NEBB BAT thread

[patriots_1228 51]

Next i gotta do the thinner lines on the windows, the roof, which i did good last time, so that should be easy. Then the base, which could be a disaster like last time. finally after that textures and nightlighting.

heres some shots of 111

nightlights will be hard

im definetely making this one of those buildings that overhangs the lot so that it can be diagonal or curved.

[scotty222 549]

111 looks good so far but it look like it will get had at the top

Close up shot of Hancok if you want to see in detail

[patriots_1228 51]

actually the top was pretty easy last time, and it was the best part of my model.

and the han***** looks amazing great job! your almost done already. all you need to do is add all the spires on the roof, do the lights, and the entrance.

[hydra 4]

Looks nice patriots_1228 nice textures and it well you know by what i think of you some as reat of ya don't get upset.

It just let me say fantastic work.

[scotty222 549]

Don't forget the textures man ,its not textured yet

and you did the top great last time

also i would  like to know waht sort of colour i should use for the glass a light or a dark blue or something in between (please show an example of colour)

[patriots_1228 51]

i think the thing i used for exchange place might work. or a light blue

hydra-thanks, its not textured yet. i couldnt understand the last part lol

[lrfox 2]

@Scotty- I think that the blue should be a lighter one. The reason is that the Hanc0ck tends to be darker or lighter depending on the weather. As you know, the weather in SC4 is always sunny (except for those whispy clouds).  So, the color of the tower should reflect how it would look on a sunny day (in my opinion).

i don't have a pick, but if you go here https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?page=1&Keyword=paulvmontfort&view=all

and look at paulvmontfort's HK Island ShangriLa Hotel and his Conrad International Hotel, i think you'll see a good glass texture for the hanc0ck. it's worth taking a peek.

i'll try and insert a pic of his ShangriLa hotel here. if it doesn't work, check that link. it looks awesome by the way. nice work

[hydra 4]

Ya i know some of the words i type are worng but don't blame me blame the keyboard.

And here it is.

Oh no textures yet opps.

[franky_83 8]

Some very impressive bats coming up...can't wait to use them in my upcoming CJ. Anyway, I've gotten around to doing more on 60 State Street. I've still got to finish making all the windows, the rooftop, base, and nightlighting. I hope to have the whole thing rendered by Friday. For now, here's the latest update:

I'm still dissatistifed with the texture(s) so I will go over these and try to make them as likewise to the actual building itself.

[scotty222 549]

Looks great Franky i hope it can get rendered

Having a texture problem wit Han*****

(Keep in mind none of textures final especially roof)

As you can see the texture gets sort of dragged down on the left

and i would know if anyone knows how to solve it (Probably a simple answer)

[franky_83 8]

Scotty, have you tried removing all UVW coordinates and then remapping it, perhaps box mapping? Just an idea...if you want, attach the file and I can try and adjust it for you.

[scotty222 549]

Tanks for that i fixed it yay

better show a good pic

[lrfox 2]

@ scotty- that looks incredible. nice work the glass looks real. very nicely done.

@Franky- that's an awesome model. nice job.

[patriots_1228 51]

wow guys thats insane both of you.

im still working on the thinner lines for 111, im going to need a while to make things less sloppy. maybe ill show a pic in an hour.

[patriots_1228 51]

A lot of  things to discuss.

recruiting-

Were pretty much set, we have 6 total members, and 5 BATters, but i would like a modder 

Logo-

NEBB needs a logo ! all the major 4 BAT Teams have great logos that you recognize the moment you see them. Ive got some ideas, give me yours too, try and make them boston themed. We will put this on Stex upload pictures, avatars, signature pics(that are about NEBB), and Banners.

Team Room-

This ones the biggest. getting our own team room makes NEBB one of the big BAT teams. I just need to know what the requirements are, so they can be met. any way heres what the layout would be like

-NEBB Team Thread

for news and info

-Patriots BATs

-Scottys BATs

-Lrfoxs BATs

-Frankys BATs

-Lamasses BATs

-Boston New England disccusion thread

for just talkin about Boston

-Show us how you use NEBB BATs

so we can see how people use our BATs

-NEBB Wants You

the recruiting thread

-NEBB Bug report Thread

for when i mess up

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progress on 111- Im still working on the smaller window frames. i may just redo them on the corners cuz they are giving me nightmares right now. I may finish this step by friday, im rather busy all of the sudden.

other news on my BATs-Ill be doing disney BATs for the WDBT or wutever its called also. my next project will be 101, then the federal bank reserve, then another office park. im thinking of combining my pru,111, and 101 remakes after they are all uploaded and making the whole complex.

[franky_83 8]

With the finish date set for Friday, I'm glad to present another update on 60 State Street. I'm currently working to finish the rooftops, base, and add the nightlighting. I'll need to bake the reflective textures in order for them to show up in Gmax. 

I'm not sure when I'll get it uploaded as I still have the lot to make. I was unable to find some good shots of the base of the tower, so if anyone comes across any, it'd be of help as it will take some of the guess work out of making the first floor. 

I'll update again soon after the base and roof are finished.

Patriots, good idea on getting a logo. I'll see if I can come up with an idea if I get enough time.

[hydra 4]

Modder him file me in please?

[jacqulina 162]

wow some excellent work and progress in here

[patriots_1228 51]

awesome franky.

hydra i dont understand what you said

[hydra 4]

Sorry Patriots I was in a hurry.

What i was trying to say is fill me in about the modding are please.

[scotty222 549]

Wow that looks great frank and i just noticed 60 state street is basically the same

shape as the tallest building in my hometown

Done work on the base butim having trouble with my internet connection but i got

a little bit of a peek i windowslive and got this

open to any critisism and i mean ANY

Also guys im doing one financial center after hancok and lincoln

[patriots_1228 51]

hancawk looks pretty good, i was just looking at a picture of some boston golf course in the Boston Globe Sports section, and saw that building. it reminds me of the Metlife building in New York.

Hydra-o now i understand. modder would do things like add jobs(im capable of that) querys(not capable) and TE(Capable)

edit- 111 huntington-im halfway done with the thin lines, yesterday i got bored so i stopped, but i finish the across part now i gotta do the vertical part. 

[hydra 4]

He i do that allready at home when downloads models and change them to a building type of my choice lot it then play the game to see what it looks like.

[franky_83 8]

Nice model Scotty...looks great!

Thanks to all for the nice comments. Here is my last update before rendering. I just need to adjust the tower base, the textures and add nightlighting. I'll hopefully be able to get it done tomorrow before work. 

[patriots_1228 51]

Wow franky awesome job definetely a perfect debut BAT for NEBB. cant wait. do you no how to add jobs?

[franky_83 8]

I've added jobs before to my SCFTower but I can not edit the UI or make it growable (grows after plopping).

[patriots_1228 51]

k sounds good

[Jasoncw 11,937]

It's great that you're setting goals and providing leadership.  Maybe I can give some advice.

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 A lot of  things to discuss.

recruiting-

Were pretty much set, we have 6 total members, and 5 BATters, but i would like a modderquote>

A good solid modder is extremely important.  NDEX collapsed because of a modder shortage, and I know that if I didn't have someone modding my stuff, my projects would take even longer than they do already!   This is your NUMBER ONE priority.  Once you find (or make, if you can't recruit one), have that modder teach the BATers the basics, so that if worse comes to worse, the rest of the team can carry on.

Logo-

NEBB needs a logo ! all the major 4 BAT Teams have great logos that you recognize the moment you see them. Ive got some ideas, give me yours too, try and make them boston themed. We will put this on Stex upload pictures, avatars, signature pics(that are about NEBB), and Banners.quote>

What does a logo do?  Does it BAT anything, or modd anything?  No, it doesn't.  But it can provide a more professional image, and it can create some team identity, and it can show that your team is united.

But logos can also be very easily seen as something childish.  I don't know about you, but when I was in Elementary School, every week a group of people would make a club, and then make logos and mottos, and passwords, and assign who was the president, and co president and vice co president and generals, and all of this other stuff.  Most teams that start up reminds me of Elementary School.  Remember that the focus is recreating landmarks from your region.

I recommend a small, modest, but well designed logo.  Include it on uploads to the STEX, and maybe in people's signature.  But don't plaster it all over everything you touch, or it will look silly.

If you'd like, I can help you guys design a logo.

Team Room-

This ones the biggest. getting our own team room makes NEBB one of the big BAT teams. I just need to know what the requirements are, so they can be met. any way heres what the layout would be like

-NEBB Team Thread

for news and info

-Patriots BATs

-Scottys BATs

-Lrfoxs BATs

-Frankys BATs

-Lamasses BATs

-Boston New England disccusion thread

for just talkin about Boston

-Show us how you use NEBB BATs

so we can see how people use our BATs

-NEBB Wants You

the recruiting thread

-NEBB Bug report Thread

for when i mess up

quote>

When it comes down to it, why do you need a team room?  The only reason you want a team room is for "status" and to make yourself feel official by having extra bureaucracy.  All of those things you listed can be done (and have been done) in this thread just fine.

Have a well organized and clear first post (your current first post is sort of messy and disorganized, which makes the team look less competent, and makes people less willing to join) can take care of recruiting, the team's purpose, and can direct people on how to report bugs.  Everyone can show their BAT progress, and people can talk about Boston in the current thread as well.

The HKABAT team got their own room because they had one thread which was bursting at the seams (TONS of posts every day), and they simply needed more space.

And also looking at your first page, there are some things in particular that you need to do something about.  First off, NEBB does not have almost 180,000 downloads, it has about 16,500.  The BSP has about 17,500, and I know there are more teams that have more than the BSP.  Sparkythepenguin has more than 38,000 downloads alone, and there are other big name people who are part of that project.  Buffalo's project also has a ton of downloads.  XDesign_Team has almost 60,000.  And even if NEBB was the 5th biggest group on Simtropolis, why would you write about it?  Remember that the purpose is to BAT your home city, not anything else.

Second, is the cracked out formatting.  My favorite first post is the Barry Sander's Project's ('cause I'm the one who wrote it ).  Notice the clear labels, the well written information, the lists, the tables, the links.

So right now, in order, I would say your goals should be:

1.  Stay focused!

2.  Secure a stable modder.

3.  Design a logo.

Remember your ultimate goals are to have fun BATing, let other people have fun playing with your creations, creating the extra joy that everyone has seeing something from their city in SC4, and sharing your great city with people from all over the planet.  Remember that your goals are not downloads, or team rooms, or status, or bureaucracy.  If you keep those positive things in mind, NEBB will have a long, fun, happy and productive life. 

[scotty222 549]

Jasoncw- i agree with pretty much all you are saying there (im not going to mention specifics), took a while to read though

im not really going to worry bout all the stuff at the moment because i just want to BAT and play SC4 at the moment and stay away from all the other orginizing stuff, i really do agree that we do need a modder though because personally speaking im horrible at it and it might delay my future releases by weeks or more due to frustration

Franky- looks great but i agree that the base needs work

On Hancok ive started a roof but thats not what the update is about

ive decided to try doing 2 versions of Hancok the original lighter oneand a darker one

im going to have to adjust the textures on the darker one so certain parts dont stand out from the dark glass

[jacqulina 162]

excellent work guys