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but still no workers aren't as brave to go to their jobs by walk. ------------------- But then, in a neighborhood this bad, no one has anything to steal! Good work. I'm a fan of grimy, rusty cities.

What is the building on the far right here?

What happened to the Cadillac Tower? That thing looked incredible. So many good ones. The David Broderick tower, the Book Tower, the David Stott building, the Guardian Building, the Buhl Building. The great thing about Detroit is that it has the great buildings, but the skyline is not so imposing that they get lost in it.

I was in law school in Ann Arbor 10 years ago. I recall being surprised by Detroit then, and seriously considered living and working there. I ultimately chose better weather in LA. I will say that some of what I saw in Detroit was shocking, and probably would be to many Americans. But I'm from a sunbelt state. Americans from the sunbelt are used to cities like Houston and Dallas and Atlanta that are throwing up new skyscrapers everywhere and growing daily. For people from cities like that it's unusual to see the "emptied out" cities like St. Louis, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, etc. In Dallas and Houston people keep moving IN. In those rust belt cities people keep moving out. That's why Detroit looks so bad to many Americans. They're just used to cities going the other direction. Yet for all that Detroit is quite a bit more densely populated still than Houston or Dallas or Atlanta. And there are plenty of cities in the SW that are shedding population and dealing with abandonment with the bursting of the housing bubble. There are empty skyscrapers in Miami, too.

I generate my regions with the SCRACC region generator, which leaves them bald and treeless. I've wondered how people get regions that look like this--frankly, it's a work of art. Just beautiful nature. How do you do it?

Interesting Bug: I've rendered dozens of regions in the game before, but just last week, an strange thing started to happen when I rendered them---the regions were filled with mostly water. I rendered the el paso region off the stex and it came out as islands (where the mountain ranges should be). This seemed to coincide with my installation of a terrain modifier. Has this happened to anyone else

I found that one. There was another one, or something like it that you could place on the water/land. It was a reward.

I'm looking for the two piers on the STEX that were malls. One was the CSX pier mall, and I can't remember the name of the other.

Weird request: Does anyone remember the lot on the exchange that included a variety of small cell phone stores, etc.? I need that badly for a city I'm making. Thanks in advance Moved to the STEX forum --beebs

Yeah, I have all of his stuff (it practically builds my city). This was a special set by someone else that had very specialized icons for the landmark menu. They were really cool