SC4Tool Transit Question

[wblake50 2]

I am pretty much a newbie to this, but I've been trying to play around with the SC4Tool to transit enable some park lots for pedestrians.  I've kind of got it working... when I string park lots together I've enabled, pedestrians traffic seems to pass through them.  However, I can't get peds to come from residential lots on to the ped-enabled tiles. 

For example, the ped tiles in the NAM behave the way I want -- peds will come out of a house (the rear of the house) and walk along the ped tiles to the train station and vice versa.  However, if I put one of my ped-enabled parks in there in place of a NAM ped tile, the sims in the adjacent house can no longer enter the ped walkway (however those "upstream" still can and may pass through my lot). 

Hope this makes sense... I guess ultimately what I'm trying to do is make some parks behave like the NAM ped tiles... I'm guessing it's far more complicated than flipping a few switches in SC4Tool.  But, if anyone has any advice, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!

[RebaLynnTS 275]

With luck we will both learn something new ... I've been experimenting with TE a little, but am still somewhat new to it as well.

[warrior 169]

The NAM ped tiles are not Transit Enabled lots they are puzzle pieces which considerabley longer to create new ones and would need to be included ina NAM release/update.

As far as I know if you were going to create Tranist Enabled And it is highly recommended you dont, due to pathfinding and the game engine, you would have to Transit Enable them for road , and then in the reader remove all the entry/exit points (the arrows in SC4Tool) and add the same custom path as the NAM ped malls, but I'll say again not a good idea to do this.

[wblake50 2]

warrior, thanks for the response.

I don't understand exactly why it's not a good idea, but I could tell it was something fundamentally more complicated. For instance when I use the query tool on a NAM ped tile it's identified as a "Road" whereas mine are not. So I see something about what the deal is with this thing and thank you also for saving me from spending too much time going down a dead end path.

[jplumbley 5]

Here is the link to your answer on why TE Lots are bad.

https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=2763.0

The biggest issue is that you have to be mindful of which Pathfinding Engine you have installed.  If you have a 10x Speed Pathfinding Engine installed the Traffic Switch Cost must be adjusted to be 10x lower than that of the standard lot.  TE Lots and the Pathfinding Eninge are one of the biggest imbalances in the game right now.  Mott and I had a big discussion about the Pathfinding Engine and have come close to building a suitable candidate for a mass release.  There will be a few options like the NAM one but the NAM ones will be phased out when these come "online".  We did not have the greatest information in the begining and the NAM Traffic Simulators actually did more harm than good.  Due to this even more unbalanced mods such as Abandonment Mods have been created instead.

We have skewed the game so much that we need to rebalance it and that is what Mott and I are trying to do with the Transit Simulator and that is what Ripplejet and the BSC Team are trying to do with the CAM.  Hopefully we can get the game back to the way it was intended to be but fix the imperfections it had in the first place.