Man beheaded on bus.

[fukuda 351]

Disgusting....

I was also seeing now much time it would take for someone to talk about dealth penalty

[un1 41]

That's awful. I feel like screaming, not only is it disgusting but sad to. I would hate to be the family of the victim.

The one thing is that... That bus was heading for Thunder Bay, Ontario. I don't wan't that maniac in my town!!

-un1

[Deionn 137]

H. O. R. R. I. B. L . E.

He needs to be gullotined. Sorry, Taking it back medieval style. Even better. Tortured and repaired.

Damn basterds! What's wrong with these people! Earth is a sad and cold place. *Sigh*

[luudan 6]

god damn.....scary

[underwearman2007 0]

see, this is why i'm afraid of sharp objects

and that guy is f***ed up

really f***ed up

[screamingman12 30]

He probably had Anti-social personality disorder or something like that. I don't wnat to think what might have happened if he had a gun...

[hym 358]

I have to admit that it sucks to die in such a fashion, though it seems rather strange that a dude would so seemingly randomly and calmly just slaughter the person sitting next to him.

[JanYpe 17]

Originally posted by: Red1530

Originally posted by: saltandsauce these are the kind of people that should get the death penatly, for sick twisted people like this. This has little motive and was completley revoulting.

where did he get a knife like that?quote>

Unfortunately this is Canada, so there is no death penalty.  Also their was no one on the bus armed with a handgun because the Canadian government has disarmed its citizens.quote>

Because discharging a handgun inside a moving bus, packed with other people, is a completely safe and effective course of action. And failing that the, quite clearly deranged, stabber should have been gunned down like a rabid dog. The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities. 

[krbe 193]

Originally posted by: JanYpe Because discharging a handgun inside a moving bus, packed with other people, is a completely safe and effective course of action. And failing that the, quite clearly deranged, stabber should have been gunned down like a rabid dog. The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities. quote>

You and your principles. When did we become that civilised, that we'd like to see all that power divided?

No, give me some weapons, and let me assume my rightful place.

[coolotter88 2]

it's true, the man was a danger to the passengers every person has the right to their own safety

besides, what trial do you need? 50 people saw the guy take out a knife, stab the victim, and cut off the head.

"wait no, it's possible that there was a second stabber on the grassy knoll and the man on the bus was not the real killer."

[Deionn 137]

He's gonna get haunted. It could have been a plan like coolotter. Too get everyone off the bus and rob em or slaughter them. You never know why. Always be careful. I would have broken the law in this case, I don't trust huge moving aluminum-steel contraptions with 10-60 people on board. Hell naws. I don't go to sleep in public places either.

[fukuda 351]

Originally posted by: deion30296 I don't trust huge moving aluminum-steel contraptions with 10-60 people on board. quote>

Hope you're not going to fly on a plane, then

[Voar Tok 4]

Originally posted by: JanYpe

Originally posted by: Red1530

Originally posted by: saltandsauce these are the kind of people that should get the death penatly, for sick twisted people like this. This has little motive and was completley revoulting.

where did he get a knife like that?quote>

Unfortunately this is Canada, so there is no death penalty.  Also their was no one on the bus armed with a handgun because the Canadian government has disarmed its citizens.quote>

Because discharging a handgun inside a moving bus, packed with other people, is a completely safe and effective course of action. And failing that the, quite clearly deranged, stabber should have been gunned down like a rabid dog. The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities. quote>

Because as we all know, when someone is killing someone else right in front of you, you should just sit there and think "sucks for them!" at let them die.

[mancoolman 3]

Originally posted by: Voar Tok

Originally posted by: JanYpe

Originally posted by: Red1530

Originally posted by: saltandsauce these are the kind of people that should get the death penatly, for sick twisted people like this. This has little motive and was completley revoulting.

where did he get a knife like that?quote>

Unfortunately this is Canada, so there is no death penalty.  Also their was no one on the bus armed with a handgun because the Canadian government has disarmed its citizens.quote>

Because discharging a handgun inside a moving bus, packed with other people, is a completely safe and effective course of action. And failing that the, quite clearly deranged, stabber should have been gunned down like a rabid dog. The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities. quote>

Because as we all know, when someone is killing someone else right in front of you, you should just sit there and think "sucks for them!" at let them die. quote>

 

I agree entirely, (with the wait for the guys trained how to use guns idea NOT the looking at the guy going bet that hurts) I think life in prison is worse than dying. And as much as I don't trust a clearly mentally unstable man with a knife I trust a bus full of gun totting heroes less. If someone had had a gun and no training they would have probably panicked shot at the guy maybe hit him. But more likely hit someone around him. 

PLUS, never trust in the hero in plain clothes idea 99.99% of people think they're tuff but when the s**t hits the fan they never have there gogles, on and run away with their eyes covered like everyone else.

(Final side note, even though I said there are no heroes that excludes me because just like Duke Nukem "I've got balls of steel")

[underwearman2007 0]

I'm sereous, that guy must have been an insain asylum escapee with one f***ed up head

damn

[kawan 6]

...utter, utter insanity. That has to be rarer than a terrorist attack...maybe the first time something like this happened, I think? Totally out of the blue.

[Danlikebooks 6]

Come one people, you have a MUCH larger chance of being attacked (and possibly killed) just walking down the street.  No need to be afraid of buses.  I ride one at least once a week, and nothing has happened on one before.

[Smarty218 2]

Originally posted by: beebs

Originally posted by: Smarty218 Jesus.

I will never ride a bus again.

Ever.

quote>

This is obviously a very isolated incident. Its not like Greyhound buses have beheadings or vicious attacks taking place every other day. You shouldn't let this take you out of your way to avoid their service.quote>

I know, it just scared me. Maybe I've been watching too much CSI and Criminal Minds....

[panthersimcity4 162]

Is it just me or are a lot of heads rolling over this? I hope this issue doesn't cause much severance.

Sorry, I couldn't help it

[mancoolman 3]

Originally posted by: panthersimcity4 Is it just me or are a lot of heads rolling over this? I hope this issue doesn't cause much severance.

Sorry, I couldn't help it quote>

 

weak

[JanYpe 17]

Originally posted by: Voar Tok

Originally posted by: JanYpe

Originally posted by: Red1530

Originally posted by: saltandsauce these are the kind of people that should get the death penatly, for sick twisted people like this. This has little motive and was completley revoulting.

where did he get a knife like that?quote>

Unfortunately this is Canada, so there is no death penalty.  Also their was no one on the bus armed with a handgun because the Canadian government has disarmed its citizens.quote>

Because discharging a handgun inside a moving bus, packed with other people, is a completely safe and effective course of action. And failing that the, quite clearly deranged, stabber should have been gunned down like a rabid dog. The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities. quote>

Because as we all know, when someone is killing someone else right in front of you, you should just sit there and think "sucks for them!" at let them die. quote>

Oh please. You can't seriously believe that you or any wannabe Dirty Harry could have actually shot this psycho, and only him, in a cramped bus while a herd of scared passengers is hauling ass out of the bus. Not even if we do assume that you have a pair of brass ones as well as icewater running through your veins, so that you would have casually noticed the stabbing and had time to react. "Oh deary me, it seems that ruffian is gutting the other fellow like a fish! I shall have to employ my trusty sidearm to pop a cap in his ass."

[coolotter88 2]

yeah, but when psycho comes for you, you're going to pop a cap in his ass. anyway, you underestimate people with guns, I doubt a person would actually miss from 10 feet away.

[raja_indy14 8]

Because as we all know, when someone is killing someone else right in front of you, you should just sit there and think "sucks for them!" at let them die. quote>

because when someone has just been stabbed multiple times in the chest with a hunting knife and then had his head cut off, your first thought is to see if you can render assistance; in this case i think CPR would be a little difficult to perform and a bit redundant.

personally, if i was sitting in a bus and all of a sudden some clearly deranged person beheaded a fellow passenger before my eyes and was armed with a quite vicious knife, i would try to get off that bus as quickly as possible. and as a canadian, i don't think there's anything wrong with us not all carrying guns around - people shouldn't have to prepare for the contingency of shooting crazy murderers in buses; and if it should happen the proper authorities should be called in to deal with it. besides, the passengers did use improvised weapons to trap him on the bus until the police could arrive...

[storms991 0]

Let's hope somebody shoots him!!

Originally posted by: panthersimcity4 Is it just me or are a lot of heads rolling over this? I hope this issue doesn't cause much severance.

Sorry, I couldn't help it quote>

Bad taste...

[dabadon5 295]

It seems you cant go anywhere these days without something bad happening, whether if thats a bus,school,mall,church etc, our world has gone mad !

[Voar Tok 4]

Originally posted by: JanYpe

Originally posted by: Voar Tok

Originally posted by: JanYpe

Originally posted by: Red1530

Originally posted by: saltandsauce these are the kind of people that should get the death penatly, for sick twisted people like this. This has little motive and was completley revoulting.

where did he get a knife like that?quote>

Unfortunately this is Canada, so there is no death penalty.  Also their was no one on the bus armed with a handgun because the Canadian government has disarmed its citizens.quote>

Because discharging a handgun inside a moving bus, packed with other people, is a completely safe and effective course of action. And failing that the, quite clearly deranged, stabber should have been gunned down like a rabid dog. The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities. quote>

Because as we all know, when someone is killing someone else right in front of you, you should just sit there and think "sucks for them!" at let them die. quote>

Oh please. You can't seriously believe that you or any wannabe Dirty Harry could have actually shot this psycho, and only him, in a cramped bus while a herd of scared passengers is hauling ass out of the bus. Not even if we do assume that you have a pair of brass ones as well as icewater running through your veins, so that you would have casually noticed the stabbing and had time to react. "Oh deary me, it seems that ruffian is gutting the other fellow like a fish! I shall have to employ my trusty sidearm to pop a cap in his ass." quote>

A well-crafted and solid argument - even complete with some humor.  Only problem is that my comment had absolutely nothing to do with whether anyone on that bus should have been armed as you so incorrectly assumed.   You said:

The bystanders should have done their duty and played judge, jury and executioner right there and then, instead of locking him in the bus and waiting for the actually responsible authorities.quote>

The point I was making had absolutely nothing to do with whether anyone should have been armed and everything to do with the logic behind this statement.  If someone is attacking you or someone else, provision should be there for making efforts to subdue the attacker with lethal force being a possible last resort if needed.  Regardless of whether anyone really wants to admit it or not, take one quick look at how many people are murdered each year, and there you have how many people who were faced with someone trying to harm them, and the "actually responsible authorities" weren't there in time.  And even the concept of "they can't save everyone" doesn't work, because thousands to millions of people are murdered each year and the "responsible authorities" don't find out about it until after the person is quite dead.

Originally posted by: raja_indy14

Because as we all know, when someone is killing someone else right in front of you, you should just sit there and think "sucks for them!" at let them die. quote>

because when someone has just been stabbed multiple times in the chest with a hunting knife and then had his head cut off, your first thought is to see if you can render assistance; in this case i think CPR would be a little difficult to perform and a bit redundant.quote>

That was even farther off of my point.

personally, if i was sitting in a bus and all of a sudden some clearly deranged person beheaded a fellow passenger before my eyes and was armed with a quite vicious knife, i would try to get off that bus as quickly as possible. and as a canadian, i don't think there's anything wrong with us not all carrying guns around - people shouldn't have to prepare for the contingency of shooting crazy murderers in buses; and if it should happen the proper authorities should be called in to deal with it. besides, the passengers did use improvised weapons to trap him on the bus until the police could arrive...quote>

Which is fine.  I don't advocate that anyone should have had a gun.  I'm not even advocating that they should have tried to stop them since I know most people would rather get away from a place where their life is in danger than stick around.  The problem though that I have with the argument of sitting back and letting the authorities deal with it is because if it something where the intended damage can be done in five minutes or less, odds are good the authorities won't be able to react in time.  I fail to see the logic in the idea that a person shouldn't have the right to defend themselves, or, in this case, try to protect someone else.  "Let me call the cops and hope that they get here before you beat me up and take my money or try to kill me."  That's basically the risk that concept is taking. 

[your_adress_here 11]

They did deal with him. They locked him in the bus.

Dealing with the person doesn't mean killing them.

[fukuda 351]

yeah, but when psycho comes for you, you're going to pop a cap in his assquote>

An armed psycho showing lethal irrational violence? The first reaction of any human is to poop not to pop a cap. The escaping reaction is irrational and instinctive but usually works. The individuals that didn't escape in front of obvious danger were rapidly deselected by natural selection, to say it lightly, that's why heroes are hard to find.

First you escape and, if you can, you try to trap the aggressor avoiding any dangerous physical contact, as the other passengers did. Only a crazy person would try to stop an armed psycho physically while being unarmed.

So now we talk about the armed guys:

anyway, you underestimate people with guns, I doubt a person would actually miss from 10 feet away.quote>

You underestimate the power of fear. So you're an armed guy in the bus, but there are tons of passengers panicking and some trying to get out, unless you are sitting next to the agressed person, your odds are very high to shoot another person instead of the agressor, furthermore, you probably don't have any visual contact with him, and it's difficult to move in the confusion. Not to talk that fear is chemically contagious, and you can start to panic too.

[hamsterTK 93]

I think letting him live for a while might be useful so they can figure out what was up with the guy.

I'd like to know if he had previously been identified as mentally ill/dangerous by the government. More ammunition for the argument that we need to start tracking and medicating these violent froot loops

[coolotter88 2]

that's why they have the manslaughter charge, it's for when it's an accident