Taxes: simoleons taxed per sim and per sim job

[wolfmanbfc 0]

This was a very simple experiment that I didnt see posted in this board, so if it has been done before I will close this thread.

Anyway, the first part of my experiment was to determine how everything is taxed. While I assume the actual calculations use building values, I found that just taking the taxes made and dividing by jobs and population numbers gives consistant results (ie. 0.06$ margin of error) for commercial and industrial.

Residential on the other hand gives significantly different numbers in the move from low density to medium and high density so I will list that seperately.

Anyway, here are the simoleons per job/sim I came up with averaged from my 3 cities in order of zone type:

CS$__: 0.135$

CS$$_: 0.524$

CS$$$: 1.353$

CO$$_: 0.085$

CO$$$: 0.125$

I-A: 0.064$

I-D: 0.202$

I-M: 0.289$

I-H: 0.255$

Low Density

R$__: 0.337$

R$$_: 0.617$

R$$$: 1.000$

Medium-High Density

R$__: 0.070$

R$$_: 0.293$

R$$$: 0.628$

Conclusion: In order to have a balanced budget, a good mix of low, medium and high density residential is needed. In one of my industrial cities I put in some high density and let 24000 low wealth sims move into hi-rises and was only making 1703$ off them at 9% taxes, while in another city with 27000 low wealth sims living in low density I was making 9014$ at 9% taxes.

[AtkinsSJ_ 7]

I reckon this should be stickied, or Omnibused, as it could be useful forb penny-pinchers.

[Bones1 96]

Interesting data. However, I think the results would be better displayed as $ per tile. There's a few things to consider:

1. Generally, low-income buildings have more sims/tile than high-wealth buildings. This means that even though $/sim may be small for R$, the R$ buildings hold more sims than R$$$ buildings, so it balances out a bit.

2. High-wealth buildings cost more to maintain (especially water resources) than low-wealth buildings. So, the higher-income from R$$$ comes at the cost of maintaining more water pumps and parks and stuff like that.

3. Regardless of what zone type is most cost-effective, you need all types for a region to function. So, it's not really practical to concentrate on developing CS$$$ or whatever.

[wolfmanbfc 0]

On your first idea to go by tile. I made an experimental city with six tiles of low density commercial and when those six tiles were used by first CS$ and later, after parks were added, CS$$ both times the $/job result was the same as the numbers above. I didnt go any further into detail than that. I will experiment with various densities tommorrow.

[Facelessman 5]

Somehow you came up with less money for CO $$$ than CS $. You might want to figure out what went wrong there...

[wolfmanbfc 0]

Go into SC4Tool and look at the numbers yourself. CS$ provides more in taxes per job on average than CO$$$.

Speaking of SC4Tool, does anyone know the exact formula for calculating taxes.

[Amorette 0]

With the per-tile calculations, I think it actually does not reflect your budget income levels as well, because while it's true that many low-wealth sims live on a single tile of high-density area, they also drain a lot of your education / health resources (if you are going to build a good city), whose costs are a per-sim thing... so per-sim I think reflects your actual budget income well.

[Bones1 96]

Well, you don't actually have to educate R$ sims, unless you want to boost demand for higher-wealth jobs and thus higher-wealth sims to move in. They don't need the education and health to improve desirability either, since they'll live happily just about anywhere. I think the only thing health does for them is that more of them will go to work (40% if LE=50, 60% if LE=90). That might boost demand for jobs.

[isroza 0]

I have also been experimenting with taxes per sim, So far I find R$ appears to be 1 simolean per job (or commuter), although Agriculture workers (Farmers) seem to be exempt. Thanks for your data. Do you agree with my calculations so far?

[themumofevil 0]

How does the percentage come in?

[newyorkstate 6]

Very good Finding! I don't know how Accurate This is, but This Prooves Very Useful If Accurate!

[urbifex_maximus 0]

I've been playing for years now and only realised those ridiculusly low tax revenues from CO$$/CO$$$ jobs compared to CS-Job-revenue a short while ago.

I'm somewhat proud of my liveable city at relatively low tax rates (7,2% for all residental types, 7.0% for all commercial) without using cheats or money-lots, but i feel a bit conned because the shiny skyscrapers that i'm looking for are all CO wich pay so little taxes.

[Acadi 0]

Yeah.... whywould commercial office be so low? Aren't those 'rich valuable buildings?'

THis isn'tmaking sense to me.

[rob9926 0]

i just wanted to comment on the R$ taxes being 5 times more if on low density zone lol. 27000 sims would take up a lot of room with low density. i think high density would be able to achieve a similiar population effortlessly. the question is can high density handle 5 times more than low density? i think the answer is yes lol. it's an interesting topic nonetheless

[Jasoncw 11,839]

The density of the zone doesn't matter, what matters is the building that is built on it.

[Acadi 0]

Originally posted by: Jasoncw The density of the zone doesn't matter, what matters is the building that is built on it.quote>

 

Is there a way or tool to check the amount of tax a building can bring?

Also, since high-rise bring in less $ per sim, does this mean taxes should be rised in high-density city?