Fascinating thread. I certainly hope its being read by the right people Personally, I just can't see a release of these titles before Vista gets out... more specifically DirectX 10. The roadmap for everything is changing later this year, supposedly. AMD's new socket, Intel's new chips, MS new version of Windoh's. I can't really see a company like EA being blind to those developments, and until that settles, you certainly won't see SC5. On the upside, there has been four versions of SC spanning a decade or so. All versions of the product have been a success. Deluxe is still selling copies despite its age. Having said that, I think you'd have to be nuts to think there won't be a SC5, its just a matter of when, not if. My 2 cents.