GoldenKevin

Who's wide and diagonal runways? Dedgren's or Voltaire's?

Voltaire was working on Diagonal Runways? Na, I think you're getting confused with Voltaire and Dredgren (who's also working on wide runways), probably because he posted in this thread too. He hasn't been active for quite a time though. If you're really interested in it, the link to the board is here.

Er, so a Flight Simulator scenery package? For which Flight Simulator? MSFS 2004?

I'm probably gonna ask this every month, so, any progress? (I mean on the RMIP, not any of your other projects)

A control tower based on Oakland International Airport, eh?

Argh, I am so impatient. No updates for a month. Are you still resting?

Hmm, I find this FAA Advisory Circular for Airport Markings a very useful reference tool. (Warning: PDF 1.35 MB. Dial-up users beware) By the way, I'm not demanding anything, I just want to know if it's possible to do this. Anyway, after looking through it, is it possible to add an enhanced taxiway centerline for the next Wide Runways release? Enhanced Taxiway Centerlines are usually found in big airports and are "enhanced for 150 feet (45.7 m) prior to a runway holding position marking" "An enhanced taxiway centerline marking consists of a parallel line of yellow dashes on either side of the existing taxiway centerline." Although this would probably include redoing every single taxiway in the RMIPs, and redoing every runway piece for the new concrete runways, is it possible to outline the markings in black? Like, I've read that the yellow taxiway markings and white runway markings could be outlined in black (well, some pieces must be) in black if it's written into a concrete or light pavement surface. I bet it'll just delay the concrete runway even more, so actually, I wouldn't recommend redoing every single piece, and besides, the black outlining is only 6 inches wide. That probably won't even show up in SimCity 4. And this passage is something new: (2) Configuration B. For this configuration, the number of stripes required is related to the runway width as indicated in Table 2. The stripes are 150 feet (45 m) long and 5.75 feet (1.75 m) wide and spaced 5.75 feet (1.75 m) apart except the center space is 11.5 feet (3.5 m) as shown in Figure 1. The outboard edges of the outboard stripes extend laterally to within 10 feet (3 m) of the edge of a runway or to a distance of 92 feet (27 m) on either side of a runway centerline, whichever results in the smaller lateral distance.quote> By the way, the threshold stripes required for Configuration B for 200 feet (60 m) wide runways is 16 stripes. I don't know how that's possible, considering all Configuration A (most common thresholds) are 8 stripes, which means it has to be double the amount. By the way, I've read that threshold markings made after January 1, 2008 must be in Configuration B.

I know the runway width argument is probably way over, but I just realized that the FAA runway width thing that Kumba linked officially states that runways serving Airplane Design Group IV and V (Which includes Boeing 707, 720, 757, 767, 777, 787, DC-8, DC-10 [source]) require 150 ft [45 m] plus a shoulder width of 25-35 ft [7.5-10.5 m], and it officially states that runways serving Airplane Design Group VI (Airbus A380 [source]) require 200 feet [60m] plus 40 ft [12 m] of shoulder. I still can't find a list of Airplane Design Groups for the rest of the Airbus planes though, if I did, this list would be a lot bigger. 45 m of runway is closer to 3 tiles, than 2, and don't forget the 7.5 m of shoulder adding to 52.5, resulting in 3.3 tiles, fairly close to 3.5 tiles. Also, the 747 require 10.5 meters of shoulder, adding to 55.5, resulting in 3.45 tiles. Both are very close to 3.5. And also the Airbus A380 (Airplane Design Group VI) requires 60 m of runway width and 12 m of shoulder, going to 72 m, which is exactly 4.5 tiles. I guess Voltaire could shrink the runway to 3 or 4, because you could round either way. Or if you want to get ready for the Airbus A380, make it 5 tiles because you want a minimum of 4.5. Here are some runways of airports near me and that I go to often: Newark Intl (KEWR): Runways 4L22R, 4R/22L, 11/29- All 150 ft [45 m] New York Kennedy Intl (KJFK): Runways 4L/22R, 13L/31R, 13R/31L- 150 ft [45 m], Runway 4R/22L- 200 ft [60 m] LaGuardia Intl (KLGA): Runways 13/31, 22/4- 150 ft [45 m] Teterboro General Aviation (KTEB): Runways 1/19, 6/24- 150 ft [45 m] Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC): Runways 34L/16R, 34R/16L, 35/17, 14/32- All 150 ft [45 m] Pudong Intl (ZSPD): Runways 35/17- ~200 ft [60m], 34/16- ~200 ft [60m] Tokyo Narita Intl (RJAA): Runways 34L/16R- ~200 ft [60m], 34R/16L- ~200 ft [60m] For some reason, many asian international airports have 60m wide runways? What's going on with that? Probably because they handle many destinations far away from them, such as from America. I heard runways need to be bigger to handle jets from farther away. P.S., the link that Kumba gave is here. And sorry for the giant post. EDIT: Forgot to link

Oh, and Voltaire, you probably know that the Network-Addon Modd (NAM) changed a U-Drive-It train. They changed a Steam Train to a Elevated Rail (Edit). I don't know how they did that, and you probably don't know either, but do you think you could change one of the planes in U-Drive-It to a small jet?

Haven't posted in a long time, but I must say, why did you have to release this when I was on my vacation to Salt Lake City? >. Anyway, when I went on the plane, at least I knew what all the markings at the airport meant.

So, how's the progress for the Runway intersections going along Dedgren?

Hopefully, he'll post on his progress soon.

It's funny how Yoman mentions Pudong Airport. I'm from Shanghai, where Pudong is in, and I go to that airport like every year.

I found a very realistic and cool flight simulator called FlightGear. The only problem is that it's graphics are not all that great, but's it's still pretty nice.

I don't see any evident progress for 2 weeks now, I hope this project is not dead.

You know what would be cool? If you could replace the Fire Plane UDI Automata with a DC-7 like how they replace the Steam Train with an El Rail with the Network Addon Mod. If you could also change the drop water thing into something else, that'll be very cool.

Cool, nice job in finding this!

Is it possible to put a taxiway exit in the middle of a displaced threshold? That'll look very nice. Or maybe, you could put individual displaced threshold lots so the lengths of our displaced thresholds will all be different.

*dies* You sure were quick about that! I'm going to go crazy and build 18 runways. Oh, and be sure to include extra designators in the LAE

Voltaire, is it possible that you could create more runway designators such as 10, 19, 28, and 1? Occasionally, I run into the problem of having more than three parallel runways. Since this is the official way to solve this problem in real life, can you make these designators in RMIP too?

What surprised me about the Runways is that it's really more like multiple runways in one strip than only one runway. Like 4 of them in one strip. I measured about 4.5 miles across all of them. I got the same bump problem like you, at the north end, it made a curve.