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[rodent1989 9]

I didn't realize it was the underfloor cargo that was the tiebreaker in that situation.  I love this community because of moments like this!  We all seem to know something about something.

[neongamer 3]

rodent1989: I happen to be an aspiring pilot, so I have picked up a lot of info along the way .

[SpokaneFlyBoy 2]

Originally posted by: neongamer rodent1989: I happen to be an aspiring pilot, so I have picked up a lot of info along the way .quote>

Welcome to the club. I've got my private, and aspiring to get my commercial. Though I'm looking more into the Part 135 ops than the 121.

[krbe 193]

Originally posted by: waway625anyway a little OT..will the airlines save more by using larger planes but less flights instead of using smaller planes but more frequent flights? coz in my city (davao) Philippine airlines uses the A330 (and sometimes the A340 or B747) for the Davao-Manila flight (around 1 hour and 30 minutes) and cut the number of flights to 4-5 a day for that route

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As said, cargo may be part of the equation; however, when it comes to attracting passengers, they tend to use smaller planes and more frequent flights. The 500 km Oslo-Bergen (OSL-BGO) is served by some 30-40 flights each day (all direct with 737s). This works fine right now, since the airspace isn't crowed, but in the US it's so many planes in the air that you risk spending more time on the tarmac than in the air; that's what happen when you replace a 150 seat 737s with three 50 seat CRJ200s. Smaller airplanes makes the turnaround time smaller, but the problem is that for the air traffic controller, a blip on his screen is a blip--regardless of wheter it is a ATR 42, 737, or a A340. I've read a NYT article that stated that New York area society lost about 200 millions a year due to crowded airspace.

And the belly cargo issue leads Lufthansa to send a A300 to Frankfurt every morning from Copenhagen, while it's served by 737s and MD80s the rest of the day.

[Aranho 0]

perfect! i finally found an article to post about by upcoming cj's airport - Tourist City International Airport (TOCIA [pronounce as tock-ee-ah]). My upcoming cj is called Raffore (pronounced as raff-4) Islands (may be change). but due to too many graphical errors, it has been delayed. Anyway, TOCIA is designed to handle a max. of 221.5 million passangers annually (14 terminals), with China, US, South Asia, Europe and Thailand - Malaysia region taking most of the max. capacity. Raffore Islands' Raffore Airlines will be flying to a total of 236 destinations in six continent, with the most being in N. America and Asia. But this is only in the present. In the past, Raffore Islands used to be a communism country. despite that, it hated all other communism countries due to its own civil war. singapore ultimately transform raffore islands to what it is now in the present. enough said, let me tell you more about the airport's layout.

TOCIA will have a total of 12 runways, each serving 2 terminals. 4 of the runways will be placed diagonally - 2 facing asia and australasia, the other 2 facing N. America, Indonesia and Indan Ocean. Although TOCIA is planned to have 24 terminals (14 of them which willl be occupied), the plan is layout so that more terminals can be built. the terminals will be built side by side, forming a rounded rectangle shaped and it will be placed in the middle of the airport. inside the rounded rectangle will be 2 control towers, malls, resorts, hotels, and possibly a commercial district. the airport will also have a a cargo terminal (about the size of 9 - 10 passenger terminals) which will be sharing the same runway. taxiways and linkways (a special type of taxiways) have been strategically drawn to provide fast taxings, take offs and landings. due to TOCIA's massive size, 4 airport fire station have also been strategically placed to provide fast emergencies if one arises.

i think that will be enough. will be posting the airport layout very soon. cheers!

[bighaben 0]

Wow, that's a massive airport, can't wait to see it! Better be massive...200+ gates...can't wait.

[neongamer 3]

24 terminals. If you've got that one one city tile, my jaw will break through the floor!

333RD POST!!!!!

[Aranho 0]

Here's my airport layout for TOCIA:

Original

This is a modified version. As you can see, those gray "X"s are possible terminal extesion, which is unlikely to happen though. Having 24 terminals is more than enough already. Also, the terminals are design in such a way that the airport people's mover system can ferry passengers from one terminal to another in a circular manner. the airport fire station are also placed so that each fire station will cover 6 runways min. (with the exception of the southern fire station, with min. 5). how's the design all you critics out there, critisize it (if you want). want more details and infos of the airport, such as terminal max. capacity, go ahead and ask me.

[neongamer 3]

Runways look a tad short.

[2nerdy4u 1]

The fact that these two runways line up like that would scare any pilot. And considering the size of your runways and taxiways, your terminals look too small in comparison.

[The_Hutt 11]

You wouldn't be able to fit that on a single large tile (or even two or three large tiles) unless your runways were only 3000 feet long, which isn't realistic. Compare it with this airport of mine, which is on a large tile and has 10-12,000 foot runways.

[bighaben 0]

2nerdy4u makes a good point, however you can just combine the runways for long runway awsomeness.

[Aranho 0]

ok. maybe mine is too big. will redesign so that each runway will take up 3-4 terminals. any other suggestions to make it smaller?

[pilotdaryl 25]

Too many terminals.  For example, an airport like Chicago O'Hare has four terminals; another airport, Hong Kong International, only has one terminal in a Y concourse design.  Guam International Airport has one terminal with some 7 gates and two criss-cross runways.

I think you might want to use Ace's packs to create your terminals.  Right now, your airports are just off-scale.

[SpokaneFlyBoy 2]

Yeah, one of the two runways that 2nerdy4u pointed out should be nixed as you could not safely operate both simultaneously, thus making one of them fairly useless. Otherwise the layout seems quite nicely thought out, though I do wonder what sort of city could support such an airport financially as well as in infrustructure. Also, do you have plans for cargo ops within this airport? They are usually in their own area away from the terminal since they'd only waste space better suited for passenger planes when cargo ramps only need large ramp space and a building to hold offices, employee lounge, and ramp equipment maintenance and sometimes warehouse space if trucking is operated from the same site as well as hangars if the airport is a maintenance hub for the outfit.

[SpokaneFlyBoy 2]

Originally posted by: bighaben Excellent work on that airport, good attention to detail, the only problem is spacing, the terminals(concourses) should be spaced further apart, as well as the runways, both of which, or at least one, should be extended.

The use of the lights, and the markings on the runway are very well done.  Except they should be in a different order, the aiming point is after the numbers.

I believe it goes like this

"L" "R" "C"

"Numbers

"Triple Lines"

"Aiming Point"

"Double Lines"

"Single Lines"

"Single Lines"

"Single Lines"

I'm not sure though.quote>

It depends on country. For the US, you are mostly correct, though there should be two sets of double line TDZ Markers and two sets of single line TDZ Markers. The exception to this is if both ends have markings and the markings are within 900feet (270m or 27 tiles) of the runway midpoint, then any markings that are in that zone are omited.

It should also be noted that that is only for the Precision Runway Markings. For Non-Precision, there are only the Aim Point Markers and the runway identifier. For Visual Runway Markings, you only have the runway identifier. The terms Precision and Non-Precision do not describe the level of care put into painting down the markings, but whether the navigational aid that brings you into the runway has a glide-slope (vertical) component or not. Some precision aids such as ILS CATIIIb can bring you down to the runway without ever visually sighting the runway until the wheels touch. This is the reason for those special markings as they let you know how far down the runway you are and if you have enough left to safely stop.

On the subject of runway markers, the numbers, for those that do not know, indicate compass heading as you approach the given end of the runway. Given that Sim City does not have declination between true north and magnetic north, we'll assume that they are one and the same here. 9 is 090° also known as East, 18 is 180° also known as South, 27 is 270° also known as West, and 36 is 000°/360° also known as North. Another thing to keep in mind is that the letters are only used when there are parallel runways and each letter is only used once, then it is moved to the next number.

Example:

Incorrect

9	9	9	9
L	C	C	R

Correct

9	9	9	10
L	C	R	&

[Aranho 0]

thanks for the suggestions for my airport. will draw a completely new airport layout. decided to "merge some of the terminals together, but to a certain limit. each runway will serve at least one terminal and the cargo terminal will be separated away from the passenger terminals. keep those suggstion coming in. thank.

[bighaben 0]

SpokaneFlyBoy: Ah, thanks, lines were never something I really knew about.  Guess my municipal airport I just built is wrong as it doesn't have any ILS (of any category) system in place.

[SpokaneFlyBoy 2]

Originally posted by: bighaben SpokaneFlyBoy: Ah, thanks, lines were never something I really knew about.  Guess my municipal airport I just built is wrong as it doesn't have any ILS (of any category) system in place.

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If you've planned your airport to have an NDB or VOR based approach, the fix is as simple as removing the TDZ Markers and leaving the Aim Point Marker. For a runway with no instrument approach, you just remove all the Markers and leave just the Runway Identifier to create a Visual Runway. But of course, this is all more personal taste since knowing what approaches come into your airport are whatever you say they are. Though, eventually, I'd like to see ILS shack and tower props to sit alongside the runway.

[neongamer 3]

Geesh, good to have someone else here who knows what they're talking about. One guy tried to tell me Boeing make the A380 once >.

[thinboy66 6]

This is my not very busy small airport:

[thinboy66 6]

My airport above is still in construction. I am going to add hotels and transit later. This is my first airport I made by myself. (with as much texture i have)

[underwearman2007 0]

You know, I keep trying to get an airport dedicated city, but I end up "Running 4 Senator".

Need Help with fundz please.

Oh and hug a tree.

[borntoboogie 15]

I'm afraid you can't really make an airport city without cheating, or zoning lots of commercial (they LOVE airports!)

[SIMplMn9 0]

Ok.. yes I did work on the mountains, flattened it quite a bit.  Now it is time for the next attempt.

I ask you say what I should change, add, get rid of, etc, and I'll see if I can accomadate it.

Links and pictures would be helpful...

Besides the obvious... the large parking area is short term and long term, while the structures are valet and long term...

And it was just suggested I rely only on the ACB VLT Terminals And Jets Series 1, so I got that part taken care of.

[feliwi 4]

TEASER PICS of coming Bang Thep Int. Airport

I will present you some teaser shots of the airport in my cj:

Korean Air 747-400 stays the night in Bang Thep:

The last arriving flight is Thai Airways International MD-11 TG112 from Bangkok:

The next day. Premiere of A380 at the new constructed gate A0:

[thinboy66 6]

great pics

[alexbieiniek 0]

I can only see some of the pictures... anyone know why?

[RL09 0]

where can i find the planes from tabi on actual airport lots

if i try to edit a jetway to include the new planes it doesnt let me save as.

also "feliwi" did you make the a380 jetways?

thanks

[simsmart 1]

Originally posted by: RL09 where can i find the planes from tabi on actual airport lots

if i try to edit a jetway to include the new planes it doesnt let me save as.

also "feliwi" did you make the a380 jetways?

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1. They do not come on any lot, you have to lot them.

2. You cannot save the lots on an airport jetway.

       You have to start from scratch.

3. The jetways come with the a/c.