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Well, I'm new to the game and have experimented a few times on different cities, building up to about 10k population each.  With every city I build, Im running into an issue where my environment bar is consistently all red and always going down, never up.  When you mouse over the environment bar,  it suggests lowering pollution and increasing parks and greenspace, so I ensure I have proper waste management and lower pollution as much as I can, plant parks/greenspace/etc and trees and still have a completely red environment bar.  At the same time all other bars and my mayor rating are all consistently green.  I check with my environment representative and he enver has anything negative to say - thus I don't know what to fix!

Surely I'm not the only newbie that has came across this issue.  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!! Thanks!

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You will never, ever, ever, ever, ever make Camille Meadows happy.  If you have a road in your city, and cars drive on it, those cars will produce pollution and sink your Enviro bar.  I usually pretend it doesn't exist because it's impossible to keep green.

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i never used to be able to keep the enviroment bar out of the red but now i put in so much eyecandy in my citys like pegs seasonal trees which really lower pollution

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If you do want to attempt to make it greener here are some helpful tips: ---------------Garbage disposals generate pollution, therefore you will want to send the garbage out of the city (buy garbage space in a neighbouring city) ---------------Placing parks and trees in plenty will help. (trees are free to maintain, parks are not) ---------------When your population is more educated, they will want to work at manufacturing industrial instead of dirty industrial. Manufacturing is lighter on the pollution than dirty industry is. Eventually, you get high tech which does not pollute, but high tech is for much later on. ---------------Mass transit systems (bus, subway etc..) will help reduce traffic on your roads, thus lowering pollution generated along those roads. I too never really care about the enviro-bar, since its almost hopeless to run a city with the enviro-bar all green, and still make good profit. edit: dang it, how do jump a line down..?

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Well, there's two "types" of pollution: Air Pollution and Water Pollution. See which areas are most polluted in terms of air and in water pollution. There are custom objects that reduce pollution dramatically; search "Air Purification Plant" at the STEX for air pollution reducers, and "Reverse Osmosis" for a water pollution reducer. These are amazing, a few of the Air Purification Plants can drain out all the air pollution of my Dirty Industry.

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If you tax the dirty industry a lot, they'll go away eventually, which will decrease the water and air pollution

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The really quick answer: After your city reaches a certain population, it's not much but I don't remember exactly, the environment bar drops to red and NEVER goes back up. I don't know if this is a glitch or what but it certainly seems so. You can try all the parks and trees you want to clear it up, but it will always be red. Best solution: ignore it, the environment may not really be that bad but that bar will always show red for no reason.

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The Environmental bar is just a generalization of the environmental situation in your city. After a certain size it will almost never be completely green even if most of your city is green, as log as some of it si yellow or red. But I have managed to create a town with 10k population, commercial and industry (each) and with the environmental bar 2/3 green by placing only IHT (high-tech industry, courtesy of the large metropolis next tile away) and allowing only R$$ and R$$$ to live on a island. Also placed as much public transportation as I could to reduce traffic and linked most of my industrial zones with rail to reduce the trucks on the road. Plus tried to make the island into a paradise by planting relatively many parks and gardens and trees where I had the spare room such as on slopes. I also only used Windmills to power the island and imported electricity for the industry (as industry really gobbles up electricity), and exported all the trash to a neighbor that had the garbage incinerators, coal power plants, dirty and manufacturing industries that pollute a lot (and keep get the message that city skyline is missing. Basically the worst level pollution ever. The entire map is RED. But pollution doesn't spill over in neighboring cities so I don't care much.)

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I dont have the same problem oO I got some pics

First my environment bar

environmentiu0.jpg

Then my flow

flowey6.jpg

And about city beutification 3.gif

beautificationar3.jpg

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i personally have never experience a pure red environment bar even with a city population of about 100,000 people. just some tips to help you out:

agriculture doesn't generate air pollution, but generates TONS of water pollution. this water pollution will contribute to the environment bar going red. fixes include using a water treatment plant, or not using agriculture at all (or just minimal usage).

dirty industry and manufacturing creates both air and water pollution. possible solutions include isolating your industrial sectors on the very edge and corner of your city and planting lots of trees around your industrial sector. the trees have the effect of localizing the air pollution to a certain area (given you plant enough trees).

high tech industry produces slight air pollution and no water pollution (please correct me if i'm wrong).

with a very large city, keeping the bar completely green will probably be impossible since traffic in your city will generate some air pollution. what a lot of people do is put all of the dirty industry, power plants, and garbage dumps in a neighboring tile as this keeps the pollution isolated to that tile and out of your main city tile.

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