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Its probably best if you watch this for yourself if you haven't seen it already:

How to lose friends and alienate countries

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After 116 Canadian military personel have given their lives in Afganistan. Fox news belittles and mocks the Canadian military. Claim they did not even know they were there. These are the people who keep Americans up to date and mis-informed.quote>

The spectacularly stupid and offensive Fox News show Red Eye with host Greg Gufeld (above) sunk to new depths this week by belittling a neighbor and ally in the so-called war on terrorism. Although Canada opted out of involvement in Iraq, they have been in Afghanistan since 2002. Originally slated to leave in 2009, the Canadian government has extended the Afghan mission to 2011. At least one of the guests claimed he didn't know Canadian forces were in Afghanistan, which is typical of the expertise on the show. Certainly, conservative radio host Monica Crowley wasn't out of place.

An ill-considered and ill-timed bit of idiocy it was too, as yesterday four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight wounded near Kandahar.quote>


In my opinion Canadians don't even have a reason for being in Afghanistan, they're just there to help the Americans fight the War on Terror. Same goes for the rest of the countries involved in the NATO mission.

Canadian soldiers are also located in a much more troublesome region in the country, and suffer 20x more casualties than the Americans on average. Considering that Canada has about 1/10 the population of the US, and a significantly smaller military, this is a pretty high death rate for a 21st century conflict.

All this video does is spread hate, and not just to Canada. They mock Europe for relying on the US for protection and state that the US is the "most powerful country in the universe". I'm sure this would anger anyone in the world, including many Americans that don't share the opinons of these narrow-minded, so-called "comedians".

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Heh. That was hilarious. 18.gif Politically incorrect, certainly, but hilarious.

I don't see how it's really worthy of offense. I mean, it's humor. You're allowed to poke fun at people for the sake of humor. If it was serious in tone, then yes, it would be offensive. But it's not serious, it's satirical.

Some people just can't take a joke.


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Oh for the love of god...my internet window crashed after that long response...

To rephrase what I just lost,

I am personally ashamed by such ignorant and insensitive comments. Americans should strongly resist people like this and Rush Limbaugh becoming voices of America. They put us in a bad light and do not represent the majority of morally responsible Americans.

edit: I do have to say some of the stuff is pretty funny, but the comedians still come across as ignorant to me.

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and state that the US is the "most powerful country in the universe".quote>

I don't mean to sound rude, but factually, that is an accurate statement. Do you know another country that has the military capability to destroy the entire world 7 times over? The closest would be Russia, but since the demise of the Soviet Union, they no longer have that capability.


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HA HA wow could that be anymore of a steriotypical American......not saying that all Americans are like that, because that is comedy show (i think) As for "America is the most powerful nation in the Universe" well i had a long laugh at that. Go Canada!!! 3.gif

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Haha comedy at its finest, I absolutely love this show. 18.gif

For those of you, and the commentators whose uptight responses you posted, this show is a comedy routine; just like the much adored (and hysterical) Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, etc. This is in no way meant to be real news show which is exactly why it is on usually at midnight or one in the morning on weekends. They take the news and make jokes and give commentory that is amusing, what's so harmful about that?

Jeez, if we don't lighten up and give up this politcal correctness garbage then we will be a very sad society indeed. Whatever happened to just laughing at a good joke? The news is just filled with crisis, doom and gloom; so I say the more comedy the better.

Just out of curosity, can you post the link to where those ridiculous comments came from? "At least one of the guests claimed he didn't know Canadian forces were in Afghanistan, which is typical of the expertise on the show." Comedians aren't experts on anything and never claim to be, distorting fact to get a laugh comes with the job. Sounds like this is just another salvo against those "conservative bigots" that are surely running Fox news in a Republican undercover scheme. /sarcasm Are you going to tell me that Stephen Colbert has never made a joke about Canadians? I'm sure he has, it's just ok when he does it.

This is just plain silly. 20.gif

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I'm a avid watcher of Fox, and it is my main source, though I also watch a fair amount of CNN for other opinion, since I know where both come from in the political view.

Now let's see when the show starts. 3 A.M. eastern time for weekdays, repeats at 12 Am for weekends. Now really that should be your first answer. A main stream news show such as Bill O'Reilly, or Ac 360, will be on say evening, not 3 A.M., and if a show is on at 3 A.M. it's not really suppose to be taken as highly as the show that comes at 7, or at prime time.

Besides that the show has a obvious format of making fun of each other, making jokes, and frankly being Politically incorrect. Pretty much everything they say involves some sort of joke, bad, or good, and correct, or incorrect. It's a comedy show, and like all other shows as such they make fun, they make jokes that poke fun, and sometimes they cross the line, and really they don't care.

Now if this was say on a major American news show, CBS prime time news, or anything else. Then yes, that would be over the line, they are expected to give us the news, and keep us up to date, and such a comment is both Rude, annoying and frankly irresponsible of such a agency. Though if that did happen I would be sicken if suddenly Canadians, or any other group started looking down on Americans themselves, since that would be just as bad, Rude, stereotypical, and frankly just insult the American people.

My opinion on all this, remember people , it's a comedy show for a reason. Besides that the summary of this thread lies, it wasn't Fox News, it was a fox show which is meant to be controversial, called red eye, this just players into the whole 'Fox bigot' view.

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Originally posted by: Dark_Jedi06

Haha comedy at its finest, I absolutely love this show. 18.gif

For those of you, and the commentators whose uptight responses you posted, this show is a comedy routine; just like the much adored (and hysterical) Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, etc. This is in no way meant to be real news show which is exactly why it is on usually at midnight or one in the morning on weekends. They take the news and make jokes and give commentory that is amusing, what's so harmful about that?

Jeez, if we don't lighten up and give up this politcal correctness garbage then we will be a very sad society indeed. Whatever happened to just laughing at a good joke? The news is just filled with crisis, doom and gloom; so I say the more comedy the better.

Just out of curosity, can you post the link to where those ridiculous comments came from? "At least one of the guests claimed he didn't know Canadian forces were in Afghanistan, which is typical of the expertise on the show." Comedians aren't experts on anything and never claim to be, distorting fact to get a laugh comes with the job. Sounds like this is just another salvo against those "conservative bigots" that are surely running Fox news in a Republican undercover scheme. /sarcasm Are you going to tell me that Stephen Colbert has never made a joke about Canadians? I'm sure he has, it's just ok when he does it.

This is just plain silly. 20.gif

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It's one thing to poke fun at other countries stereotypes and exaggerate them for comedic value.. but it's rude and completely insensitive to the families of the lost soldiers when the "comedians" essentially brush off their contributions as useless. We've been fighting with relatively little support in one of the most dangerous areas of Afghanistan for 7 years.. And to compound things, 4 Canadian soldiers were killed just a day or two after this aired.

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I read recently read a great quote:

I want news, dammit! Not punditry!

~ Zelgadis quote>

The key word here is "news"

1. a report of a recent event; intelligence; information: His family has had no news of his whereabouts for months.
2. the presentation of a report on recent or new events in a newspaper or other periodical or on radio or television.
3. such reports taken collectively; information reported: There's good news tonight.
4. a person, thing, or event considered as a choice subject for journalistic treatment; newsworthy material.
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Some idiot's person's opinion is not news. It is merely that person's opinion.

It is not news that Britney Spears is touring again or that Michael Jackson is selling his hat.

Jokes and satires are not news. That is what programs like Saturday Night Live are for, not serious news shows.

If people want to discuss their opinions or follow Britney on her tour or joke around, have at it. Just don't call it news.

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They mock Europe for relying on the US for protection and state that the US is the "most powerful country in the universe".quote>

I don't mean to sound rude, but factually, that is an accurate statement. Do you know another country that has the military capability to destroy the entire world 7 times over? The closest would be Russia, but since the demise of the Soviet Union, they no longer have that capability.quote>

That is, at best, factually ambiguous. It is a fact that militarily the US is the most powerful state on Earth. In the entire Universe? Probably not.

Jeez, if we don't lighten up and give up this politcal correctness garbage then we will be a very sad society indeed. Whatever happened to just laughing at a good joke?quote>

If you're offended by a joke, and you're the subject of the joke, how can you laugh at it? I believe we will become a very sad society if we cease to respond to statements that we would consider insults.

I'm a avid watcher of Fox, and it is my main source, though I also watch a fair amount of CNN for other opinion, since I know where both come from in the political view.

Now let's see when the show starts. 3 A.M. eastern time for weekdays, repeats at 12 Am for weekends. Now really that should be your first answer. A main stream news show such as Bill O'Reilly, or Ac 360, will be on say evening, not 3 A.M., and if a show is on at 3 A.M. it's not really suppose to be taken as highly as the show that comes at 7, or at prime time.quote>

Don't know about Bill O'Reilly. I've seen some insulting comments on that show as well. I mostly watch MSNBC, Fox News, and CNBC. I'm a (mostly) regular watcher of the Glenn Beck Program, the Cost of Freedom block, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, The Kudlow Report, Countdown with Keith Olbermann, and The Rachel Maddow Show.

Some idiot's person's opinion is not news. It is merely that person's opinion.quote>

I have no problem with talk shows, or news anchors giving their opinion, so long as it isn't masquerading as news. Now, I don't know about Red Eye, as I've never seen it, or even heard of it until now.

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Originally posted by: Patricius Maximus

I have no problem with talk shows, or news anchors giving their opinion, so long as it isn't masquerading as news.

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Exactly. There is a lot of stuff out there that is masquerading as news. There is a huge difference between airing the above clip on Comedy Central and airing it with a "Fox News" logo at the bottom.

I enjoy the "Weekend Update" segment on Saturday Night Live (and, yeah, I know that the show is decades past its prime) but it has always been clear that it is not pretending to be an actual news program.


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So what if the US is the most powerful country? How they use and do things is what matters.

Jeez, if we don't lighten up and give up this political correctness garbage then we will be a very sad society indeed. Whatever happened to just laughing at a good joke?quote>

In some ways political correctness is way too much, and I think at least from what I've noticed around me it's died down a bit. Nothing's happened to laughing at a good joke, just that I didn't see that as a joke(it may have been intended to be, but I didn't see it)

If that had been against say a Religion, say Islam, there would have been a massive uproar. But as it is just against Europe and Canada it doesn't matter(this is where political correctness need a lot of tightening on one end and a lot of loosing on the other)

Also the US maybe the most powerful country, but if the other countries were to simply cut off from US, it would be bad for them as well.

I think that the people who made this video should be sent out there to fight. There are a lot of people that need to brought down from their cloud to Earth.

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Originally posted by: SkiGeek

Some idiot's person's opinion is not news. It is merely that person's opinion.

It is not news that Britney Spears is touring again or that Michael Jackson is selling his hat.

Jokes and satires are not news. That is what programs like Saturday Night Live are for, not serious news shows.

If people want to discuss their opinions or follow Britney on her tour or joke around, have at it. Just don't call it news.quote>

It's not news when you got in the bed

It's not news when somebody slaps you

It's not news when you're looking your best

Come one, come on, come on give it a rest

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Well I'm not surprised by FOX, they have always been the channel that only furthers the impression that America and Americans in general are incredibly ignorant, rude and generally unworthy of any respect.

I am fully aware that not all Americans share the views of FOX, but the fact remains a good many do. I like comedy and parody. but I think there is a fine line between comedy and insult. America should be grateful they are having any assistance in Afghanistan whatsoever and should respect those nations that are helping them and dying alongside their soldiers. Would appear the ego that some Americans carry round with them gives them the false understanding they are the greatest thing on earth, when the fact is very much different.

As for the Europe issue, correct me, but if Americans believe they are the greatest military force on earth then why are they seeking to build bridges and seeking greater NATO assistance? If America wants some more respect and co-operation then a change in tone is somewhat called for.

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If that had been against say a Religion, say Islam, there would have been a massive uproar. But as it is just against Europe and Canada it doesn't matter(this is where political correctness need a lot of tightening on one end and a lot of loosing on the other) quote>

Ohh, we have tons of programs like this, but they don't pretend to be real news..

Don't expect an uproar from Europe, we are used to that kind of programs 17.gif


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Originally posted by: belfastuniguy

I think there is a fine line between comedy and insult. America should be grateful they are having any assistance in Afghanistan whatsoever and should respect those nations that are helping them and dying alongside their soldiers. quote>

...except that this isn't "America" making those comments. It's a few guys on TV looking to generate laughs.

Would appear the ego that some Americans carry round with them gives them the false understanding they are the greatest thing on earth, when the fact is very much different. quote>

Being a superpower does tend to breed ego, that's true. But a lot of it is simple national pride. Is thinking that your country, your home, is a great thing so wrong? I'm sure many other countries also have pride in themselves. It's only natural.

As for the Europe issue, correct me, but if Americans believe they are the greatest military force on earth then why are they seeking to build bridges and seeking greater NATO assistance? quote>

Hey, even the greatest and most powerful can't do everything by themselves.

If America wants some more respect and co-operation then a change in tone is somewhat called for. quote>

The fact of the matter is that there is a disconnect here: what the American public says and does is mostly out of the government's control (first amendment...). I wouldn't say the attitudes of the American people are necessarily representative of the attitudes of our government. Just look at what happened with Bush. We all really hated him by the time he left office. And Obama already isn't hyperpopular savior of all humanity that everyone thought he would be. Such is the nature of these things.

As for humility... yeah, we could use some of that, but the problem is no one wants to admit that they're not better than everyone else.

It is problematic, though, when in every negotion it's "hey, come along with us" not "hey, let's work together" - talking down to everyone as oppsed to engaging them as equals, throwing our weight around like crazy to get our way.

It really serves to demonstrate that the more power someone has, the more they'll become corrupted by it, and the more they'll abuse it. As the saying goes, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."


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Originally posted by: belfastuniguy

Well I'm not surprised by FOX, they have always been the channel that only furthers the impression that America and Americans in general are incredibly ignorant, rude and generally unworthy of any respect.

I am fully aware that not all Americans share the views of FOX, but the fact remains a good many do. I like comedy and parody. but I think there is a fine line between comedy and insult. America should be grateful they are having any assistance in Afghanistan whatsoever and should respect those nations that are helping them and dying alongside their soldiers. Would appear the ego that some Americans carry round with them gives them the false understanding they are the greatest thing on earth, when the fact is very much different.

As for the Europe issue, correct me, but if Americans believe they are the greatest military force on earth then why are they seeking to build bridges and seeking greater NATO assistance? If America wants some more respect and co-operation then a change in tone is somewhat called for.

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Oh Micheal, Micheal, can you please step down off your high horse for a moment? May I ask when was the last time, or how often, you watch the FOX news channel? And snippits posted on Youtube blatantly removed from their context don't count. So please don't start with this garbage about how terrible, corrupt and right-wing FOX is because it simply isn't true, I watch it daily and I think you know me well enough that I would not fall prey to such extreme bias if that were the case.

As to the comedy itself, I only question why you're taking the comments by comedians as actual stances on the issues being discussed? It is one thing to debate the ego of the United States, its stance on Europe, the war in Afghanistan, etc. when you're confronted with someone who truely espouses those views, but for godsakes these people are after laughs and are blatantly using stereotypes to make a funny joke! They are not parading as a reliable source of news or political commentary nor are they in any way showing these views to be their own as their voices are dripping with sarcasm at some points. I have watched Red Eye enough to tell that the people on this show will say anything and everything if they think it will make the audience laugh, irrespective of their own views.

Your views on the topics they raise are moot and not related to the discussion at hand, which is the nature of the comedy routine itself. While I'm sure if I were a Canadian whose loved one had been killed in Afghanistan I wouldn't find this funny, we can't let such niceties get in the way of a good joke, otherwise no one will be laughing at anything anymore. And without jokes at other people's expense there really isn't anything to live for, now is there?

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Hmm, that isn't very funny, but because we live in a mostly free society that so far hasn't been completely killed off by political correctness im afraid Im just going have to live the the bad and stupid joke, and just move on with my life. 48.gif

Also to all those who keep dissing fox.

Ill admit, it's a more right leaning, and though it has many people in the center, it is More right then left. But what you all seem to suddenly not be aware of is that NBC, and even more so MSNBC are just as bad, if not worse! CNN, well that's in the center, but there kinda leaning towards the left.

So what have we learned here today kitties? No News is completely unbiased! That's why we have brains, and the Ability to think of things, and have are own opinions! Don't like it? deal with it, change the channel to a place you would rather agree with. I would encourage you to diverse your view, but that's your choice.

But really, there are nuts, MSNBC at the front. Or do we have to start talking about the "tingly feeling in my leg" comment? And really considering the democratic primary, aswell the general election Fox was probably more in the center then the other two by a longshot.

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Being a superpower does tend to breed ego, that's true. But a lot of it is simple national pride. Is thinking that your country, your home, is a great thing so wrong? I'm sure many other countries also have pride in themselves. It's only natural.quote>

Patriotism and national pride are usually good things, but arrogance is not.

Well I'm not surprised by FOX, they have always been the channel that only furthers the impression that America and Americans in general are incredibly ignorant, rude and generally unworthy of any respect.

I am fully aware that not all Americans share the views of FOX, but the fact remains a good many do.quote>

Oh Micheal, Micheal, can you please step down off your high horse for a moment? May I ask when was the last time, or how often, you watch the FOX news channel? And snippits posted on Youtube blatantly removed from their context don't count. So please don't start with this garbage about how terrible, corrupt and right-wing FOX is because it simply isn't true, I watch it daily and I think you know me well enough that I would not fall prey to such extreme bias if that were the case.quote>

Also to all those who keep dissing fox.

Ill admit, it's a more right leaning, and though it has many people in the center, it is More right then left. But what you all seem to suddenly not be aware of is that NBC, and even more so MSNBC are just as bad, if not worse! CNN, well that's in the center, but there kinda leaning towards the left.quote>

Alright, I'll throw in my view on the particular biases of different news networks.

With every news network, it depends on what show you watch, but there are general inclinations.

Fox: Far-right (Hannity) to Centrist (Fox Report)

CNN: Center (Situation Room) to Center-left (No Bias, No Bull)

MSNBC: Left of Center (Hardball) to Farther Left (Countdown)

CNBC: Usually leaning laissez-faire economically, right of center politically

So what have we learned here today kitties? No News is completely unbiased! That's why we have brains, and the Ability to think of things, and have are own opinions! Don't like it? deal with it, change the channel to a place you would rather agree with. I would encourage you to diverse your view, but that's your choice.quote>

I'm aware of that. You're aware of that. But most people I've seen aren't aware of that, which is a pathetic thing. Once I've seen a particular program for a while, I figure out the biases, and take all the news and opinions presented in that context.

But really, there are nuts, MSNBC at the front...quote>

MSNBC and Fox have the most nuts, Keith Olbermann being nutty, and on Fox Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. There is a rather fair share of nuts between them, but Olbermann is the most seen on Fox, at least according to my daily viewing.

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Originally posted by: Dark_Jedi06

Oh Micheal, Micheal, can you please step down off your high horse for a moment?

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Let's remember to discuss the issues and not each other.


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Personally I think Maddow, Olbermann, and Matthews to a extent are far left. Hannity would be the most far-right on Fox, I think Beck is somewhat centrist, though Right, while O'Reilly is also more center compared to back and Hannity, but Right. The More center shows come with the Fox Report, Fox news Sunday, Cavuto and his show. MSNBC's lesser programming is more towards the center. But what gets me is just pure lack of a conservative presence in there Programming, just like I wish there would be a more Liberal show on fox, atleast at some point to spread it around, though they have some democrats.

You could also say theres a reason why Fox is actually doing so well ratings wise, because there are many in America who agree with some of there points, and what they tell in there news. It better serves them than what they view as the 'liberal' media. Though many still have there own opinions on many matters it does Represent a large part of America, though ill remind, that the views expressed by the people on the news are still theres, and not everyones else.

But for all there leanings, the saddest part isn't the Failure of a network to just give the news, unbiased, but the fact that many people who are watching can't make up there own opinion. Which was one of the biggest problems with the media this election season, and in general for the American people. There inability to decide for themselves.

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I don't find any comedy in this, if it was supposed to make me laugh, then it failed miserably, these idiots are offensive, crass and rude. There is no reason for comedy to be offensive.


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as far as I'm concerned, Fox Noise is the voice of any sane American, and why anyone outside the US think so is beyond me. This is the network that supports the author (Mann Coulter) who called the widows and familes of 9-11 victims "money hungry" and accused them of being attention whores. The same network that tried to get a rise out or people when it was discovered that Obama's middle name just happened to be Hussein..or that he messed around with "unfavorable" people and even had someone on one of their shows who said they wish Obama gets assassinated. They are supporters of treasonous people like Lush Rimjob who wish that our president (and our country and its people cause they go hand-in-hand) fail..but say something negative about George II or Lord Reagan and prepare to get crucified. Their sense of class really shows on their talking heads shows when someone has an opposing opinion, the host has a scream fit and even turns off their mic...its supposed to be a debate, not a screaming match. They are anything but fair and balanced and just like the GOP, they are out of touch.

Fox is to the US what Al Jazeera is to the Arab world.

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Originally posted by: Barbarossa

Originally posted by: greedygreg...the author (Mann Coulter)...quote>

LOL, I think you read my signature...

Originally posted by: greedygreg...Lush Rimjob...quote>

Nice, I like that one, although I prefer "drug-addled gas-bag"* personally.

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*Courtesy the Stephanie Miller Show

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I did read your sig, but I heard that name long before I came back to Simtrop..glad someone agrees with me. 18.gif we could go on all day with nicknames and adjectives, but I'm not gonna push it.

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First of all I've read every one of these replies and opinions and I will say agree with at least half of them, mostly the ones that arn't so anti-american and that arn't attacking the right wings. I'm probably, behind the keyboard, goin to be called a right - winged biggot or an arrogant american for sayin this... but all this doesn't surprise me. People are always looking for the littlest excuse to bring the United States down. They always seem to be hunting for anything at all no matter how small it is to make us all look bad and get everyone else in the world to judge us and assume we are all the same bloodsucking, egotystical, power-hungry American. Those comments wern't that bad people get over it and move on. I've heard so much worse about the USA on other countries news networks and other media sources. Even other western nations and other civilizations have been the victim to some of these networks. I'm sure even in Canada or the UK people on live air have made thier own little coments about us yankees themselves. Im also saying that this isn't a particular set of people who do this such as Canadians or Europeans, but the world. Probably 3/4 of the planet who are not American have some kind of duscust or dislike for the USA. Its all probably because of one reason - a stupid reason. We are simply the most powerful country on the planet with out a doubt. I AM NOT SAYING THE UNIVERSE, for the people who used that one guys comment out of porportion, but the planet. It's jealousy and envy. I would be jealous to if I live in the mid-east or Southeast Asia or any other area of the world for that matter if I knew that the poorest people in America are as rich as the middle class in my country. And yes it is nationalism 100% to the Americans who make those comments like in the video. They're proud of where this country has come and its position in the world. We are probably the protector of the North American continent and half of the European continent(with the help of NATO). Also there's always been that joke here in the US that we should invade Canada and get it over with. It's just a joke. Our people and our goverment have absolutly now nor never will have the desire to do so. I don't even no why people still hate us and won't deal with the fact we are number 1. If anything, we make the world better. If anything you should be grateful to us! What do you think hindered the Soviet Union from ever expanding into Europe even further than they did in the 70's(with help from NATO of course!) or goin further into Afghanistan, or ever trying it again futher along the timeline. In WWII, England, France, Australia, China and Russia and everyone else just about on that side would of eventually lost. When we went in Europe at the last minute, and into the Pacific to fight off Japan, we changed the direction dramatically. Also another example would be who do you think is holding the Chinese back from invading Taiwan and other East Asian nations. It has always been us and the United Kingdom on that issue too. If you don't like us then that's tough. Just move on there's nothing you can do about it. By the way, I happen to love Canada. Yall have an extremely beautiful country and a clean one too! May God bless those souls and the families of those from Canada that died in the War on Terror.

~Fat Zach~

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Wow, that wasn't really funny at all. Don't get me wrong, I love making fun of Europe or Canada, but that segment was an epic failure.

BTW Barbarossa, I love that sig... "Mann Coulter" 3.gif

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Probably 3/4 of the planet who are not American have some kind of duscust or dislike for the USA. quote>

The US still controls the major part of the cultural influence in a big part of the world (movies, music...) and is seen as an example to follow, all that hate stories have been blown out of proportion, I fail to see any constant hatred against the US over here (and there are reasons for grief)

It's jealousy and envyquote>

hum.. not really....

If anything you should be grateful to us!quote>

Hmmmm, not every country has had a good history with the US....

Also another example would be who do you think is holding the Chinese back from invading Taiwan and other East Asian nations.quote>

Other eastern asian nations? I don't seriously think China has any plans on invading Korea or Japan 17.gif


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