BlackFrancis

Unfortunately they just left these screwed up buildings in the CAM starter packs, so I run into this semi-regularly. Why don't they remove them if they're not working correctly? Anyway my eyes glaze over when I try to read this, and when I'm done I'm still not sure what to delete and what to edit. I just bulldoze and hope something else grows in its place.

Well I'm not precisely sure what you want to achieve, but this embankment is 7.5 meters. The railway starts out at -7.5 meters so the viaduct puzzle pieces work pretty well. A 7.5m embankment is pretty high but I guess you could use the mayor mode terrain tools to make it lower after you got your rail up there. Or you could maybe make a valley to put this transition in so when it comes out it's not much higher than the surrounding area.

Yes, the Victorian one. I haven't downloaded anything independently. There's not really a need to be sorry about the documentation. You guys are volunteering your time, and you are the very people that saved this game. It was unplayable without NAM and it would have faded from memory seven or eight years ago without you guys. And if I had stayed with the game instead of leaving and coming back, I probably wouldn't need such documentation. I'll tell you, though, if you have left and you come back a few years later, it is very confusing. Not just this, but the Real Highway Mod. I wanted to make a six lane freeway, but I can't figure that out for the life of me. I found the starter piece but that's it. I read up on it. There was a 100+ page PDF I scanned through pretty thoroughly but it doesn't tell you the simplest things like how to build a straight six lane highway. Which pieces to use. I think I understand the ramps after glancing through the immense readme but what is the point of even trying if I can't build the main road for them? I could figure it out if I saw someone put the pieces together in a 20 second youtube video. If I knew how to put it together I'd volunteer to make such a video. In fact once NAM 31.1 comes out and the bugs are fixed, if I can ever figure out the viaduct rail and how to build a simple straight freeway, I'm going to make a demonstration video on Youtube that covers the most basic of basics. So many copies of SC4 were sold after the release of the new Sim City, and the people who bought it are slogging away in vanilla right now but it won't be long before a lot of them find the ST, SC4D, etc. Which station are you referring to here? Is it the Victorian one? Or is it the diagonal one? Those are the only other viaduct stations that come with the NAM.

...Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins\Network Addon Mod\Documentation Well clearly I haven't had enough sleep. Thanks.

Sorry about that. I doubt it's a bug...there just aren't instructions. Anyway I'm tired of it and don't care if I ever think about it again. Do you know the installation path of the NAM readme or a place where I can view or download it?

Well I'm not sure what that says about me. I'm not an expert but I built this computer and the previous two I had as well. So I'm not illiterate or anything, but at the same time there are things about SC4 that confuse me. This in particular is an oddity in the game itself, or I guess more appropriately in the NAM itself. Other rail stations do work. I made a third city without jobs to the south of the city with viaduct rail. If I removed that station, they used rail and viaduct rail to leave their city, cross the main test city, and travel to their jobs in the city to the west. If I put the station back in, they transferred to bus there even though I made a really crazy road network in an effort to entice them to use the rail. Nobody will board or disembark at that station and nobody will travel through it, even if DrawPaths shows it's fine. If I remove the road connection all together, nobody goes to work. I put an hour of effort into trying this one station last night. Actually it may have been more than that. I will try another station, I think, and if I cannot get that to work I will just give up on viaduct rail. In my home town there is heavy commuter rail that runs along a viaduct and I'd like to replicate that, but I'm not going to drive myself crazy with it. I know the NAM developers are busy developing the NAM, but I wish they would find time to make YouTube videos on how to use some of the features. Sometimes just watching someone do something similar to what you're trying to do will clear things all up. And no matter what language a person speaks a video can still be helpful. I think with a lot of people not liking the new SimCity, there will be a resurgence in the popularity of SC4 and I simultaneously feel great for these people (experiencing a great game for the first time) and sorry for them (getting everything working is quite a task). ----- Okay, now I've tried the other viaduct station that comes with the NAM simply named "Viaduct Station". Same thing. Doens't work. I really doubt there's a problem with these lots apart from being confusing. I just don't know how to use them. ----- I cannot find where the NAM installer put the readme, and I cannot find a download link for it by itself. I even downloaded the name again thinking it would have a readme in the zip, but all it has is the exe. --- Merged triple post. Please use the edit button next time! -timmie

Most stations like this requires that a network be clicked or dragged within the station to be properly activated. For this particular station, click the blank areas with the Rail tool (Rail network). Yes I did that and draw path closed up, but still nobody's using it as a bus station, rail station, or subway station. I have 1500 in the town with 200 jobs available. In the town next door I have 2000 industrial jobs with no people. No job zots everywhere in the town with people in it. They have bus, rail and subway through this station supposedly but will not use it, not even when it makes sense for them to use the station's bus to get to the tiny industrial area I have in that down.

I did what I think you were telling me to do but DrawPaths shows a broken path. I placed that other lot so that it looks like rail is going across the whole station, but the game apparently doesn't think so. The broken paths are at the ends of the station...not outside of the station but in it. Okay I just put rail down under the station where the breaks in drawpaths were, and they are closed but nobody's using it and they should be. I even put a subway line underneath it and they're not using it either. I have no idea how anyone could figure this out.

It says "Modern Overhanging Viaduct Rail Station Diagonal Viaduct Rail Station with Bus and Subway Service Use with Viaduct Rail Other Side lot" After that are specs. Then right above that is: "Viaduct Rail (other side) Put this in the overhanging column of the viaduct rail station after building the surrounding network." Okay so I never downloaded this and I know it doesn't come with the game, so it had to have came with the NAM. I don't know what it's talking about..."column" or "other side". Other side of what? It doesn't say anything about leaving out rails, but I will try that. Two consecutive? Leave out one on each side of the station? What is this column? It's pretty crazy if you ask me. Thanks for replying and if you can help clear up the rest of it I would appreciate it. You may have helped me enough to get it working on my own though.

The puzzle pieces are generally self explanatory. I'm trying to use the stations, though, and I cannot get it to work. Modern whatever that comes with the NAM. I have some how gotten to the point that DrawPaths shows rail as going through, but nobody will board the station. I've tried putting jobs in the same city with a rail line and in the next city over connected only by rail. Either it's not working or they'd rather be unemployed than ride the train. And to be honest I'm not sure how I got it to the point that the paths went through. For the longest time they didn't. I clicked around and tried this and that...finally the path went through but I don't know what I did to cause it. There's not a tutorial or even basic instructions anywhere, at least that I'm able to find. Thanks in advance for any help.

Ah, okay. I think I read that somewhere but I guess it didn't quite register. That makes sense, then. Thank you very much for your time!

Hello. It seems I'm the first person to post here in a long time. I think I may have a problem with the Traffic Simulator. I'm new to the game again after a few years off, and have created a test city that is growing rapidly. Roads suddenly became jammed. I exited the game and went to the traffic tool. I read about. Then I changed some settings. My roads should have a capacity of 12,000, but in the game they are still congested with far fewer people on them. One intersection in particular is strange so I guess I will focus on that. First, here is a picture of the paths. I do not know what it means but I will look it up soon: https://i.imgur.com/8atYYZB.jpg Here is a picture with the data view: https://i.imgur.com/dD9jYWl.jpg Querying the road with the game I have 8543 cars and 8 buses using that road. But here is a screen shot of what the capacities should be in the traffic simulator tool: https://i.imgur.com/LdhWl0e.png Obviously I could build a better transportation network...there's plenty of room and plenty of options. But it's hard to plan without knowing what the capacity is. I'm sure I've done something wrong but I have no idea what. Thanks

If you don't have it, download the extra cheats .dll. Then use the drawpaths command to see what the pathfinder is doing. If you have trouble interpreting this, please post a screenshot. Yeah I have no idea how to interpret this: https://i.imgur.com/8atYYZB.jpg The regular game query now says 8543 cars and 8 buses are using this road. The data view shows it as yellow until it gets to the freeway where it turns red. My traffic simulator configuration tool says a road has a capacity of 12,000 and a highway has 45,000. It should have excess capacity but I keep getting advisor warnings about it. I know from the photo you're probably thinking, "what is this guy doing? Doesn't he know the first thing about building a city"? It's just a test city, though, and also there's plenty of room to build more roads and transit in this area. I just want to make sure I know what I'm doing with this Traffic Simulator thing. I've read the documentation and it hasn't cleared anything up. The NAM traffic simulator has not changed substantially in several years, so this would not be a problem with NAM 31. I would suggest that you post your question to the along with some pictures so that we can see more clearly what your problem is. The traffic simulator does not generate any files. As for troubleshooting, please be more specific about what needs troubleshooting. I will visit that thread...I didn't know it existed. I thought the tool modified some kind of file or something which told the game how much traffic the transportation network could handle, among other things. As for the trouble shooting I was just wondering why it wasn't working. I set this program to have a greater all around network capacity, but in the game it's not happening. I'm just trying to figure out why. Perhaps I will see you in that other thread. Thanks to both of you. Edit - I hope someone sees my post in It's been almost two years between the last post and mine.

Yes. Funny thing about it, the building grew on its own after I removed those files. And it did so perfectly, with all the props and everything. It must have been in my plugin folder twice or something though I cannot find it. I'm not really sure what happened with it but it seems to be okay now.

So there are no bugs with the files Traffic Simulator generates? How do I troubleshoot what's happening in my game?