Scottys stuff

[Jasoncw 11,841]

It looks a lot better. 

[scotty222 549]

Thanks Jason

Well ive done some nitelites

I had some intense lites but i decided to tone it down as its more of a fillr skyscraper (boxy)

also a day pic to compare

any suggestions?

[jacqulina 162]

great progress your doing

[Dale Kent 28]

I used to work there, good job.

[Alien_397 8]

I really like your progress on this building, that new roof texture really looks good.

The only concern I have about the nitelights is how this:

will actually look on a lot, as it seems as if it will be abruptly cutting off the light effect you've used here where it can't carry over onto the ground.  Nothing major, just something to look at.

Everything else about the nitelights looks great.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Wow, the day render looks absolutely superb now!

However, I'm not sure about the night lights. Office towers are not hotel towers, where you have lots of individual rooms with single windows that are either lit or not. In office towers, you have larger office spaces spanning multiple window panes, hence the lit areas would tend to be horizontal bars of adjacent windows instead of randomly scattered individual window panes, as would be the case with a hotel tower. How exactly is this building used? Even if it is a hotel, though, I think the rooms would be wide enough to span 2 window panes.

The same goes for the lobby, only in vertical terms as well: I can imagine that the lobby has higher ceilings and hardly any dividing walls or floors in it so that its light could probably be seen through the lowest 2 or 3 rows of windows. Of course I don't know the real-life building, so I can only speculate.

The following pic is probably not from that building, but it illustrates what I mean:

http://home.flash.net/~ral1/starbucks/bigimages/DSCN2884.htm

Anyway, superb progress on that building - and it would look great as CO$$, which would be perfect, because that category is sorely underrepresented. Good luck finishing this beauty!

[scotty222 549]

Alien_397 - i forgot about that, i think ive got a way to fix it now though

T Wrecks - Thanks for pointing that out i thought they looked funny, Ill try to fix that tonight

on the base the lites are awful in my opinion and thats top of my list to fix

[bixel 1,223]

I am going to give you some advice....the same I gave CDI you might try it. But you want to save as a new version before doing this.

Since you are making an office building, they do not have separate rooms like this residential does. Ungroup all the windows. So instead of randomly assign nightwindows instead I would collapse a window into a mesh and attach either the entire floor or half of the floor of windows.

like thus

CCCCCCCDDDDDDD

EEEEEEEEEGGGGGGG

HHHHHHHHUUUUUUUU

YYYYYYYYYRRRRRRRR

OOOOOOONNNNNNNN

I made a crappy ascii schematic above to show you what I mean. Be sure when collapsing to select keep IDs, you may want to save before you do this. This way it will keep the current texture and not change all the textures on that floor. After all your floors are done apply the random night window tool - or simple assign them yourself with the proper prefix.

hope that makes sense!

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Another trick that helps is a night map with some variation in brightness in it. The night maps used by the NDEX teams are a good example. They help to create a look that simulates some offices being completely lit, while others only have some elementary lighting left on for the night - maybe the cleaning team is working there overnight?

Colour (or brightness) variations over one set of windows can look as if one or two places were fully lit and the light would shine into the rest of the open office floor, which is not fully lit itself... that kind of stuff.

I'm glad to hear you're on the job already, and given the skills you've shown so far, I don't have the slightest doubt that this will end up as a ~95% rated BAT on the STEX.

[scotty222 549]

Thanks for the advice guys

I re did the nitelites but they were worse than before so im gonna try again later

i hadn't the great tips people had posted before i tried them

sorry bout the lack of anything lately ive been busy with school (darn school )

This is sumthin i cooked up in an hour

First person to guess what it is gets a lollipop (Im bored so i have to start a game)

[jacqulina 162]

great progress your doing here

[T Wrecks 10,209]

I have no idea what this building is, but I do know that I like it so far! The windows are great.

No lollipop for poor T Wrecks, 'tis a shame...

[patriots_1228 51]

no clue lol. looks kinda like one of those old buildings in new york or new england cities.

[scotty222 549]

Ow im sorry t wrecks i might just giv ya one anyway (dont tell anyone)

Clue: Patriots is right its in New england, its pretty well known (I think)

I dont really expect anyone to get it yet

[josefmayor 8]

Scotty doesn't know that his building looks awesome. I love the texture in the building on the top of the pag This new building is neat, looks really neat, windows are great. I think some improvements can be made on the texture. Nice job getting that done in an hour. Grater luv represent yo.

[scotty222 549]

I was playing with some lights on the royal centre, (Playings more fun than doing it properly)

This the least messy thing i came up with

Josef - Thanks the new building isnt supposed to even be brown, thats how bad the textures are

[bixel 1,223]

I think the window textures look awesome! However the nightlights.....

[scotty222 549]

Bixel - The nightelights are ppretty bad arent they

New lights

Im probably gonna fix the lights o the base then render unless there are major suggestions

[Sim shady 12]

the lights look better but i feel like there isnt enough glow of the lights illuminating the walls; it seems like there is just white squares where there is light.

everything else rocks

[Cleaner475 150]

i think you need to ask yourself whether you want lots of nightlights which could make them look overdone or less nightlights which would make it look average but not stand out compared to other BATs

its a great tower though well done and it does look cool at night!

Richard

[T Wrecks 10,209]

I think you got the window textures about right with your final attempt. You could only make the pattern a tad less repetitive. Having strips of several windows lit at a time to simulate office use doesn't mean these strips can't overlap.

You made the pattern a bit like this (O=dark, X=lit):

OOOXXXOOO

XXXOOOXXX

XXXXXXOOO

OOOXXXOOO

Why don't you try something like this:

OOOOXXXXO

XXXXXXXOO
OOXXXOOOO

OOOOOOXXX

I hope I managed to explain what I mean...

As for the spots, the effect itself is rather cool, but the way it is put into practice now, it just doesn't look logical, especially in the angle between that X-shape on the roof and the rooftop itself. The roof is pitch black, and those walls are glaring white. In order to make this effect work better, I think it would be worth a shot tuning it down considerably to make it very subtle. That might sound paradoxical at first, but I can imagine that it might help.

All in all, it's great to see how much effort you put into this and how you don't just say "Bleh, I've had enough" and upload something that's only 80% of what you can do. Thanks for your patience and dedication, and all the best of luck adding the final touches and adjustments to this one! I'll be sticking around...

[scotty222 549]

Thanks for the input everyone

Is this what you meant by the lights T wrecks

Ive dimmed the top lights alot to make it less strange and to make not stand out as much

Simshady-good point something to look at

[bixel 1,223]

Ohhhh!!! That looks really good...hrmmm in fact could you... Well its definetly releasable at this point. If this was my BAT I would release this now, but I am very very very impatient.

One thing you can do, the target lights you are using to light up the building, take the light and move it to z-70 and y-50, and the north light z-70 y50..and then the east light z-70 x50....etc. Also change the color from white to a creme color, to give it that street ambience thing. But this is definetly ready for release imho.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Yes, I agree that this looks quite releaseable.

[patriots_1228 51]

yes definetely releasable. Great work scotty

[allez l'om 1]

I saw that you are making a the philipps governor tower ( in mission impossible 2 with tom cruise) in sydney. When do you will release it?

congratulations for your hard work and your new zeland bats because noone don't make from bat from NZ

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Well, sam_lawrence has made the Auckland Skytower, and there was also a modern library by him that might have been BATted based on a real one in NZ. But yeah, other than that, NZ is not really well represented so far.

[hyped_up_boy 15]

is it possible to light up the RBC signs at the top of the tower? if not, then i think this building is ready to go! keep up the good work!

[scotty222 549]

allez l,om - i forgot about that i might get back to it soon

Hyped up boy - ive tried about 10 different things up there and honestly no lights look the best

well if its ok im gonna render now

[allez l'om 1]

okay i am patient it is was to know. I love your buildings i didn't know that in NZ there is towers like that