Abandoned due to commute time

[ali20152015 0]

I hate that, seriously I hate commute time in Simcity 4. Most commute time situations are non-realistic and bullshits. I keep having buildings abandoned due to long commute time. Look my screenshot below:

 

 

As you have noticed, I have 2 buildings with the "No job" zot and when I click on it, it says abandoned due to commute time. Then the buildings turn black and I have to demolish them. In the screenshot, there are only 2 buildings which are affected, but 3 - 4 buildings near them also faced the same some seconds later.

 

They are high-wealth residential buildings. I have roads. I have bus stops nearby. And the best part, I have high commercial buildings IN FRONT of them, yes, in front! How can a building abandoned due to a long commute time when they have roads in front of them and the job buildings are just in front of them?

 

I am fed up like this seriously!

 

I cannot play to keep facing these crappy commute issues. Is there a solution? Is a there a mod to eliminate this "No job" crap? The commute time issue is too exaggerated. It is NOT realistic at all!

[mayorplease 116]

The problem seems to be that you don't have enough jobs for your R$$$ sims.

Did you know that Co$$$ buildings only supply 15% of their jobs to R$$$ sims? The rest is for R$ and R$$ sims. 

My guess is you have just too many R$$$ sims in your city in relation to R$ and R$$.

[ali20152015 0]

Also I have NAM installed

Ok, what advise yoi can give me to avoid the commute time issue?

[mayorplease 116]

As I tried to point out, it is not really a commute time issue.

There just are not the right type of jobs available for these poor sims.

If you had the jobs in your city the sims would most likely find a way to get to them.

 

There are two things you could do:

 

1 - Increase the amount of Co$$$ jobs

2 - Decrease the amount of R$$$ sims 

 

Keep in mind what I said earlier, only 10-15% of the jobs of Co$$$ buildings are for R$$$ sims. For example, if you build a new Co$$$ tower with 5000 jobs, only 500 R$$$ sims will work there. 4500 jobs are for R$ and R$$ sims.

 

Take a look at your population graph. Most of your sims in a healthy city should be R$$ followed by R$. Only a tiny amount should be R$$$. 

If you have too many R$$$ sims, try raising the taxes for them so they move out.

[Indiana Joe 1,750]

Residential tends to grow too rampantly, and commercial jobs don't keep up.  You have to ignore your excess R demand and stimulate more C demand with parks and landmarks and ordinances and airports and whatnot.

[ali20152015 0]

So to be short, I must place emphasis more on R$, R$$, C$, C$$, C$$$, I$, I$$ and I$$$ than R$$$ in the next city I am building right?

 

Is there a type of zoning example I can follow? Like 4x3 or 4x2?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

When starting out, and perhaps later, if you want to avoid bogus R$$$ properties (mansions) you could zone low density 2 x 1.  Blocks of these cannot be consolidated into the necessary 3 x and 4 x lots that are required for R$$$ mansions.

 

This simulation has a few frogs like early development of mansions that are unsuitable for a start up if you use the default 1 x 2 R zoning.  Hand zoning is a solution.

 

To find the dispersion of jobs in any building, you need the developer's debug library called extra cheats dll.  Once you have this properly installed, activate the query operator (/), then holding down CTRL+ALT+SHIFT move the operator over a building to get the debug panel for the building.  Among other things this includes the number of jobs in each class.

[BlakeMW 84]

A very simply way to solve this problem is by raising R$$$ tax, I suggest trying 10% or 11%, this will shift the balance from insufficient jobs for the R$$$ sims, to having enough jobs for them.

 

Now in my cities I leave R tax rates at default and never have R$$$ abandonment problems, I don't know exactly what I started doing differently, but I think it's in part due to my strong emphasis on education and creating high wealth jobs. For instance I use a lot of parks to boost land value and attract the higher wealth commercial, and with industry I strongly promote development of IM and IHT. Perhaps because I very quickly satisfy C$$, C$$$ and IHT demand, there is less gap between when R$$$ sims move in, and when the jobs for them become available.