ProjectCB Official Board

[simmaster07 1,220]

Originally posted by: TV-VCR

Originally posted by: simmaster07

Originally posted by: TV-VCR SmartRoss1, I don't think this will get very far unless you make "ST:g" from scratch.

13:06

- Joined: Ultraviolet123 (n=*removed*)

- Topic: Official channel of Lincity and Lincity-NG - http://lincity-ng.berlios.de -- CIA is watching us! (Stats on http://cia.vc )

- Set by Mirrakor at 13:29 on Saturday 01 March 2008

- Channel opened at 00:43 on Sunday 26 November 2006

13:07

<Ultraviolet123> I have a question

13:08

<WolfgangB> ok

13:10

<Ultraviolet123> Would it be appropriate for a person to grab LinCity's code, modify it to their will, and then release it as their own game?

13:11

<WolfgangB> absolutely not.

<Ultraviolet123> Ok

<Ultraviolet123> What if they gave credit to the authors (berliOS)

13:12

<WolfgangB> no.

<WolfgangB> btw berlios is not the author but the hoster

<Ultraviolet123> oh

13:13

<Ultraviolet123> Who made it

<Ultraviolet123> ?

13:14

<WolfgangB> mainly the people listed in credits

13:15

<Ultraviolet123> ok, thanks

<Ultraviolet123> cheers

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Who is WolfgangB and why is he telling him modifying the code of LinCity is illegal? I'm sure Lincity is released under the GPL, giving us the right to freely remake and redistribute the game as we please. quote>

He was a channel op in there, and according to the BerliOS site he is a project administrator of Lincity.

Lincity is released under GPL. Here is part of the license:

You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion

of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and

distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1

above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

    a) You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices

    stating that you changed the files and the date of any change.

    b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in

    whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any

    part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third

    parties under the terms of this License.

    c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively

    when run, you must cause it, when started running for such

    interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an

    announcement including an appropriate copyright notice and a

    notice that there is no warranty (or else, saying that you provide

    a warranty) and that users may redistribute the program under

    these conditions, and telling the user how to view a copy of this

    License.  (Exception: if the Program itself is interactive but

    does not normally print such an announcement, your work based on

    the Program is not required to print an announcement.)

quote>

Bear in mind I put that portion of the license there just for reference, not to back up any "claim" I may have made. Actually it seems WolfgangB's thoughts on the matter conflict with the license a little bit.quote>

The license states we may edit the code and redistribute it as we please as long as we state we changed the files, we store a log of all edits made to the program (all of them), it is distributed free of charge, we provide the source code, it carries major edits, provide a notice there is no warranty when running, and that we tell the user how to obtain a copy of the GPL. There is one exception... if our program is interactive but doesn't normally provide an announcement about warranties (which this program wouldn't normally provide that announcement), we don't need to print such an announcement. Yes, I read lawyer. XD

EDIT: oh noes! Dreaded page flip bug!

[simmaster07 1,220]

SmartRoss1: i don't plan on basing the site on Dreamweaver, but PHP instead. i find it more versatile.

[SmartRoss1 0]

TV-VCR: Thank you for that information. Our rights to re-jig the source code and graphics is maintained with the GPL, so that shouldn't be a problem.

simmaster07: Thank you for your offer. I would be delighted to have you take charge of the site. I could give you a hand, as I am rather experienced with Adobe Dreamweaver CS3. Please post a link as soon as you have it online.

Some of these issues are being ironed out, so it shouldn't be long before we really get started.

[CCFC 0]

You guys need help with hosting? I might be able to offer hosting with a few GBs of space.

[CCFC 0]

I like it, maybe it should use a big city picture from SC4, and I'll be willing to give hosting if needed.

[simmaster07 1,220]

There's no need. I've found a host and I'm getting everything set up. The new site should be up and running within a few hours.

[CCFC 0]

Oh, I double posted since it wasn't showing, and good luck. The only thing I could help with was with hosting and very little with the site.

[simmaster07 1,220]

Well, I've got everything set up. CFFC: You could help me set up and administer the boards. Also, the post wasn't showing up because of the dreaded "page flip bug," when a post spawning a new page causes the new page to dissapear. The bug can be fixed with a new post or editing the post at the top of the new page.

[simmaster07 1,220]

Current Website Information

Everything is almost done. Just a few things:

* Unless we get permission from dirk to use the Simtropolis name, the project's title will be "ProjectCB (Project CityBuilder)"

* The forums are empty. Boards are being added.

* The blog needs an initial post to be made.

* The bug tracker needs setup.

So far, all the software and all the databases are in place.

[Theirishnintendonerd 13]

cool. hopefully dirk will give you premmission to use the ST name . Im keeping a eye on this BTW If you need any help on the site or to moderate the fourms just PM me

[CCFC 0]

I'll be a admin on the forum for this, what software will it use? I recommend MyBB/IPB/vB, but up to you.. I'll help in any case.

[simmaster07 1,220]

I'm recruiting administrators and moderators for the website as soon as everything is "bridged" together.

[brearious 0]

Simmaster,
    I just tried to register at the site and the clock anti-bot thingy isn't showing not allowing me to register     Oh I am using IE, don't think that really matters but it might.  If you could help that would be great!!!!   Thanks

[SmartRoss1 0]

simmaster07: Thanks for getting it all set up! Please post the address as soon as it's ready, and I'll modify the original post to add the address. If you want, then I'll write the first blog entry, and if you are looking for administrators for the forum then I'll volunteer.

I've PM'd dirk to see if using the Simtropolis name is OK. I haven't got a reply yet, but fingers-crossed we shouldn't have a problem. If we aren't allowed to use the ST name then I will be open to all suggestions for a new name.

[simmaster07 1,220]

brearious: how could you register at the site? i haven't even posted an address to it yet.

[KingTitan 6]

Sounds very interesting. With all the SIM building games out there and of course SC4 being the monopoly, and CITIES XL on the rise of interest. The first thing I would do is make sure yours stands out from the rest. Doesn't simtropolis.com have that name already? "simtropolis? If they support ya...so do I.

Good luck friends.

-KT

[simmaster07 1,220]

More site info:

* The forums are near completion.

* The project's download site is on Sourceforge, so developers and admins need to make an account there.

* Everything else is complete.

The rest of the site should be ready in 30 minutes - 1 hour

[simmaster07 1,220]

Well, there have been some problems with the site while I was setting it up, but I did it! Here are some features I added and some stuff I wasn't able to add:

What the site has

• A forum (the only thing not on SourceForge )

• A download area hosted on SourceForge
• A wiki hosted on SourceForge
• A repository for developers to upload patched files to hosted on SourceForge
• A bug tracker hosted on SourceForge
• An RSS feed hosted on SourceForge

Stuff I couldn't add

• A blog (it just wouldn't work )

Anyways, here are the links:

• The forum (the brains of the entire project)
• The SourceForge area (the heart of the entire project)

[brearious 0]

Originally posted by: simmaster07 brearious: how could you register at the site? i haven't even posted an address to it yet.quote>

 

Sorry Simmaster07 it was the link in your signature the UDPX one .  sorry for the confusion. 

[simmaster07 1,220]

brearious: oh. i have the registration screen open right now. it works perfectly. i don't know what's going on with your computer/browser, so i can't help you. :\

[SmartRoss1 0]

I have just registered on the new forum as "SmartRoss". From here on in the main development centre will be at the new site. I will post back updates here every so often, but, to get the most recent information, you will need to look at the forum.

[simmaster07 1,220]

CCFC: You have been given administrator privileges

SmartRoss1: You have been given administrator privileges

[CCFC 0]

Thanks, let me know if you need anything done.

[simmaster07 1,220]

Administrators and developers are being recruited on SourceForge. So hopefully, some developers will come along and help with the project. I am awaiting SmartRoss1's permission to do so right now.

[SmartRoss1 0]

simmaster07: Yep, you have my permission. Could everybody who has currently volunteered please register at SourceForge and give simmaster07 your registered username so that he can put you in. I have registered as SmartRoss.

[simmaster07 1,220]

If you sign up on SourceForge, remember... my screen name there is "ggenius." And when you sign up at SourceForge, you must, MUST, MUST give me your screen name if you want to be a developer. Also note that developers must be registered on the forums.

[CCFC 0]

My sourceforge name is James-HYS, add me to the list if you want.

[The_sanderson 6]

Nice!

If want help with something that i can do,just call!

[simmaster07 1,220]

The_sanderson: Feel free to join the development team.

[Adnoxaei 0]

I don't know much about coding, but I can do graphics. I registered on both ProjectCB and Sourceforge (Both as Adnoxaei), but ProjectCB says:

"An Error Has Occurred!

The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you. "

http://projectcb.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=5.0 "Becoming a Developer" is where I'm attempting to get to while logged in. I can see everything just fine when I'm not logged in

Since that error is preventing me from posting, I guess I will post my application here on ST.

(Application removed from Simtropolis and placed on projectCB)

Thank you very much!