GTA V

[suomi2005 52]

It's really coming and I tried to ignore this topic! Well I'm a huge fan of R* games and GTA but they kinda lost something when they jumped to this gen of consoles. The fun factor as other has stated on this site was not as present as it was in GTA3, Vice City or San Andreas. GTA4 was over all more serious and "realistic" but it also restricted that sense of freedom many got from San Andreas. I am not saying that GTA4 is a bad game it's excellent game bringing a lot new into the franchise like the online features, but still for me its not the best GTA. I have spent far more time playing, replaying and fooling around in San Andreas than in GTA4.

I look forward for the new trailer.

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so lets start speculation then.

Ma take is, it's cleary back in the US, as the both the written "five" and the letter V are pretty much hardcopies of old 5 dollar bills (speaking of e.g. 1899 issue silver certifice $5 or 1896 issue educational series, both wear that V on the back)

I doubt tho that it'll be based in this era, although the vintage design of the whole "5" thing leads to this conclusion. it's more likely to be a couple decades later, maybe even in the 2000s. after all, it's grand theft AUTO and not grand theft horse (as there where barely any motorized vehicles on the road back in those days)

The obvious resemblance to the dollar bills value might (and hopefully does) hint to a little more rags to riches in the storyline.

The greenish look, although this is pretty much the most speculative idea in this, does remember me of the Grove Street color. Together with previous rumors of CJ's voice actor having a GTA5 script on his desk the idea gets some fuel...

EDIT: oh and the fact that it's GTA5 and not GTA4:XYZ sounds like big changes to me (as everytime a real new title came, just take the changes from 2 to 3 or from san andreas, which was the last title in the 3 series, to 4)

this gonna be an effin hard week to pass by

  Edited October 26, 2011 by GMT  

[PontiacFiero84 109]

THE TRAILER IS UNDER A WEEK AWAY!

Since the "Five" is written like it is , my guess is , it could be in Washington D.C , I doubt it , but it's just a guess.

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the federal type font suggests a politically important city, might be Washington DC (aka Capitol City)

The V and the obvious dollar-styles suggest rags to riches and a city starting with V where this is available: Las Venturas or Vinewood (Los Santos)

anyway, reading through the internets a lotta people consider Vinewood, and therefore Los Santos, as the next location because there's just too much rumors leading this way.

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But either way, it's weirdly amazing how a famous producer/publisher announces a new release of an even more famous title (in the shadows of another title's pr campaign, just think of how they boost max payne 3 atm and the first hint to gta 5 was nothing but a tweet) and 98% of the hype created goes: where it will be set?

thats what I love bout open world gaming ^^

  Edited October 28, 2011 by GMT  

[Kifflom112 355]

Oh god, 4 more hours until the preview!!! But I got school so I'll see it around 5:00pm.

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and I am bond to my cell as a web modem... hope it can handle the load and I get to watch the trailer in due time...

Still got the memories of the GTA4 trailer and it was a complete mess to get it upon release -.-

EDIT: THANKS ROCKSTAR FOR LISTENING TO OUR PRAYERS!!!!

woo good I am in love already after a 1:24 trailer

Just the first scene of the trailer did that actually.

Can't do too much wrong within THIS setting

  Edited November 2, 2011 by GMT  

[StefanR95 5]

I am very excited about this game. Back in San Andreas, hopefully it has all the features of GTA San Andreas and GTA IV. That would make a good game.

This game looks very promising so far by the trailer. Hopefully it is not as serious as GTA IV.

[Kifflom112 355]

I can't wait to see gameplay and vehicle list, this looks amazing. I hope the storyline is good, but they focus on funny commercial, good tunes, funny pedestrians and hilarious cops. Oh and the planes and the countryside with pines. I can't wait!

[Ocram's Razr 963]

I saw the trailer on my phone. At that resolution, it looked like it could be a trailer for a live action movie.

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after whatching the trailer about 2billion times frame by frame I am even more stunned than before...

Amazing detailing and a real feel of the location. compared to whats shown in the trailer, 4 feels sterile like a hospital.

Looks like they pushed the RAGE engine a little further.

Nice work on the dust/smog/fog specific to the LA area, the clouds look stunningly real such as the backdrop. especially the scene with the big mountain and the 3 hikers looks like pure CGI.

Very interesting how much work they seem to put into npc-interaction. many scenes look just real because of how those NPCs are reakting to each other (and what's supposed to be the lead character, tho it seems like theres 2 of them)

whats also cool to see is all the different backdrop locations with the windpark, the oil derricks area, the grapevines, the vinewood hills (or whatever they are called where the sign is located)

aaand of cooourse the vasteness of city. from the few overviews given in the trailer I expect it to be about the size of LC, maybe even bigger with all the backdrop.

I doubt tho it'll be San Andreas as a whole, there's just nothing that hints this way. All we see is Los Santos and some surrounding countryside.

[Kifflom112 355]

That's fine, as long as if there is a countryside to LS I'll be fine, and maybe let us fly endlessly only through one ocean direction. If they do do San Andreas as a whole or add expansion packs, which I know they won't, this will be very good. I can only predict what it would be like if it was just Los Santos and the countryside. Lets just think, maybe a two runway airport with great detail, and w=hopefully some plane props or hopefully 737's that you can fly. I don't know but I hope there will be more than a crop duster, Hydra, a dodo, and a Shamal, they will have some sort of plane do to a realism look prop or no prop. Then lets move onto region. This is exciting compared to how large they could make the city to Liberty City. Downtown, large ghettos, large Beverly Hills, cookie cutter suburbs, highways, shops, beach, then mountains, country roads with pines, a desert. I love it, I hope it is only Los Santos so you can get a real city feel. And the missions, the detail. I love the building and road detail. I just can't wait.

Take a look yourself!

  Edited November 3, 2011 by Zulu2065  

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If the city of Los Santos was as big as the replicated area of LA in LA Noire, PLUS the surrounding countryside, they gotta knock me out to get me off the screen.

I doubt it but lets wait another 2-3 months, I guess thats about when the first in depth details pop up... oh boy I so can't wait -.-

EDIT:

Let's add 2 faithful quotes from R* to this discussion:

We are very proud to officially announce that Grand Theft Auto V is in full development.

Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created.

A bold new direction in open-world freedom, storytelling, mission-based gameplay and online multiplayer, Grand Theft Auto V focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a re-imagined, present day Southern California.

especially the latter 2 parts are interesting.

Lots of Los Santos and lots of landscape? Even bigger than RDR?

More free roaming options? Maybe a better climbing system, not as sophisticated as in AC or PoP but still more than hopping fences? Rags to Riches back?

Grand Theft Auto V is another radical reinvention of the Grand Theft Auto universe

As the reinvented the visuals of GTA in IV and these don't look that different in V, do they reinvent the gameplay in V?

I hope so!

  Edited November 4, 2011 by GMT  

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oh since news around this game are rather rare and you gotta keep the sidelines tracked, here's a nice quote from an interview:

Game Informer: You just released the GTA V trailer. Can you talk about that project in any respect? Obviously, it looks like it's going back to San Andreas.

Dan Houser: I've got to be real careful here, or they will drag me through the office and whip me with barbwire. I will stick to exactly what's in the press release. It's Los Santos and the surrounding countryside - and a very big map.

[jdenm8 362]

Eh... No Las Venturas and probably no San Fierro. To me, Los Santos was the most boring part of GTA:SA, San Fierro and Las Venturas and their surrounding countrysides were far more interesting.

I'm not expecting much, I found GTAIV pretty damn boring and I can't bring together the energy to finish it, the DLC was much nicer to play than the base game, but I still see no replay value in them and RDR holds no appeal whatsoever.

Even looking at the trailer, the furthest we see from the City Center is about the same distance as it was in GTA:SA, Though maybe SA's fog and FoV plays tricks to enhance the feeling of distance.

Though, I think one of the more important things to me will be to see if they pull that Six Month Delay for the PC release and then cripple it by doing a crap job crap again.

  Edited January 8, 2012 by jdenm8  

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I'm totally with the Los-Santos-only thing. While San Andreas felt big, it really was small. I sort of don't like the idea of a whole state with three big important cities, all together the size of about Liberty City in GTA4. I know it was all technical aspects to the size limitation but that doesn't change my personal opinion.

While GTA 3 itself was more an experimental playground (going 3rd person 3d), Vice City and San Andreas where the climax in this particular series in terms of gameplay.

I feel the same will happen now again in 5 after the experimental GTA4 series. GTA4 was the biggest experiment with a new engine and state of the art graphics (sort of) and official multiplayer (unlike the fanmade multiplayer in San Andreas). Then the EFLC DLCs pushed the game in terms of gameplay, testing out what sidekicks work well with the audience and stuff.

The title GTA5 suggests a new series will launch upon it's release. Since the graphical aspect corresponds to a polished version of what we've seen in 4, I recon the biggest changes in 5 are in aspects of gameplay, maybe not even in terms of mechanics but in terms of content only. Ok, there's hints to multiple main characters, at least two, R* trailers always focussed on the main character and here 2 characters are put into spotlight, which might feel like a big change in terms mechanic but it really is only in terms of storytelling.

Probably we get a DLC with other cities of San Andreas. On the one hand R* tends to a certain extend to listen to the community (just see how they enhanced content and gameplay with the EFLC DLCs as the lack of it was the biggest letdown and what angered the community most), and the community wanted San Andreas back, now they give us Los Santos as this was the most important city in San Andreas, period. Now we got content/gameplay DLCs and since the main focus for GTA5 most probalby will be gameplay, this gives room to "physical" DLCs such as terrain enhancements, e.g. more cities.

This would once again show how R* listens to the community as many many players are sort of saddened that 5 will be Los Santos only.

RDR is important aswell to the development of GTA5. classic oaters are all about the southwestern US landscape (one which I fell in love with), the actual storyline doesn't really matter. Just go ahead and start counting the scenes with 99% landscape and somewhere in the center of the screen a hard-to-spot lonesome cowboy.

That feeling is what RDR tried to represent and frankly, hell yeah it delivered.

That's important for GTA5 as it will be back to the "surrounding countryside" of Los Santos, something that totally not happened in GTA4 and therefore gotta be well done to be convincing. What better playground to "learn" to be convincing with landscaping than a genre that is all about the landscape?

To be honest, I don't get how people are all nostalgic and crying about Los Santos only without allowing it to convince with the details of the location and of course the gameplay.

I still remember how folks where all excited about the then new GTA4 and at the same time sort of annoyed that it's not the uber-holy San Andreas again. Still the game turned out as a record-selling piece of entertainment media but a letdown in terms of gameplay. Now folks FINALLY get a glimpse of San Andreas back, not even knowing what will come in detail but with a very likely chance to be as great a gameplay experience as GTA:SA and still they already cry their brains out how stupid R* is to not give "us" the entire state of San Andreas. Given, with the 3 different cities everyone was able to pick their favorite but in terms of gameplay, Los Santos was most important to GTA:SA, call it essence if you want, and this essence is what we get now. Look forward to it as a new exciting game that "learned" from the not-so-good parts of GTA4 rather than a stupid idea of R* for not including San Fiero and Las Venturas.

[jdenm8 362]

Did I say omitting San Fierro and Las Venturas was a stupid idea? *reads post again* Nope, I only said that Los Santos was the most boring part of the game.

There's a reason why of GTA:SA, I remember getting the garage in San Fierro, Jizzy's Club, The airstrip mission with the motorbike, the Hippie, the Casino Robbery and shooting endless waves of guys wearing purple.

I'm more concerned with them not delaying and not doing a rushed, slap-together job for the PC version

  Edited January 8, 2012 by jdenm8  

[LastTrueChamp 196]

I remember seeing a leaked map of the game and although a picture of a TV screen with the image on it isn't the best source, it looked pretty legit to me as it kept with the GTA IV map style.

It showed one major city (presumably Los Santos) Some smaller towns along a highway and a larger wilderness area to the north where I'm guessing the mountain in the trailer is located.

I'll see if I can find the link.

Edit: Link

  Edited January 9, 2012 by LastTrueChamp  

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I hope so because all other attempts at "leaked" maps have been cleary deemed fake already and there's also a very aggresive pr release from rockstar saying that everything leaked is more a matter of attention-b... than actual game content...

[LastTrueChamp 196]

I hope so because all other attempts at "leaked" maps have been cleary deemed fake already and there's also a very aggresive pr release from rockstar saying that everything leaked is more a matter of attention-b... than actual game content...

You're most likely right. This map seems kind of small to me and I just realized that they would almost definitely change the menu layout.

Though its still cool to get a visual speculation on how the map might turn out.

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this very map has been identified fake already.

first of all the color-scheme represents the one frome San Andreas, which is cleary over now.

then the menu is exactly the same as in GTA4, which is not likely to happen either.

The given screenshot of the "game" is about the worst photoshopping available. It's an exact location in Liberty City with a few tidbits of Los Santos buildings photoshopped into them.

Also, there's no Los Santos river which is about as unlikely as a 1:1 scale replica of Los Angeles.

And as a last idea, the shape is a hardcopy of this poster in GTA4, which was long time used to speculate a France-based location like Paris, altho I must say there's also an obvious resemblance to the LA coastline (plus many other hints given in the GTA4 that link to a Los Santos/San Andreas location which made think of it as the next location ever since, altho I doubted it due to the fact that there's a lot of Los Angeles from R* lately, might think they're obsessed with it)

[Kifflom112 355]

Hm I disagree, I feel that since Los Santos will be the only city and bigger than all of the GTA IV map that there will be more landmarks, interesting places, and stuff like that.

[Ocram's Razr 963]

If Los Santos is going to be smaller than LA, then more of the surrounding countryside and county should be included because GTA 5 should have a map comparable in size to the real LA, especially since LA Noir did that already.

[Follarch 326]

I wonder how many fans in here deem the sidewalks more suitable roads than the roads themselves.

If this game isn't a "cuss-up-a-storm" title that dares to cross the moral line more than 20 times, I may give it a try. 4 was fun, especially watching Niko fly through the air after impacting a low wall at high speeds on a motorcycle, or racing to the airport to grab a police Blackhawk in a multiplayer game. I even obeyed the laws of the road here and there. So yeah, fun fun series, just could use a bit less language.

[FreewayofFlight 41]

I wonder how many fans in here deem the sidewalks more suitable roads than the roads themselves.

If this game isn't a "cuss-up-a-storm" title that dares to cross the moral line more than 20 times, I may give it a try. 4 was fun, especially watching Niko fly through the air after impacting a low wall at high speeds on a motorcycle, or racing to the airport to grab a police Blackhawk in a multiplayer game. I even obeyed the laws of the road here and there. So yeah, fun fun series, just could use a bit less language.

The only reason I bought GTA San Andreas was the ability to drive from one city to the next. But on that game, it is hard to obey traffic laws when you are constantly rear-ended on the Julius Thruway and the San Fierro Highway. Hopefully GTA 5 will have a better traffic engine that kinda allows you to drive safely... if you want to that is.

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Hm I disagree, I feel that since Los Santos will be the only city and bigger than all of the GTA IV map that there will be more landmarks, interesting places, and stuff like that.

I never talked about landmarks, only about the size. But you're right, Los Santos will be the only big city and certainly quite bigger than and totally unrelated to Los Santos from GTA:SA. We will indeed get more landmarks and interesting places, plus the geography of the city seems to be even more realistic than in San Andreas, altho not 100%. I really hope they include La Brea Tar Pits this time. Dunno why but I'm sorta obsessed with it. Anyway, my premier source of info on that has pinpointed over 60 more or less iconic LA buildings - or at least buildings higly inspired by them - in the trailer, plus their real life location of course and they are constantly working on interpreting the city map, suggesting locations drawing up maps based on what we've seen and so on...

If Los Santos is going to be smaller than LA, then more of the surrounding countryside and county should be included because GTA 5 should have a map comparable in size to the real LA, especially since LA Noir did that already.

Of course it will be smaller than LA. The game takes place in the LA Basin, not just LA itself (while it seems to be one city in the LA Basin, it's really a couple cities that are connected. fyi: LA's most famous beach in Santa Monica is actually not a part of Los Angeles in administrative perspective).

LA's administrative area is about 500 mile² which is approximately the size of the map of Just Cause 2, for comparison (a greatly detailed and fun to explore map but sometimes over the top in terms of scale I might add)

LA's MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) is about ten times the size, 4850 miles² and includes LA county and Orange County

and the, for consideration of the new Los Santos interesing CSA (Combined Statistical Area) is about 33400 mile² and covers an area up to Nevada. Interesting for Los Santos as it will include loads of LA's backdrop.

I can promise you right away, the map won't be to scale. Can't be from a technical aspect AND a gameplay aspect. Who want's to spend a couple real life hours on the freeway of a game just to get from a to b? Also, LA is a beast of repetitiveness thank's to it's sprawl, just not what you need in a storydriven game.

I wonder how many fans in here deem the sidewalks more suitable roads than the roads themselves. :PIf this game isn't a "cuss-up-a-storm" title that dares to cross the moral line more than 20 times, I may give it a try. 4 was fun, especially watching Niko fly through the air after impacting a low wall at high speeds on a motorcycle, or racing to the airport to grab a police Blackhawk in a multiplayer game. I even obeyed the laws of the road here and there. So yeah, fun fun series, just could use a bit less language.

The only reason I bought GTA San Andreas was the ability to drive from one city to the next. But on that game, it is hard to obey traffic laws when you are constantly rear-ended on the Julius Thruway and the San Fierro Highway. Hopefully GTA 5 will have a better traffic engine that kinda allows you to drive safely... if you want to that is.

I really hope they do improve the traffic simulation. I hated it in San Andreas and even more in GTA4. always getting rear ended by crazy taxi drivers at red lights sucks. I really like to cruise down the roads and "breath in" what the devs have given us in terms of beauty and details, but it just aint no fun with the traffic simulation.

But then again, GTA is not ment to be real but rather a cynical representation of reality so I guess traffic simulation will stay this way. Plus I think Archean's moral line will be crossed a couple of times again.

  Edited January 20, 2012 by GMT  

[allonborder 0]

I loved playing Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and IV, and I heard they might be working on the second game of the GTA 4 era. I am very excited for this game since there will most likely be a nice looking country side, planes, and fun missions. Who else is excited about this game?

yaa !!!

i am also excited from this game.........i play many time this game...........grand theft auto is amazing game............... its play for acheived the specific mission step by step so its very interesting.....................

[Larks2242 251]

Sounds more like it will be either a PS4 launch title, or end of the 2013 fiscal quarter release.

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where has my comment gone?

EDIT: ok no pageflip... dang

ok, it was a rather long text conerning the ps4 theory, but I'm lazy now so I keep it short.

the game wont be next gen. considering the long time R* puts into development of gta, it's very likely they started right after the release of gta4 or the release of the dlc. now the first part is creating the storyline and collecting reference for the setting so this might as well have been started parallel to the last tweaks of gta4, but that's speculation.

R* presented us at least a late beta-state game in the trailer a few months back which underlines my previous idea.

now the thing is, not a single next-gen console (except the new nintendo which, franky, is no next gen in terms of technics) has been announced yet, latest news I found (and I took the care to translate it as it was german but my comment vanished so I just summarize it now) was online at the german computerbase including an interview with sony france's manager, who said there's only rumors, nothing to tell about the ps4 yet and since sony released the ps3 as the latest of all current gen consoles, they probably will be the last to announce anything on the next gen aswell.

keeping that in mind, it's very very verrrrrry unlikely the game will be a next gen launching title. again, keeping the long time in mind it takes to create such a game, I think it is close to impossible to:

- either create a game for a console that doesn't excist but on the to do list of it's producer

- or to keep the existance of the console a secret throughout the entire production cycle of the game

plus I consider it a rather stupid idea to officially announce a game that's supposed to be released "soon" and to be played on a platform which doesn't exist but in speculative ideas.

as for the relase date... well late 2012 is likely, but the postponed release of max payne 3 might change that to early 2013 because it would be a bad economic move to present 2 blockbuster games in a short time, but R* is always up for some suprises so I hope I'm wrong with this idea and they give us gta5 in 2012 (I'm of course talking legal years as determing fiscal years is up to every company or at least every industry)

  Edited February 6, 2012 by GMT  

[Ocram's Razr 963]

If GTA5 is limited to only Los Santos, it must be comparable in size to LA in LA NOIR.

[ZMT123 13]

If GTA5 is limited to only Los Santos, it must be comparable in size to LA in LA NOIR.

The GTA V map is going to be MUCH bigger than the LA Noire map, because it will contain countryside. Also, Rockstar said on Twitter, the GTA V map will be huge.