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Why are you apathetic about politics?  Why aren't you? I am wondering about my own involvement in politics or lack of. I want to know about Simtropolis. Are you apathetic?

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I dont really like politics that much. I think it is way too complicated. Basically, just vote for who ever you want to be president. All the runners say the same things to get into office and they dont do any or not all of their promises.

Example: Bush

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Since this is not a current event, I'm moving to the Off-Topic forum.


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I'm too busy bureaucrating w/ my midlevel job in the Real Life Bureau of Bureaucracies to notice, much less care, who my boss is.

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I'm not sure if apathy is growing in this country, I think its more likely that its disillusionment. The idea of the individual can change the world seems to be fading in the realm of politics. It seems you HAVE to play the game and pander to the political elite in order to get into power and to maintain it. There is no room for idealism in such a system. When you feel you can't do anything, there's no reason to not become apathetic.

Edit: Its amazing how much ONE letter (than --> to that) changes the ENTIRE meaning.

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    I was thinking about how my vote doesn't count due to the Electoral College, and how it is not my generation's turn at the helm of power. Its kind of like that saying "you'll never get rich working for someone else." Those in power want to stay there, so they limit the inputs to the system we can use.

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    I think, the older you are, the more interested in Politics you become... when I was 13-15 I couldn't care less how the World world worked, I was pretty clueless when it came to government. Over the past 5 years my interest in Politics grew substantialy though... I often wonder why some people stay away from it totally. Fear of Authority? Too Difficult and vast to understand? I knew a girl once who would get REALLY annoyed if me and my mates started ranting on about Politics, never understood why... why would you turn down the chance to make your Country/State/Province/Region/City a better place? I'd love to get deeper into politics and possibly become an MP [or SMP] ([scottish]Member of Paraliment), but no major Parties relate to my Ideology (not even the Socialist Party or the Communist Party) and forming your own Party is a major long shot (not to mention expensive)...

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    Most of the people I know simply have no faith in our current political systems.  They're not apathetic because they don't care, they're apathetic because they have no hope.  The system is out of our hands.  Why get all passionate and emotional about something you can not possibly have any effect on or control over?

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    I think ShortStraw sums it up quite nicely, speaking for my own views as well as for most of the people that I know, both young and old.

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    "Never doubt that a small group of committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that has."

     --Margaret Meadequote>


    We can inspire others through witness so that one grows together in communicating. But the worst thing of all is religious proselytism, which paralyzes: “I am talking with you in order to persuade you.” No. Each person dialogues, starting with his and her own identity. The church grows by attraction, not proselytizing.    - Pope Francis

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    Political apathy is definitely rampant.  The last election I voted in made me one of the minority who did.

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    Originally posted by: confused04 I'm not sure if apathy is growing in this country, I think its more likely that its disillusionment. The idea of the individual can change the world seems to be fading in the realm of politics. It seems you HAVE to play the game and pander to the political elite in order to get into power and to maintain it. There is no room for idealism in such a system. When you feel you can't do anything, there's no reason to not become apathetic.quote>

    Well, see, there's the thing. In a democratic system, you can't effect any changes without first getting majority approval. And since people are fearful of change and cling to the status quo, and since those who complain about things tend to get heard more than those who support them, that majority approval is very slow to come, if it comes at all. You then have the issue that our system is bogged down in bureaucracy, so accomplishing even small things takes forever. Accomplishing big things tends to require decades worth of patience, and most people simply don't have that.

    That's the thing about dictatorships: they're oppressive and overbearing, but they get ** done. There's an upisde to everything, remember that!


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    I actually hold strong life convictions, including on politics.  At this stage in my life I also have a lot of serious and demanding (and a few not so serious and demanding) roles and responsibilities. What political convictions I act on depends on how they can get juggled and prioritized into my normal workaday life. They are competing with my attempts to trying to be the best Christian I can be, the best husband I can be, the best father I can be, the best clinical supervisory social worker I can be, a good brother, a good brother-in-law, a good neighbor, a good United States citizen, taking care of my health, taking care of finances, pursuing lifelong career goals, being a good steward of the environment, and oh yeah, ...this little hobby.  Add another a bowling pin to the juggling act! 

    One good thing about living in a representative republic is that we delegate, vote, pay others to take of important detailed-filled things that would drive us batty if we had spend all of our time to concentrate on.   But meanwhile, hoping that we've given the responsibilities to the right people, be they politicians or mechanics. I’ll still vote for whoever I think best espouses my beliefs, but if a politician really wants my time then they are going to have to make  the case that their efforts, beliefs, and capabilities are more important than taking my children to ponds to appreciate nature. So far they ain’t been doing it. 

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    Originally posted by: DanWalker8 Why are you apathetic about politics?  Why aren't you? I am wondering about my own involvement in politics or lack of. I want to know about Simtropolis. Are you apathetic?quote>
     

    Yes 

    It happened when Marion Barry got reelected mayor of Washington DC

    After seriving prision time for drug offences. How does that happen?


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    It's actually quite simple, EasyBakes.

    A very large percentage of the D.C. population had been arrested for drug convictions, served time in prison or both. Therefore, much of the voting public could identify with him since either they or a family member had been in the same boat.

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    Thats not what I meant.

    Dont the Politicos try as hard as they can to distance themsleves from people who

    hang them selves by thier own actions if only to avoid the impression of guilt by assosiation?


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    Originally posted by: Easy Bakes Thats not what I meant.

    Dont the Politicos try as hard as they can to distance themsleves from people who

    hang them selves by thier own actions if only to avoid the impression of guilt by assosiation?

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    Politicians are alchemists.  Maybe the problem is the Law of Contagion?


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    Originally posted by: N_O_Body
    Originally posted by: Easy Bakes Thats not what I meant.

    Dont the Politicos try as hard as they can to distance themsleves from people who

    hang them selves by thier own actions if only to avoid the impression of guilt by assosiation?

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    Politicians are alchemists.  Maybe the problem is the Law of Contagion?quote>

     

    Ill have to look that law up and see if it applies to Drug offences 41.gif


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