Bahamd81's lot thread

[bahamd81 156]

My very first attempts at lot-making were Public Parking Lots. Now, I am starting something new called Woods lots. Many others have been produced (including the great seasonal ones by Pegasus) but this is one using just the LOT EDITOR because I dont know how to BAT. I will release my first attempt picture soon. I am a $%&^! at lotting, but I am trying to start a good BAT-and-lot career.

[Ceafus 88 1,794]

I can't wait to see the progress.

[bahamd81 156]

Ok, here it is, my first attempt:

If you want an ingame pic I will do that later. It will look like that after all the saplings grow, there will be a few big trees and lots of saplings. That is a 100% fully grown pic of the woods.

Note: It is nowhere near completion and it still has lots of work.

[Ceafus 88 1,794]

So far good progress.

[bahamd81 156]

Actually, this is won't take too long, I'll have it on the STEX in a few days. Any props you want me to add to the woods? Right now it has very few and I want to know what would be good to add.

--Bahamd81

[nathanthemayor 1,261]

I suggest that you get rid of a couple of those trees, because it looks a little crowded. Other than that, looks good!

[bahamd81 156]

Here's my second attempt, it has less trees, but still a lot:

[Ceafus 88 1,794]

looks better, i like it.

[bahamd81 156]

I am working on this, and also a surprise project (It's a surprise, I'm not going to tell you what it is)! The woods could be released tomorrow if I get good reviews on my second attempt. I might re-release my old Parking Lots if I can get them to save.

I will make some lots in the future, I still dont have enough experience for requests though. Maybe even one day, I'll make BATs! But that won't be soon.

My old Parking Lots weren't good at all, I was younger when I released those. Now with a good deal of LE experience I can make more than just Parking Lots.

--Bahamd81, I'm sure you guys are excited about the Surprise Project!

[Ceafus 88 1,794]

Here are the stumps, you don't have to give me credit for them., i'm also excited about the surprise.

Stump.zip

Stump.bmp

  Edited June 12, 2011 by Frex_Ceafus  

[bahamd81 156]

Unfortunately, the stump wouldn't work, it would've been great in my woods! It says the folder is invalid. I am still planning to release my woods, I am going to mix up the types of trees in my 3rd attempt because my current one only has oak and maple trees. I will add pine and spruce trees to my third attempt, which could be my release if I get positive Reviews.

--Thanks for making the stump, but Unfortunately it didn't work I wish it did!

But anyways, I am going to continue my third attempt. It'll be on here in about 30ish minutes.

[bahamd81 156]

Here comes my third attempt, it has several new types of trees! This one is the one that might be released. If I get at least 3 positive reviews I will release it.

--Bahamd81

[bahamd81 156]

I decided to release my woods set right now.

[zahrul3 471]

Use CP vol 01 trees for the woods, they're semiseasonal, comes in building family and downloading CP Proppack vol 02 adds fellen logs and growable trees. Because they come in a building family(only, because it would make it boring), it comes in lots of variation so you never see the same woods twice! CP vol 01 also has cars, picnic tables, flowers and a pond to complement that, supposedly it was made for Mattb's houses and CJers who DIY their lots(Simcitier).

[bahamd81 156]

Nice idea but I don't want to have any dependencies on this file. I released it already (too late for v1) but I might use those in v2, which I will release after I finish my current Surprise Project. Anyway, you can download the woods set here: Woods Set v1

Bahamd81

[bahamd81 156]

My surprise project is coming out today or tomorrow, I still can't tell you what it is, it's a surprise!

[Ceafus 88 1,794]

i can't wait to see it.

[bahamd81 156]

Still more work needed with the surprise project, The Large International Airport will be started soon, v2 of woods lots is going to come out within the next week, and Public Parking Lot v4 could be released sooner or later.

--Bahamd81

[bahamd81 156]

Surprise! Even though I have talked about a surprise project I haven't said what it is. Here it is, an Extra Large Park "Green". Very similar to the original Large Park Green except I added a ranger station and several more props to the lot. Hope you like it, I will release this if I get positive replies. I really enjoy lotting and I could become a good lotter. Uses just plain old Maxis props, I don't want to use anyone else's props in lots I relase here on the STEx.

--Bahamd81, and if you want me to improve it, I will do so, this is NOT the final attempt, but I [personally] like it

I forgot to include the picture, here it is:

[zahrul3 471]

>.>

The reaason you have dependancies is, to make the lot look better than it actually is and makes up for a lack of lotting skills. After all, in the end, you need to download dependancies when you encounter PEG's MTP set and a pleathora of BSC and SG homes. Unless you're extremely pro at lotting or the BAT doesn't need a lot(JasonCW's Gardener Center), I suggest you have dependancies. Conpare wwetom's CJ with some random CJ in the CJ section with low ratings. You'll see thr difference. Dependency props come in builsing families so it variates itself randomly so lots ALWAYS look different.

[Ceafus 88 1,794]

Awesome!!

[bahamd81 156]

Ok, I am going to release it, it's a park, and thank you Frex_Ceafus for your great reviews, I will release this park now. I recieved a 3.5 (actually not bad) rating on the Woods Set, my highest ever. It does have one simple little Dependency: the SG Mega Props or whatever it is called. I am trying to get 4* on this one, so hope you like it, here is my final pic of it:

[Gringamuyloca 47]

It is nice... but that orange blanket is just a little too "LOUD"...and maybe a titch 'busy'... but the concept is great.

I like the fact that you have 'delved' into custom content... it would be more reassuring for you to state the proper name of any dependencies.. just more professional.

It is awesome that you take the time to share your creations... for the best ratings, take time to explore and discover why the best rated lots HAVE the best ratings.

[bahamd81 156]

What do you guys mean by "busy"? I don't understand what you guys mean. I had a couple reviews on the STEX saying the same thing about it. Why am I only getting like 3* ratings? I try my best because I want a really good rating, like most things on the STEX. The reason I use so few dependencies is because I don't want you guys to have to download like 10 files. I hate dependencies myself.

My latest project is a Large International Airport, have you noticed in the game, if you don't have any airport downloads, all 3 of the Airports are called "Small" Airports? Well, I am making a Large International Airport, like Heathrow, JFK, Dallas Fort-Worth, Chicago O'Hare, they are some examples. Large International Airports are for huge cities of at least 300k people. I think it should have lots of additional props that will make it look "Large". I look forward to showing you my first attempt picture, I am getting a fair amount of posts on my thread.

I thank you for helping me with these by reccomending dependencies, I hope I can use that Airport Pack that has loads of cool airport props like Terminals, Trams, etc. This Airport is going to take longer than anything else I have done so far.

--Bahamd81

[T Wrecks 10,209]

"Busy" normally means that a lot is crowded with (too) many small objects so that it looks cluttered, and the eyes can't really focus on the entire thing.

I guess the reason you get mediocre ratings is that the kind of stuff you are making (park lots with only Maxis stuff) has been done to death for the last 8 years running... I appreciate your enthusiasm, and of course all the stuff is new for you. It isn't even bad, but you suffer from the fact that others have already been where you are and made what you are making.

If you want to get better ratings, there are two ways:

A) You stick to Maxis props and find something that hasn't been done already (should be hard because thousands of users have been creative for many, many years before you)

B) You make something that's not new as a concept, but you implement it with better props (read: dependencies) than all stuff that has been released before - or with a better composition of props.

Remember that using dependencies doesn't automatically mean using a truckload of them at once. Quite often, using the right few dependencies on the one hand and some talent (you do it better than others) & creativity (you do it differently) on the other is the key to a real STEX hit.

[bahamd81 156]

I hope that nobody else has done a large airport on the STEX. I don't want to just ditch this project if it was already made, I will just use some dependencies to make it cool. I'm sorry, I can't lot so great, I am just trying my best. I don't want to use somebody else's stuff though! I would like a moderator to help me BAT, if I could BAT I would get Great Ratings. Lots don't get nearly as high ratings as BATs do, because they are usually original and better. I have tried to open the BAT, but I don't understand "The Grid" nor do I understand all those hard terms (splines, mesh editing, extruding!) I wish I could BAT like most other people on ST can. I've tried several tutorials and It is still hard. I really want to know how to BAT.

--Bahamd81, I'm not any good at lotting, am I?

[bahamd81 156]

Scratch this thread, go to my new Plugin thread here: https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/topic/44048-bahamd81s-plugin-thread/page__p__1164255

[bahamd81 156]

I have decided to return this thread because ST Moderators said I should have multiple threads.

I am currently working on a Large International Airport, sorry I didn't update last night, I will update later tonight.