Show us your airport!

[Superchan 23]

dude, use jpeg, they take less bandwith, thats why we use them, plus not everyone likes firefox, another reason to use jpegs, is that they work with all browsers, dont just make it so it works with firefox only, btw i hate firefox, oh and about the airport, really no sane pilot would ever fly there, there is a 95% chance of those overpasses collapsing, and the runway is not even, it should not go up a hill, btw i saw your pics fine in yahoo email, but not on st..... guess st does not support pngs, or they got removed.

[allez l'om 1]

david a very great airport!!!!!but you should to think about doing terraforming!!!!!

[david1314 44]

Superchad: Wrong wrong wrong wrong:

http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?id=s0013145

And runways are NEVER even. Every FAA chart gives the starting and ending altitude of a runway. I've piloted aircraft out of airports with greater runway variation than this (the game has just over 35m variation (115'). My runway is just over 8000', Aspen-Pitken (KASE) has a 7000' runway with >140' of elevation change. When you only have one place to build an aiport, just like in the real world, you make do.

And regarding firefox, I really don't care if you hate it. It's much less work for me to use the raw images from SC4, and I like the idea of supporting marketing-tool free OSs...

Edit: allez l'om: Thank you.  I did heavily teraform that area.  It is difficult to hit the +30m grade of the low side of the airport and the high side without having disgusting 100' walls at the edge of the airport.

Edit (again): also, if you don't like Firefox, try Opera.  I'm pretty sure they support .pngs as well

[pilotdaryl 25]

david1314: Your airport design looks very creative and unique, however I'm not sure that a runway should be placed on a slope that steep and/or be placed on an overpass.  An overpass like that must be able to accomodate a plane's weight, and the bridge is quite narrow, which may prompt sliding off the bridge and into the highways below.  Usually, taxiway bridges are used to cross roads.  I like your terminal design, and the way some jets are still placed on airstair gates with walkways.  Makes it look classic.

[The_Hutt 11]

It's okay to have a runway on a slope, but the entire length of the runway surface itself needs to be flat. It can't have ridges in it. Also, having such a narrow bridge over that ravine is borderline absurd.

[david1314 44]

Narrow clearance runways are very common. That runway is no more a hazard than any number of Caribbean or Pacific Island airports...and some of them have similar size traffic. The support structure may be a bit weak based on the BAT design, but the concept is proven at Medeira Airport in Portugal as I showed in the link. Crossing multiple highways with very narrow runway clearance is quite common, if outdated (the best example that comes to mind for me is I-70 under Stapleton...though I know there are many much closer clearances).

Combining the two for a slight lapse in safety would only take a real world combination of the right geographic features with sufficient population to see something similar in the real world. It was in fact the only place within my region that an airport could be supported. The old 4000' runway and terminal (the north section) was expanded to accommodate the larger aircraft. So terminal 3 and the bridges were added, and later Terminal 4.

Here's a link to a rather large (Edit: er...not so large, but still shows it) image showing the terrain I'm dealing with. You can't really see it, but the airport is actually located in a valley parallel to the runway relative to the surrounding area:

https://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z316/rotaryspd/NewDenver.jpg

And the runway is a lot flatter than it looks.  some of the immediate surrounding terrain raises and lowers to the runway, but it's pretty flat.  There is the one ridge that I think everyone's speaking of that looks like I didn't Teraform it, and the depression before the slope down to the bridge which was an error I didn't catch immediately...

but...I'd like to see some other urban or adverse terrain airports before too much complaining about mine.

[Superchan 23]

yes, its okay to have a little slope but you have several bumps, it slopes up and flatens out and then repeats that, it should be one gradual slope, and they should fill in land where that runway bridge is and make a road tunnel and water tunnel, thats the only way it would work.

edit: your link to that website does not work, and you could build your airport farther away and build a mass transit system, its bettery to have safety than convience.

[ev 3]

GO CANUCKS

[david1314 44]

Here we go...one for the impossible to please fan site:

And thanks captain obvious. Would an airport out in a vast open field really be safer?!

How about you comment on the airport, not the location. If you lived in the city, having an airport that is 4 miles from downtown would kick-ass (says the person with firsthand experience with Denver's airport in Kansas).

Every airport is a compromise. The people of this city thought this was their best option.

[frogface 354]

Personally I love it! I like to build my airports near urban areas, the bridge is just like Funchal airport so I don't see why not and there have been plenty of other risky airports such as Hong Kong Kai Tak, one of the most unique ones on the thread,

[ilikehotdogsalot 311]

Originally posted by: ev GO CANUCKS

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[bighaben 0]

For terminal design that is one of the best airports I have ever seen, and the variety of aircraft is also really good looking, I give you 5 stars out of 5 for that.

As for the runway, even with the edits, the slope is still at tad extreme, at 8,000 feet a fully loaded boeing 747 would not be able to land there, sure it could if it was flat, but the slope will most certaintly affect the take off roll, when going up a slope that steep it could mean the difference of barely making it and not making it.  Also on landing the slope could speed it up, however the plane should still be able to stop, planes take quicker to land then take-off.  Also, I'd use a hole digger and tunnel underneath the runways, that way it looks like it could support a fully loaded 747, however I have to admit it looks damned cool, and in the end that's all that really matters.

[david1314 44]

frogface: Thanks!  It means a lot coming from you.

Bighaben, thank you...very kind words.

It is true that at Max. Takeoff Weight (MTOW) the 747 requires just over 10,000' for takeoff (landing can be done on much shorter runway distance than takeoff must use). But if the fuel and takeoff weight are limited, the 747 can operate from smaller airports. Air France used to operate a service to St. Maarten's Princess Juliana Int'l Airport, which only has a 7,200' runway. The range, as I recall, is limited to something like 3,500nm, because of the weight limit. I'm not sure of this, but I believe Air France unfortunately discontinued 747 service on this route opting for an A340 (can anyone verify this?).

The wikipedia for the airport:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Juliana_International_Airport

The photo evidence (about the most famous plane spotter location for this exact reason, and I understand this particular photo to be the most famous aircraft photo ever):

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0211543

And airliners.net's most popular photos (note how many are 747s there):

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?sort_order=views+desc&nr_of_photos=1258463

[bighaben 0]

I love Princess Juiliana (TNCM), its a great airport, and was the basis for most of my reply, seeing the 747 would use pretty much the entire runway to take off.  Not to worry though, while Air France does not run 747's to TNCM anymore, KLM does.

[david1314 44]

Oh, excelent. This is the original picture I was after to stave off criticism:

So between the airports in

Medeira Portugal, St. Maarten, and Aspen Colorado, all aspects of the airport are within EXISTING real world airports...granted, the combination does not exist.

[Superchan 23]

yes, but that elevated runway is much wider than yours, with a bit on the side of the runway, and has more supports, i would suggest that you bat one that is wider and with more supports, and also, your sloping runway should still be a gradual flat slope, no bumps or hills.

[Marshal Ney 0]

Originally posted by: Mrkeacher88 Come on people, lets see some more airports, if your wondering where some of these airport BATS are located here are some of the files: (Updated soon)

Joergs Airport Pack 2.3

dannyboi888's Airport Pack

Simwings Pack 2.2

Soon to come!!: (Click on picture for link)

By Toxicpiano and kaji

By kbooms1w

Anymore anyone can think of?quote>

A little confused...soon to come Jeorgs Airport Pack v2.3 (I only can find v1.3) and dannyboi888's airport pack (can't find this one at all)?

[emsgoof 1]

The people complaining about flat runways are amusing at best...

I wish they'd make the runway where I fly out of flat... There's a most irritating dip in it right about where you land, so you end up landing twice... every time!

Here are some "not flat" runways for your amusement... (the quotes because I don't think I've EVER flown into or out of a flat runway)

Lukla, Nepal. The helicopter is on the runway. It's used daily by helicopters and fixed wing aircraft.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0343027/L/

Catalina Island, CA

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0203719/L/

Courchevel Altiport, France

http://www.higher.flyer.co.uk/html/lflj.html

Falwell Airport (yes, named for the Rev. Jerry) Lynchburg, VA

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1056153/L/

There are many more out there. You can also find airport runways that are curved...

Swope Farm Airport, Fan Rock, WV

Elk City Airport, Elk City, ID

[bighaben 0]

While those are great for very powerful single engine planes, they still barely work, the airport shown here has 747's which would never land at one of those airports. Albeit very cool to land on a slope like that its just not going to work for a 747. Even if it did, it would not work for a fully operating international airport.

[krbe 193]

While it's hard to get them "flat", they do try their best--but the "dip" bit is pretty normal I believe. The airport in my old hometown has an 8 metres difference between the highest and lowest point, that's also with a dip in the middle. And I believe it has taken a 747 SP incoming from Santiago in Chile once; the runway is 2000 m (the safety/fire crew has/has had plans fro evacuating a DC-10 as the largest plane).

But this one was pretty bad (a 45 metres difference!)

[Superchan 23]

you do realize that all those airports have one thing in common, there used by GENERAL AVIATION, sure a 172 could take off from an unlevel, and curved ruwnay (i knew curved runways existed) but a 747 cannot take off of curved runways, a slight slope would be ok, as long as its flat as in the same grade all the way, just sloping slightly.

[Voulpiotis 4]

Wow, this is amazing work!! So much detail!

[liryon 0]

Yet another real airport with an inclined runway. Landing up hill is reccomeded for extra breaking, and taking off downhill provides a much needed speed boost.

[SimHoTToDDy 2,939]

I hate to brake the ice on the bumpy runway topic, but here I go!

Lots of people pointed out my airport in my cj, so I thought you might like it! Well, It just so happened that I had been wanting to make an airport for a long time and so I made it happen. The only problem, though, is that... its sideways damnit!

As you can see I worked it out!

Pictures of the terminal:

Closeups:

And the whole thing:

This thing took me FOREVER to finish... all diag. pieces

But... I think It came out alright. It costs my city about 50k a month though lol! the small hangers at the bottom of the last pic are for the lil prop planes that might want to fly in. ITs seperate because I would have never been able to fit it into the already cramped main terminal... So I can say theres a underground rail that gets them over the runways (or I could say "I MAKE MY SIMS RUN FOR IT!!!")

Here's a closer view of where everybody parks. They drive in on the highway or by rail, and hitch a ride on a bus to their terminal. (a slow day today lol)

Hope you liked it!

   -Todd

[allez l'om 1]

very great airport but the runways are strange!!! how your planes can land or take off!!!lol

[wannabe123456789 0]

here are some pictures of my newest airport

 

[wannabe123456789 0]

some more

[wannabe123456789 0]

I am having trouble uploading the pictures

[bighaben 0]

SimHoTToDDy: Fantastic airport, the fact that its diagonal is awesome, I can see that being a world famous airport to land at.  Just one thing, the buildings at the end of the runway are far to high you dont' want 747's in office buildings.  Other then that I commend you on your fantastic work!

[MCO1254 2]

I've wanted to post one of my airports for a while now. This is Ellisburg Intl. an airport that has grown pretty close to it's capacity with very little room for expansion.

This first picture shows the original terminal far to the left along the avenue, with the newly remodeled Intl. Arrival Terminal. On the other side of the two NWA 747's you can see Terminal One's two domestic concoures. Outside of the terminal you can see the monorail that now links the airport with downtown Ellisburg. On the other side of the runway you can see the western half of the cargo ramp. 

This is a zoomed in view of the International terminal. This KLM 747 just arrived from Schipol Airport in Amsterdam.

As we move farther East we see the other half of the cargo ramp (upper left), Terminal 2 (bottom), the Heavy Maintenance hangers (right) and the Executive Termianl (upper right). Ellisburg Intl. (KELL) is not a hub for any major carriers but does have the capabilities to perform heavy maintenance and they are used heavily by United. 

United is the main carrier out of KELL, operating 40 daily flights. Currently they only operate two aircraft types out of KELL, the 737-300 and the CRJ-700.

Terminal Two is mainly a domestic terminal, but it does have customs desks for two daily Westjet flights and an Air Canada flight. Winnipeg, Toronto and Ottawa are all serviced by these two carriers. 

The Biz Jet ramp at Ellisburg Intl. consists of several hangers and two main terminal buildings. The newest having opened in 2005. They are accessed by Stewart Blvd. to the north of the airport.