jonpfl

Good idea about the signs I have never used them before, how do you turn them on and off? Thx, jonpfl

All, I downloaded ths simgoober bus stop mod and plopped a few in my town. The problem is that I cannot find them anymore. With the maxis ones, when I turn on the traffic overlay, the bus stops highlight but not these. Am I missing something? I would love to use the simgoober ones but after playing a bit, it is hard to remember where they all are Thx jonpfl

Plopable is something you dont need to zone, simply plop it after selecting it from some list. Landmarks menu for example,..you'll find your downloaded plopable buildings there. While growable, is something you need to zone first, or else it wont ever exist in your city...in your case, building with only 3x3 has no problem with growing even without holding the ctrl-button, it only "helps" the building to grow if you really wanna do the zoning technique. And yes technically it can still grow in three row 1x3. But in other case, buildings that has a bigger zone like 4x6, 4x7, 5x5, etc, will need an assistance for them to grow by holding the ctrl-button while zoning. Notice the number that comes first, for example in 4x7 building. 4 needs to be facing the roads not the 7. If you zone it vice versa, 7x4 in this case, the building you intended to build will never grow. You'll have another building instead, and that's the building that required a 7x4 zone. That's why the zoning here is essential. always pay attention to the numbers that come first, for that must be the one to face the roads/streets. Sometimes you can find the zoning technique included in the readme file if the building has a large zone. So, don't forget to read them. But you musn't forget the other factors like demands or desirabilty. if you don't have them both, even your zoning is perfect, it will still not growing. I noticed that a bunch of cool commercial mods I downloaded (ie McDonald's, arbies, etc) require 3x3 so it doesn't matter if I zone 3 1x3 or 1 3x3? Of course assuming desire is there Thx jonpfl Also, can you plop a C building and jobs will just appear and be filled?

It's only a matter of growable and plopable, that's all. You won't see any of growable buildings you've download until the time is right. And i'm talking about in the availabilty of demand itself, desirabilty factors and zoning technique. Still, even when the demand is high, evergreen desirabilty, some bulding will only grow in certain type of zoning. If you zone it in the wrong way it won't grow no matter what. Holding the ctrl button while zoning is the key. Well, I guess I don't understand ploppable. Don't you just select it from the list a plop it down somewhere? Why does zoning matter in that case? Also, you mention it only matters for towable and ploppable, what else is there? Also, if I zone a 3x3 low density, can a 1x3 low density be built there and split up the zone? Can 3 1x3 low density get a 3x3 low density building (essentially taking over 3 lots)? Thx, jonpfl

Shouldn't be any problem with SimGoober's material. What will appear in the game will depend upon what the items are you have installed. Perhaps they're of higher stages and haven't grown yet. Or perhaps need other needs met. You should be able to find a copy of the Maxis default maps in the C:\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Regions directory. Just move the existing one out from the regions folder in the My Documents location and copy the other in if you want to keep the same name. Oh, and a quick note.... You can add more to your posts by using the "Edit" option at the bottom of the post window. Doing that will eliminate the need to post multiple times in a row. Oh, I think I might realize what I am doing wrong! Read in another post that when I lay my lots down, I can hold ctrl to make lots bigger than 1x3! I think a bunch of things I downloaded require 2x2 or 3x3! I just assumed if you lay a three 1x3 in a row, it could be changed to 3x3. True? Thx, jonpfl

Do I have unrealistic expectations? I was hoping to put all these mods in place and to be able to start a city and not see the same ole maxis buildings. I believe I downloaded quite a few residential and industry lots but when I start a new city, it looks the same (didn't play at long) The only time I saw any simgoober mods when I loaded that per existing maxis default city Thx, jonpfl

Ok, I loaded up a default Maxis map with a decent sized town/city on it (20k+). When I loaded up the map, I had a handful of the mods on there but not as many as I expected. I didn't count all the simgoober mods I downloaded but I would guess at 30 have been downloaded to my plugin directory. I assume this is normal behavior in that the majority of buildings will still be default maxis ones, right? I swore I didn't see any dirty industry or residential ones either, only commercial (IE chuck e cheese, jiffy lube, kinks and fireworks place come ton mind). Does the amount that show up have anything to do with the map or an existing city? Thx jonpfl

Ok, I went and downloaded a ton of Simgoober mods and put them in my plugin directory I didn't put them in the main plugin directory and instead a subdirectory. It doesn't seem like any of them showing up, what else do I need to do? Also, if I want to start the map clean (no cities), how do I do that? I accidently erased London and want it back Thx jonpfl

When I installed it, all that was included was 2 SC4LOT files 1 SC4MODEL file I assume the CO$$ is the growable version and the the SG_4x4_CocaColaBuilding_....SC4Lot is the reward building right? Thx

Ok, I added a Coca Cola building from SG and it worked fine but I noticed when I use the travel query tool, it doesn't show where the workers are coming from. Is this normal or did I miss some dependancy? Dependancies To ensure the proper functionality, make sure the files mentioned Below are installed in the plugins folder. Base / Overlay textures: The Lot Editor makes it nearly impossible to tell which of these packs are in use, so I would suggest keeping all 6 of them on your system. These are the primary custom textures I usually use. BSC PEG Texture Pack Vol 01 (Pegasus) Cerulean Textures V101 BSC Texture Pack Vol1 (Geoffhaw) BSC Texture Pack Vol2 (Geoffhaw) BSC Texture Pack Vol3 (Geoffhaw) BSC Texture Pack Vol4 (Geoffhaw) Prop Packs : These contain custom props which are used on these lots. Missing these won't be quite as obvious, but some or many small details will be missing from your lots. PropPakmjbTreesShrubsAndFlowers01 Ver 02 BSC SimGoober FloraPack Vol 01 BSC People Props BSC SG Prop Packs x 3

And I assume if you install a mod and all the dependencies are not there, it will just show up in your city as a big brown box, right? It will still function correctly but just look ugly, right? If you do have a big brown box, can you query it to see what is causing the problem and then start investigating it from that level (IE will it tell you the box is supposed to be a Red Lobster restaurant)? Thx jonpfl

Now this is a historical list, and all of the items under any of these subfolders may not currently be in my Plugins folder. Some have been removed for conflicts, but I keep them here as a reminder, with notes. Here is my Plugins folder: Note that there is one file here. The Extra Cheats dll file must be at the top level of Plugins. Also, see that some extra folders have been added at the end to force some plugins to load last. If you compare this to the downloads list, there is not a 1:1 correspondence. If you want a complete list, PM me. I won't take up more server space with a fully expanded list. How big is your plugin folder? Thx jonpfl

All, So it is safe to just put all the dependancies in one directory? I keep reading about how if you install this, make sure you get rid of something else If everything is in the same directory, you don't have to worry, right? Thx jonpfl

First you need to mention what kinda mod is that. maybe we can help you find the dependency. Second, sorry that's just to many for us to pinpoint all dependencies used by Simgoober. You don't need all dependencies if you just download some of Simgoober's bats/lots. In any case, all the dependencies and their links included in the readme file once you finished downloading. You just need to focus on that. Well, I was at my home PC last night trying to install some and noticed when I searched from some they said they were obsolete. I will download the ones you mentioned and go from there Thx!! So, it is pretty safe to assume that every mod done by Simgoober will be convered by everything mentioned above? I will read the readmes just in case though You could spend hours upon hours downloading all the cool user content, it is amazing Thx jonpfl EDIT : Here is one file I just looked at (Hooters) and noticed a bunch of dependancies What is the best way to go about finding them? Just search on this stie? Dependencies: These files should be in your Maxis/Plugins folder. They are prop packs released on the SimTropolis Exchange (STEX), that are used by many lots. They may not all be in use on this lot, but it would be a good idea to have them. PropPaksmjbvol01 PropsPakmjbvol02 PropsPakmjbFencesAndWallsVol01 PropPakmjbFlowersVol03 PropsPakmjbTreesAndBushesVol03 BSC PEG Texture Pack Vol 01 Cerulean Textures V101 Footpath Overlay Textures Reverse Path Overlay Textures Pack 1 SimGoober Grocery Props