind, think that the next upcoming buildings be "used" for things like quantom  communications and places with MEGA FRIGGEN HUGE satulite dishes because as of right now thier would be roughly a 8 - 30 minuet delay from Earth to Mars at about 2Mbps so more satulites would be needed then the little tiny bit that i saw on the mod. i think i can maybe draw or lot little tings ( i think i said that already but yeah)

[TimeMaster 4]

Umm...

I have some (er... alot!) ideas! 1st farms should just have a dome built around them.

Ok Power plants. The problem about the magnetic power is that there is no magnetic field on mars!! But you could use the solar wind!!

Nuclear Fusion, Nuclear Fission, Wind (from sandstorms), Solar, Some sort of fossil fuel (like coal... you know), Microwave. Solar wind (Magnetic)

Rewards: Mayor house is a just a martian high wealth building. House of worship is like a martian palace,with towers, multiple small windows... Cemetary is a like a stone pyramid. Except for the entrance it is not protected from martian air. Private is like a large grade school but it has a different roof and a cross on top. Mayors statue is the same in the regular version. Farmers market... Im not sure if it should exist but i would look like a small building with a dome around it. Country Club is the same as it was in the regular version, but there is a dome around it. State fair is the state fair in regular sim city 4 but there is a dome around it. A university looks like a couple of short towers in a circle. There is a park in the middle with a dome around it. Major art museum is a beautiful martian tower, with twisting levels (its like a ground floor but the floor above is tilted). Subspace communications center (you already know this one, so i wont tell you) is like a radio station. Minor league station is a rather flat tower, and it as two windows on either side. Main Library is the large information center right? Magnificent statue is a magnificent statue with a dome. Opera House is hat Cosmic symphony house. Disease research center is like a the one in regular version, except it is taller and has less windows. Tourist Trap is the regular tourist trap but with a dome. Immigration center Provides a boost to residential because people on earth can move to mars through this Also a slight boost to commercial because people (and businesses) can go back to earth too. Convention Center will be like the regular convention center but the mars one will have less windows. Television studio will be called Subspace visual communications center and will look like the new radio station, except larger and a slightly different building. City zoo will be the same as it was in the regular version except there is a dome around the zoo. The resort hotel is also the same thing except there is a dome around it. City Hall is a sort of flat building with smaller towers that climb out from each other. Courthouse Is a flat tower that has a rounded top. It has two windows on each side. The Bureau of Bureaucracy looks like a regular Bureau of B. but there is less windows and a dome over a hole in the middle which contains a park (like the pentagon). Major League Baseball Stadium is like the minor but larger and taller. Movie Studio (called Subspace Movie center) will be like the regular movie studio but it will have a dome. Stock Exhange is like the regular stock exchange but there is less windows and it is taller. Advanced Research Center is like a tall tower with 4 windows on each side. Biology Research Center (requires 100 school grade and 80,000 people) makes farms work better, works as a hospital too. Observatory (requires 2 good public museums and 40,000 people) Provides a eduction, also attracts some High Tech industries. Space Port (New requirement is immigration center required) Looks EXACTLY the same as in regular game.

Well... Heres some sanitation dept ideas and then I'm signing off.

Landfill=Waste Area a barren land that fils up with trash

Recycling center=the trash remanufacturing center (right?)

Waste To Energy Plant=Looks an slightly changed w to e plant. Called Waste burner plant.

See you! People i think ill post again soon.

[TimeMaster 4]

Wow that looks like hmm probably a geothermal power plant! Great a geothermal activity plant that would be cool! But that power plant in your game except its a high p low c power plant. New stats: Power produced: 6000 Mw per month, Bass cost: 14,000 $ Monthly cost: $600 There a new power plant! Thanks for link!!

[TimeMaster 4]

Wow that looks like hmm probably a geothermal power plant! Great a geothermal activity plant that would be cool! But that power plant in your game except its a high p low c power plant. New stats: Power produced: 6000 Mw per month, Bass cost: 14,000 $ Monthly cost: $600 There a new power plant! Thanks for link!!

[TimeMaster 4]

andries has a good idea. like, for elementary school its gray school, brick school, wood school. House of worship is... Church, mosque, synagogue etc. get the idea? This also work well in sim city 5.

[borntoboogie 15]

wow that is a lot of ideas! the best thing to do is to come up with a few sketches of your ideas so that people can try BATting them,. or to try BATting them yourself!

[TimeMaster 4]

thx i need to name and and draw them too. lol

[TimeMaster 4]

how do you get a drawing on? You copy it and paste in your comment ?

[andries 0]

Lol, I had exactly the same problem. I just dumped my drawings on an old website I once deleted, and put a link in my comment. ( See: 'Final Building Style: Utilitarian', in the 'project' part of the simmarsforumstuff. )

[borntoboogie 15]

there are 3 ways you could do it... in fact I'm gonna create a google page for Sim Mars tonight or tomorrow so I'l lkeep you posted. It'll allow us to have an e-mail address specially for simMars and somewhere to host pics etc.

also good for updates on progress!

check back later and all will be revealed! (I hope)

[TimeMaster 4]

Well, I would like someone to draw my ideas, then give them to someone on sim mars to BAT. Heres some power plant stuff:

Available at start: Solar, Nuclear Fission, Geothermal, Microwave, Metal (Burning metals that burn easily)

At HT Industry Population 5,000 Nuclear Fusion becomes available.

At HT Industry Population 40,000 Magnetic becomes available

At Total City Size 60,000 Advanced Wind (Air pressure doesn't matter)

[TimeMaster 4]

When I meant not Tungsten (Which burns at 5540 degrees Celsius)! I meant like Zinc. If that just doesn't sound right you don't need to include it. And there is some air pressure, so Wind [Advanced] Turbine Tech (WATT) would work. Lol, Watt.

Anyway Ice Drilling Facilities (Large & Small) sounds great on Mars! For Water Sanitation Plant, your Water Reprocessing Plant is good. Water Tank is Water Tower.

Your Sanitation needs some work, though. I think not changing landfill would be fine. Biomass Power Plant (Waste-To-Energy Plant) and Waste Remanufacturing Center (Recycling Center) would be great for the sanitation stuff. I think you need to work on what they would really look like on Mars.

_Police_

Your Police Kiosk looks fine, though I suggest you change that radar thing on top. The large and small police stations also have the problem with their antennas. I like deluxe though. That prison is cool too.

_Fire_

The Small & Large Leak and Decompression Station both look fine, but there is something yellow on the tower I think you should change.

Fire Space Port: Specialized Spaceplane that spews Anti Fire & Sealing Powders.

_Education_

I Think both Small & Large Primary Schools look fine, but they need like a darker yellow. The Information & Knowledge Center looks really cool, for the Main Information Center should just be larger, wider, and have a rather thick tower in the center. High School looks great, and I don't recommend any changes as of now. The Large High School looks great too. I think the Mars Settlement Museum is AWESOME! The Observatory will make a fine replacement for the Major Art Museum. I recommend tall towers and a "small park" in the middle for the university. For the college, I recommend a medium sized tower, with four short towers jutting up from the four corners. And last but not least a private school. I would make a small primary school that is black and has a very short tower on the front side.

_Health_

Your Martian Medical Clinic looks fine, but I think you should add CLINIC on top of the spikes on the front side. The Martian Hospital is an amazing piece of work, but I think there is something wrong in the middle that just doesn't look right.

Martian Disease Research Center: I suggest a reddish tower that looks sort of like the Plymouth Center (Advanced Research Center) It also has HOSPITAL on top of it, because they also work as large hospitals. It will be called... Garmuth Center. LOL you pick any name you want.

Rewards: Prepo Inn is replacement for Resort Hotel. Plymouth Center is Advanced Research Center. Garmuth Center is Disease Research Center. Martian Praying House is House or Worship. I think you need more rewards because you only had two.

Also you should have made medium and large sizes in the parks.

Thanks! I liked SimMars but it needs work.

Bye

[TimeMaster 4]

Rewards ( It needs some!)

Mayor's Mansion=Mayor's Mansion Description: A Small High Wealth Building, You will have a choice of which kind of building you want.

House Of Worship=Martian Praying House Description: A very nice palace. Brown, stocky building, with four short towers that jut out from the four corners.

Mayor's Statue=Mayor's Statue Description: Two kinds. One kind is a small park with your statue on top, the other is a plaza with your statue on top.

That's all for now (I'll post later)

[TimeMaster 4]

Another one: Private School

Called Private Grade School

Description: Black Grade School with a small tower in the front

[timcravey 168]

Hey guys, did we ever figure out how to get the pictures into this forum page. I want to show my BATs.

I'm working on low and medium wealth housing, a LM Mosque and 2x2 medium park. Also have two large farms that have a terrible tendency to burn down! Trying to figure out how to make a farm field tile to associate with them - a square-ish mound of dirt (covering an underground grow-room) with solar-panel on top

BTW Love the power plant thing but hate the idea of burning metals - ecologically unsound - couldn't the metals be consumed by converting them into nano-machines that crawl out beneath the surface forming miles long chains that generate electricity by utilizing the changes in temperature from day to night?

[Evillions 552]

I think really everone has abonbaned Simmars now. The major people are Andisrt, and Lynx or pmiller. There is no point now.

[timcravey 168]

I will keep modeling.

Here are my Martian Parks -

[TimeMaster 4]

timcravey: Thanks. Andisart disappeared though. Yeah I know burning metals sounds reallyy weird... but we need some sort of fossil fuel.