TatooedMillionaire's BAT Thread

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

Well thank you, Sim shady, maybe I can do something with that.

here are some pictures without the shading:

Today I walked around this building, I noticed a few differences, as this work was from some pictures from the online Amsterdam municipality file, some very old pics from the 60's and 70's, so in the meantime they've built some new roof windows. I've decided I like the building better without them, they look a bit out of place.

[Sim shady 12]

exceptional job It alligns perfectly with those other w2ws, which must have taken considerable amounts of time getting correct measurements.

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

I've tried to make a (diagonal) sidewalk using prepo's diagonal footprint set.

The problem is:

- If I use his lots, the footprint building (a big green box) will stick out of my building:

- If I try to open his Gmax files to delete the green building/ box, so I have the sidewalk without the box, there is nothing in there (I get a error saying that something is missing)

If there's anyone who knows how to help, please let me know.

[mightygoose 92]

you dont have to keep his footprint building... just remove it from the scene again. the fact that your building fits perfectly is great. the only reason to keep the sidewalk modelled is so the shadows will be cast on it by the invisible plane so it fakes shadows from adjacent buildings falling on the model...

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

Ok, I think I don't really get it at all. I finally managed to open prepo's scenes, by merging them with my model. I noticed none of them fits this building exactly, so I thought I'd make my own sidewalk. That does not look good at all though, so I think I've missed something.

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

Today the weather is nice so I thought I'd pick up my bike.

I went to the buildings and took some pictures:

so this is what it looks like in real life.

[jacqulina 162]

very good likeness excellent work and detail

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

Ok, I really would like to go on with this project, so I can finish it. The problem is the sidewalk.

If I make this in BAT and I render it, there's this ugly lightness as you can see in the pictures above.

If I use Prepo's footprints in the lot editor there is no texture at all, and the buildings will show through my own building

Is there anyone who knows:

- how to correctly use Prepo's footprints (I haven't found any documentation on this)

- how to change the material in BAT so it won't be so light when rendered (so it will be the same as other sidewalks)?

help is appreciated!!

[Sim shady 12]

i do not know how prepo's buildings are set up, but can you not just select hide on the main building, leaving just the side walk?

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

you can hide it in gmax, but then the sidewalk still has no texture. If you apply a texture you will get the same nasty effect as in the pictures above I think.

[Sim shady 12]

hmmm....i suggest you pm prepo or krio about how they did their side walk textures then. Hope you can solve this problem.

[autoVino 26]

The reason that your sidewalk is so bright is because gmax makes the textures brighter (something with alpha channels, etc, which I have no clue how it workd)...  Try this texture instead:

I think this is the right one, I make a whole set of the textures a while back and I still have a few remaining.

[Jasoncw 11,949]

Gmax makes textures brighter because there is light shining on the object.  How bright something gets depends on what angle the face is compared to the light source.

The point of the sidewalk being modeled there, is that there will be a sidewalk there instead of grass. 

Prepo uses a plane next to the building, so that a shadow will be cast on the sidewalk (as if there was a building next door).  I don't remember the exact placement of the plane, but he posted about it on SC4 Devotion.  I think the plane was flush against the front wall, but rotated 180 degrees around.

[TatooedMillionaire 44]

Well, now I used autoVino's texture, and it looks much better (thanks!). Only in the second screen shot below you can see it's too dark.

Here are the pictures:

I'm working on a tram station as well, and I asked a question about it in the Transit modding thread here.

No answers yet, so if you know a bit about it...

Because I made the station in BAT I thought I'd show it here as well, it's based on an Amsterdam tram stop.

[jacqulina 162]

great textures yes looks much better

[Sim shady 12]

I have never worked with modding so i cant help you with the traqnsit enabling, but i tip my hat off to you on your excellent job on the diagonal building

[Andreas Roth 629]

@Tatooed Millionaire: For the pathing of the tram station, I suggest to ask in the NAM-related threads at SC4Devotion. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to create path files, but I'm sure someone over there can give you a hand.

[autoVino 26]

Nice station, I especially like how the ground textures are going.
As for the diaganol building, the texture does look a bit dark in the second picture, but this may be because you are missing the game shadows, but it may be a bit darker than the game shadows themselves.