budweiserdude23

Here's the thing aside from all the artsy fartsy historical augments. There's not a damn thing this building with a measurable cost effective reason can do given its current sorry state. Beyond that, any functional transit reason, esp. rail system is long gone. No mass transit here. Poor foresight by city leaders years and years ago... If you drove past this hunk every day for years on end you'd get sick of the crock of a beaucracy trying to figure out what to do with it. Historical piece of rot...literally! Another story of coulda, shoulda, woulda.... Move on....holding on to the past and crummy poliltics has kept this city back since the 1960's. Knock the prick down. On another note... "The U.S. Supreme Court not too long ago ruled that a government could seize private residential property through eminent domain and hand it over to another private developer for the express purpose of increase local tax revenue. " This is a scary precident. Anyone ever take a world history class?

You can't go forward without breaking some eggs.... Too much of the city is a an abandoned pile of rubble and ruins. By the way, I work in the city now and get charged city taxes, yet live miles away. In addition, the council affects the rates of my municipal services. If you like ruins, I suggest you move to Rome. They have plenty that are worth looking at. But I pay taxes here and I've had enough. If and when you pay my taxes or live here and pay the taxes, you can then have an opinion on what should stay standing and what should not. One might get the idea I don't like this city but I really do, that's why I still lurk on ST and live in Motown. But people, the economics and blight are justified for this unfortunate but necesssay endeavor. Let's move forward.

The owners don't care. Plain and simple. So much of Detroit is owned by a small number of people. It is what it is. The politics of Detroit are so screwed up that if and when city council ever does vote to do anything it usually gets tied up in the courts and/or goes to the mayors office and gets shot down/vetoed and the back and forth begins with city council members calling each other Shrek. I'm really not kidding on the Shrek matter. The city council is a complete utter sham as it controls and influences municiple services to not only the city but the suburbs, yet the suburbanites who are the majority have no vote as to who is mayor of Detroit or who is in council. Yet, the sad part is the action they finally took is probably the right one. It is so far beyond salvaging that any private investor (esp. in this economy) would go bankrupt trying to refurbish it. Enough of the blight. We'd love to see it restored and/or used for a purpose but it's not going to happen. It would have happened by now. Period. End of Story. Tiger Stadium is another example. 10 years to rip down an unused stadium and it's still 1/4 up. If a preservation society wants to keep a building standing, then a definitive timeframe needs to be set, yet all the crap I spoke of above with the politics of city council vs preserveration allowed this revered stadium to stand to the point where it had become not only an eyesore but a potential lawsuit as it was literally crumbling. Now before you hammer me with bad speak, understand this, I hate city council with a passion and the mayors office is in a shambles and has no real power until a man with a set comes in and does some serious housecleaning. But this is the right move. There is no saving it. That station could crumble in a 1.0 earthquake. Sorry, but it's time folks. I will say this, I've had enough of ripping buildings down to make parking lots in Detrioit. But this sucker is done. I remember seeing it in the 1980's and it was ugly then. It literally looks what would happen if a nuclear weapon were to be deployed.

The list needs a major update. See you all soon....

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 ^ I feel like scum for starting this google warehouse craze. it was one quick emergency upload to honor an occasion people! on topic, can you tell me what you've done as far as Ford Feild and Michigan Stadium go? Im really interested in those two! (duh)quote> This is how far I progressed into Michigan Stadium--- Look here

Busy, alot going on on my life right now. I still have it, just haven't worked on it in a very long time.

Will do, it's gonna be several more days unfortunately. The water still hasn't completely dried but it's close...then begin the balance of the repairs.

Yehah I hate that place too. It pays the bills (kinda, I'm way underpaid for the crap I put up with) but it's a a real POS. I got called in for six hours for that flood since some dumb girl left her window open and froze the fire suppresion lines which then exploded. Got to miss the U-M vs. ND hockey game I had tickets to as well. What a swell time...

Expensive...take a peak... http://www.universitytowers-mi.com/

Originally posted by: Sephiroth144 There are A LOT of projects that are in progress, or were at least started: Penobscot Building 211 West Fort Street One Woodward Avenue 751 Griswold Street Chase Tower Ypsilanti Water Tower Cadillac Tower Mc Namara Federal Building Yost Arena Michigan Stadium Ford Field Hudsons Dime Building Renaissance Center State Theater Kales Old GM HQ 150 W. Jefferson Comerica Tower I don't think a website is really neccecary, since Simtropolis is the biggest SC4 fansite, and where the people who download things go, and where the people who make things go. It's also free for us, and more convienient to maintain. And I know I won't pay for our own site!! quote> Well, just got into SC4(DE), and then found your group (was looking for the Ypsilanti Water Tower)... I am wondering how the Michigan Stadium and State Theater are doing...? Also, have you thought of hitting up the local businesses (Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti/Detroit) about sponsoring your works? (Heck, if you double dip in Second Life...) Not only is it cool for us to see, but I could see the Ypsi-Arbor Bowling people or The Brown Jug maybe paying a bit to get some exposure like this.....quote> Hello everybody.... I highly doubt the jug would pay for it. Besides, South U is pretty much a wasteland at the moment. I should know, I run the 19 story hunk of junk over there.

Edited by Jasoncw: This thread has been continued at: https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=37&threadid=85962&enterthread=y This is the Barry Sanders Project, a Michigan/Detroit Regional cooperative project of many of the members of Simtropolis. More information on this project can be located at this website www.barrysandersproject.com/main.html >> The Master List of Michigan---Edited on September2, 2004 Completed Lot List 1. Exit 69-Big Beaver Road--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=exit69 2. Kroger--- Completed by Simgoober. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=kroger 3. Target--- Completed by Joerg. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=target 4. Best Buy--- Completed by Simgoober. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=best%20buy 5. Circuit City--- Completed by urbanlegend. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=circuit%20city 6. Boston Market--- Competed by ardecila. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=boston%20market 7. Dunkin Donuts--- Completed by jule78. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=dunkin 8. Little Caesars and Dominos Pizza--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=BSP%20pizza 9. White Castle--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=white%20castle 10. Hooters--- Completed by Simgoober. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=Hooters 11. Belle Tire--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=belle%20tire 12. Midas--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=midas 13. Joe Louis Fist--- Completed by Faminsim. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=joe%20louis 14. Chicken Shack--- Completed by Faminsim. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=chicken%20shack 15. Uniroyal Tire--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=Uniroyal%20tire 16. Hungry Howies and Cottage Inn--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=pizza%20party%20pack%202 17. Tim Hortons--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=tim%20hortons 18. K-mart--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=kmart 19. Generic Road Sign--- Completed by budweiserdude23. https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&Str=generic%20road%20sign >> Michigan Landmarks---These should function as landmarks only Ford Field--- Project currently being worked on by wolverine. Comerica Park The Palace of Auburn Hills Tiger Stadium Michigan Stadium Spartan Stadium Joe Louis Arena and its parking garage with walkways Yost Ice Arena The Breslin Center Cobo Hall/ Cobo Center DTE Energy Music Theater (Pine Knob) Fifth Third Ballpark (Western Michigan Whitecaps) Olds Park (Lansing Lugnuts) >> Civic Lots---Police, Fire, Transportation, etc The Fox Theatre Federal Building in Detroit Train depot station in Detroit---Modified to be police HQ since that is the purpose it will serve in the near future. DIA Fort Mackinaw Orchestra Hall (DSO) African American Museum Cranbrook Henry Ford/Greenfield Village The Shrine at Indian River Gem Theater Detroit Athletic Club Any of the historic churches in downtown Detroit Detroit Public Library Detroit style bus stops The Soo Locks State Theater-- Currently being worked on by Farminsim. >> >> CO Commercial Buildings Unique To Michigan The Renaissance Center (RenCen/ GM World HQ) DaimlerChrysler World HQ Fisher Building Pensobscot Building Compuware World HQ Ford Motor Co. world HQ Hudsons Building Comerica Tower---Project currently being worked on by jondecker. 150 West Jeffeson (Madden Building)---Project currently being worked on by baldy. Stott Building Guardian Building Top of Troy Building Yazaki North America HQ Consumers Energy HQ Visteon Village (HQ) American Building in Southfield Columbia Building Book Cadillac Statler Hotel Former GM HQ Dominos Pizza World HQ Borders Books World HQ The Grand Hotel on Mackinaw Island >> CS Commercial Buildings Unique to Michigan Hockeytown Café--- Project being worked on by budweiserdude23. Bronners Tony’s Restaurant Zhenders Bavarian Inn >> >> Industrial Buildings Unique to Michigan Faygo Bottling Plant Better Made Factory Strohs Brewery Any auto plant---Lots of them all over the state. River Rouge Complex >> Non Specific Ideas Greektown Corktown---Some of the buildings, bars, and houses from that area might be cool… The Casinos---MGM, Motorcity, and Greektown. Should they be modeled since they are temporary? Any building by Albert Kahn Belle Isle Various structures located on campus in many of the state colleges/universities. >> >> CS not unique to Michigan but exist within the state Meijers Art Van Cabelas Murray's Auto Parts--- Project being worked on by Farminsim. Applebees--- Project to be worked on by budweiserdude23. Big Boy Gas Stations---Speedway, Citgo, Sunoco, etc. Borders Book Store Coney Island Restaurant

I'll shorten the list for you then....and save you some work. Everything!

Hmm, interesting, you reposted the aforementioned requests within this particular thread with a streamlined list of the requests within the same thread. Kind of defeats the purpose of details and basically you've reiterated the thread. No offense to your effort, but it's as if you're trying to plug 2 light bulbs into one socket. Maybe it's just me...but I request no doubling up by this listing of BAT ideas. If poeple want to make it, they'll see it as easily as you have. Thanks.

Originally posted by: Un1337 3 1x1 empty (or close to empty) lots that fuction exactlys like the regular airports I'd be very gratefulquote> Huh...interesting request, an airport smaller than a municpal runway?

Ahhh, no big deal.The texture is impossible for the cube. If anyone got close, I'd pay them 20 bucks. You need translucent, transparent, and essentially a prism. Not going to happen. The biggest problem is you'll be looking through two pieces of glasss from any one perspective. Now give me some light through those two pieces.. Translate that into SC4 and it's not going to happen. I'll model the cube, I won't try the texture....

I'll do the Apple Box...I'll model the cube if you can find the texture.

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast Originally posted by: robby2161 I have been thinking, and I think that it would be cool to do a BAT of the apple store in midtown, on the corner of 5th and 58th. It would be pretty simple I suppose, since it is a cube. quote> First someone must figure out how to make it completely transparent, cars won't go green when passing by it, and so on. But if it is done, it's gonna be awesome. And if its not awesome, it can be rebranded as a SC3K Ice Cube.quote> Honestly, transparency isn't the biggest problem with this thing. It's the way the cube reflects and refracts light.

Re-requesting....that issue should have been addressed. If said person requested it in the previous thread, then leave it at that and do not request it again here. We get the point. The old thread is visible to those who'd like to see it. Re-requesting will only make this thread as cluttered as the other, rendering it as tough to navigate as the other.

You guys deserved the recognition through all the high quality creations that have been put out by the members of the BSP. Congrats to the team!

That's nothing short of spectacular.

Here's the thread on the RenCen.

Good luck...nonetheless an attempt to bypass the request thread located here! The same line is used repeatedly, "I'd so it myself but don't understand the bat."..maybe that's what they should rename the req. thread. I don't understand nuclear physics that's why I don't request uranium....