Cinco De Mayo

[mapmaker89 1]

Hey everybody! Just wanted to wish all of Simtropolis a happy Cinco De Mayo this year.

Any plans? We're going out to have Mexican tonight...even though we are not Spanish at all. But it's cool. I like any and all holidays because they get to show us a different side of a culture that we usually don't get to see.

Enjoy your 5th of May! 

-map

EDIT: Poll added - what do you think of International holidays?

[wir3d 2]

Mexican food tonight you mean?

Just a quick reminder to ST, Cinco De Mayo is not Mexican independence day.

[mapmaker89 1]

Yes I meant Mexican food...what were you thinking?

Anyway...Happy Cinco De Mayo to all.

[dabadon5 295]

in fact they do not really celebrate it that much in Mexico. i know becuase it is my heritage, anyways have fun !

[belfastuniguy 18]

Well today we had a day off in the UK and Ireland for May Day (first Monday in May)

Was an absolutely beautiful day as well

and yes Cinco De Mayo is used as a celebration of Mexican heritage and culture, Happy Cinco De Mayo to you mapmaker

[coolotter88 2]

oh you know what? I want Mexicans in Mexico to celebrate July 4th.

[belfastuniguy 18]

oh you know what? I want Mexicans in Mexico to celebrate July 4th.quote>

Ahhhhh why??

They aren't American so why the hell should they celebrate American Independence Day.

As has already been stated this Mexican day is a celebration of culture and history not of Mexico itself as a nation. There is a difference, though you seem to fail to notice this. It is celebrated in America given the large Mexican population just as American holidays are celebrated by Americans living in other countries. Lets not show our ignorance shall we.

[Duke87 1,070]

Well, for a lot of guys my age, Cinco de Mayo is an occasion to go and get wasted on tequila....as if they need an occasion (crazy drunkards....).

Also:

[rodrigogua 1]

actually it's a holiday to celebrate an initial victory over the french in 1862

[screamingman12 30]

Originally posted by: belfastuniguy

oh you know what? I want Mexicans in Mexico to celebrate July 4th.quote>

Ahhhhh why??

They aren't American so why the hell should they celebrate American Independence Day.

As has already been stated this Mexican day is a celebration of culture and history not of Mexico itself as a nation. There is a difference, though you seem to fail to notice this. It is celebrated in America given the large Mexican population just as American holidays are celebrated by Americans living in other countries. Lets not show our ignorance shall we.quote>

I think that it was sarcasm...

But yeah, it doesn't seem to have any real meaning outside Mexico. My school has a sizeable Latino population, and no one mentioned it. It's just another excuse to skip school and/or get drunk.

[patriots_1228 51]

However, in all seriousness, mexicans in america should celebrate July 4th.

Cinco de Mayo celebrates the defeat of french troops in the battle of peubles or somthing, sounds like fruity pebbles. I know ill be eating nachos tonight...but it has nothing to do with cinco de mayo

[belfastuniguy 18]

mexicans in america should celebrate July 4th. quote>

That I don't worry about and of course would encourage....my point was addressing the below...

I want Mexicans in Mexico to celebrate July 4th.quote>

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: belfastuniguy

oh you know what? I want Mexicans in Mexico to celebrate July 4th.quote>

Ahhhhh why??

They aren't American so why the hell should they celebrate American Independence Day.

As has already been stated this Mexican day is a celebration of culture and history not of Mexico itself as a nation. There is a difference, though you seem to fail to notice this. It is celebrated in America given the large Mexican population just as American holidays are celebrated by Americans living in other countries. Lets not show our ignorance shall we.quote>

It looks to me as though that bit of facetiousness was intended to point out the absurdity of people who aren't Mexican celebrating Cinco de Mayo. "They don't celebrate out holiday, why do we celebrate theirs?" Not that that argument doesn't have its flaws, but it is a point nonetheless.

Besides, it isn't just Mexican-Americans that celebrate Cinco de Mayo. It's an occasion for a lot of other people, too- though, as has been said, for them it's to get drunk and munch on nachos, nothing more.

As for July 4th being a celebration of America as a nation..... come on now. That's what it's supposed to be, but that's not what it is. No, it's a day off from work, to have a bunch of people over, barbecue, and set off fireworks- and maybe get into less orthodox, erm "pyrotechnics" (read: lightning things on fire just for the fun of it).

Actually, I take that back, it's perfectly symbolic of America as a nation- the day off symbolizes our laziness, the barbecue symbolizes our obesity, and the fireworks symbolize our tradition of bombing things.

[belfastuniguy 18]

As for July 4th being a celebration of America as a nation..... come on now. That's what it's supposed to be, but that's not what it is. No, it's a day off from work, to have a bunch of people over, barbecue, and set off fireworks- and maybe get into less orthodox, erm "pyrotechnics" (read: lightning things on fire just for the fun of it).

Actually, I take that back, it's perfectly symbolic of America as a nation- the day off symbolizes our laziness, the barbecue symbolizes our obesity, and the fireworks symbolize our tradition of bombing thingsquote>

LOL, Nice

[Heblem 600]

Hi, im from Mexico, so about my opinion about 5 de Mayo its just a battle won againts french troops (Napoleon III), its usually celebrated in Puebla, Mexico, but not the rest of the nation.

Our independence day is the most important and its celebrated in all the nation, its celebrated in September 16, like in United States in July 4.

[mapmaker89 1]

Actually, I take that back, it's perfectly symbolic of America as a nation- the day off symbolizes our laziness, the barbecue symbolizes our obesity, and the fireworks symbolize our tradition of bombing things.quote>

OMG that is SOO funny! But true! Darn...I love to barbecue and light fireworks.

I found a website that explains the whole reason behind Cinco De Mayo:

http://www.vivacincodemayo.org/history.htm

After reading this page, do you think that Americans should celebrate Cinco De Mayo too?

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

-map

[dabadon5 295]

Mexicans in America do celebrate the 4th of july, i know because i am Mexican !

[Micah 16]

Originally posted by: Duke87

Actually, I take that back, it's perfectly symbolic of America as a nation- the day off symbolizes our laziness, the barbecue symbolizes our obesity, and the fireworks symbolize our tradition of bombing things.quote>

 

Ouch. The truth hurts.

Edit: Darn qoute error!

[Odainsaker 2,134]

I had an Iranian-American classmate who periodically would visit her extended family back in Isfahan, Iran. Fascinatingly, her family living there would celebrate Thanksgiving with her, complete with the turkey, stuffing, gravy, etc. Imagine an American colonial tradition, with gobbling turkeys and antique blunderbusses, far off in the distant mountainous plains of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Perhaps sadly, I did not get to pick up from her any insight on Iranian or Persian holiday traditions that might be recognized outside the Iranian emigrant community.

On the other end of the world, I kinda of miss Hawaii with its May Day and Kamehameha Day. May Day is Lei Day in Hawaii, and ours were made from the plumeria tree and hibiscus flowers from our yard. More flowers get consumed on Kamehameha Day, with the king's statue draped and loaded with leis until it appears ready to collapse onto the parade goers from the sheer weight of all the flowers. The Japanese holiday of Boy's Day was also popular, and we also had to hang the paper carp from the house and fly the carp kites, while for Chinese New Year, every elementary school had the dragon boogie dancing amidst firecrackers and students waving red streamers in patterns synchronized enough to please even Beijing.

Here in San Antonio, Texas, we parade before the Alamo in celebration of independence and liberation from Mexican invasion with the Battle of Flowers state holiday, and only a week later drink in celebration of Mexican liberation from French invasion with Cinco de Mayo. Despite the apparent irony, I guess they are not mutually exclusive, and are just two more days for Fiesta. I don't drink, but maybe I'll make a lei, fly my carp, and boogie dance with a blunderbuss over some firecrackers.

[krbe 193]

Originally posted by: Odainsaker Here in San Antonio, Texas, we parade before the Alamo in celebration of independence and liberation from Mexican invasion with the Battle of Flowers state holiday, and only a week later drink in celebration of Mexican liberation from French invasion with Cinco de Mayo. Despite the apparent irony, I guess they are not mutually exclusive, and are just two more days for Fiesta. I don't drink, but maybe I'll make a lei, fly my carp, and boogie dance with a blunderbuss over some firecrackers.

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Here, the battles pass in relative quietness: Norway made sure that its 100 years celebration for independence from Sweden didn't have any nationalist tones, while Sweden didn't celebrate the 350^th anniversary for the victory over the Danes in Scania (where the loss was hardly marked). The 200^th anniversary for the bombing of Copenhagen was marked only by the exchange of an old Danish bell the Brits stole during the bombing...

So, we're not too much into that battle celebration thing

[TRNSTN 0]

Well International Holidays would only apply to those countries which participated in the event itself. I mean Cinco De Mayo sounds like it was both Mexicans and Americans who particiapted in the victory, so yes both countreis would celebrate it. You wouldn't really celebrate Chinese New Year if you weren't exactly Chinese. Yes Chinese people can celebrate it openly and with welcome arms so others can experience it, but no one should be "forced" or told to celebrate something. Just like I wouldn't celebrate Jewish holidays even if students from my school were Jewish and celebrating it. They do make morning announcements about the particular important holidays though, sometimes.

thanks mapmaker for that little history lesson, I actually had no idea what Cinco De Mayo was.

[mapmaker89 1]

To be honest, I never did! I just knew it was a Mexican holiday that my family, for some reason or another, celebrated by enjoying Mexican food.

I agree with you totally, TRNSTN. People should never be forced to celebrate another culture's holidays. Sometimes you do it out of respect when visiting another country, but that's about it.

At least now we all know.

Peace,

-map

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: krbe Here, the battles pass in relative quietness: Norway made sure that its 100 years celebration for independence from Sweden didn't have any nationalist tones, while Sweden didn't celebrate the 350^th anniversary for the victory over the Danes in Scania (where the loss was hardly marked). The 200^th anniversary for the bombing of Copenhagen was marked only by the exchange of an old Danish bell the Brits stole during the bombing...quote>

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[krbe 193]

Originally posted by: Duke87

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I could swear I was in Safari when I wrote that (which means no toolbar to aid you), but then again, HTML do sometimes show up in Firefox.

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[arimou0 0]

I wrote something about it here It should be a National Holiday in Mexico and the US just because it changed the course of events in the whole North American continent.

[Explodingsims 3]

Hmm...Intresting debate here...

I disagree with Arimou0. I don't think it needs to be a day off in the US. It's celebrating the Independance of a Different country,

so it shouldn't be celebrated here. By that logic, July 4th should be a national holiday in Mexico.