SC4Terraformer Support

[wouanagaine 83]

In what kind is it related to SC4TF ?

Do you mean that SC4TF can't render this ?

Do you mean that SC4TF can load the config.bmp but can't import the jpeg ?

[CarmineHilton 6]

wouanagaine

I just can't do it, I don't know the program, ...

So plz? Can you do it 4 me?

[jacqulina 162]

wonderfull tutorial my friend

[bat 6]

great tutorial - but where is step 3? There are step 2 and step 4, but no step 3!

bat

[wouanagaine 83]

CarmineHilton, the link for SC4TF is one my sig ( click the image ). I can't do it for you, or more precisely I can't upload the result to you, it will be too big.

Jackie thx a lot

bat there won't be any step 3, never

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btw SC4TF v1.0c can be downloaded on the other SC4TF Thread ( check it here ). Check the new features !

the little error I found on step 8 is now corrected ( for v.09c users, just enter 0 as min height )

[CarmineHilton 6]

I finally know how it works! But Dubai With Palm Jumeirah doesn't has a Config.BMP! And I need it to make the region, so where can I find one that is also 3009x3009?

Thank You!

[kamidan 0]

I dont want to be an alarmist or anything and perhaps it's already been reported, but......

My AVG virus scanner (with the latest virus definitions as of 09/10/2006 is reporting a virus in the uninstall.exe.

The reported virus is the Trojan horse Downloader.Zlob.DKM

I've only downloaded it from the simtropolis website and it's probably just a false positive but never the less I'd like to hear if anybody else that is using a different scanner than the AVG scanner is also getting this reported to them.

To be honest I have no idea what the Downloader.Zlob.DKM actually is, and for all I know theres nothing wrong with it and perhaps AVG just wants to alert me to it, but I'd appreciate it if the author of the program would let me know if it's just a false positive or if somehow it's become infected on the server.

Thanks,  See attached screenshot:

[wouanagaine 83]

carminehilton, you should built a config.bmp of 47x47 under paint ( there is a sticky thread in the map forum )

kamidan Should be a false positive, you can check some posts in this thread and in the dev thread related to that.

There still is a possibility that new virus dfinitions handle case of unknow virus when I made it. I also have AVG Free edition at home, I will try it again

Take care

[wouanagaine 83]

Clarifications

so it seems that after updating my virus definitions, AVG find the same Trojan horse Downloader.Zlob.DKM on my original file

after scanning thru all my disks, it is the only one infected

regarding the date of creation of SC4Terraformerv09cPatched.exe, I wonder why it is only with the last virus database definition that AVG find this trojan

Googling for Downloader.Zlob.DKM does not bring anything, searching the Virus Encylopedia at grisoft does not bring anything

So if the virus is a new one, then this can't be a true positive because the SC4Terraformerv09cPatched.exe was made 3 months ago ( and 3 months in virus area is history ).

and if the virus is an old one, AVG would have included in its database previously

I assume we can safely tell it is a false positive

anyway you can still grab a fully scanned with today virus database file copy of SC4TFv1.0c on this page of the SC4TF Dev Thread

[kamidan 0]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Since I wipe my HDD's clean every 6 months I've just let AVG quarantine it away and if I ever want to uninstall it, I'll just let it sit on my HDD until I do my next disc wipe just for safetys sake since the rest of the program doesn't bring up a warning I feel relatively safe using it. It wouldnt be the first program that a virus scanner has tagged as a virus, that wasn't actually a virus but better safe than sorry.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my concerns,

[Bones1 96]

My copy of AVG detected a virus/trojan with the latest installation of this program.

While it's certainly possible that it's a false-positive, I think anyone is foolish to install this program until AVG and Norton clears this up. It sounds like a really cool program, but it's not worth taking the risk of having your computer infected with a trojan.

I've read the previous posts about why some users think that it's a false-positive, but they just don't seem overly convincing. At least, not enough to ignore a warning from the anti-virus software.

Hey, I really hope AVG and Norton are wrong. But, I'd prefer they clear it up. People ignore warnings at their own risk. Just seems like a foolish risk to take in this case.

It's kind of like driving along a road and seeing a "BRIDGE OUT AHEAD" sign. Your passenger tells you, "Don't worry about it. I've driven this road before and never had a problem. It's a new sign, but sometimes those signs get put up without the bridge really being broken."

[jplumbley 5]

@Bones1 I am one of the testers for this program... I have had multiple versions of this program installed many times. I have had multiple DIFFERENT torjans "found".... Not once have I had it spread beyond the exe files of SC4TF. In my opinion that would be considered a false positive as the goal of a trojan horse is to spread as quickley as possible. I have not taken any quarentine measures and have not had a single problem with a virus. It is your in your own opinion to not use the program but it is not foolish as there hasnt been a single problem beyond the exe. This IS a problem for AVG and Norton, and that's thier problem but it is safe to use SC4TF. If there are any problems I gaurentee it has nothing to do with downloading SC4TF as I have proven that it cannot be by installing and testing EVERY release, patch, etc. before they are released.

[wouanagaine 83]

ok, as I already post it somewhere else ( in this thread or the dev one )

here the definitive link to false positive in using NSIS ( the installer I use for SC4TF )

http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSIS_False_Positives

Now this will be history, as I decided to upload a new version of SC4TF that is free of virus as of today AVG database. The upload will be done today or tomorrow with a picture of my AVG scanning the file

[wouanagaine 83]

I'm currently in the process of uplaoding v1.0c without any installer, just a zip file as the false positive where on and only on the installer, not the program

Once done, I will update the SC4TF download in the modds&download and then everyone can be up to date and check that there is no virus in the zip

here is the proof with today virus database

[Bones1 96]

Originally posted by: jplumbley @Bones1 I am one of the testers for this program... I have had multiple versions of this program installed many times. I have had multiple DIFFERENT torjans "found".... Not once have I had it spread beyond the exe files of SC4TF. In my opinion that would be considered a false positive as the goal of a trojan horse is to spread as quickley as possible. I have not taken any quarentine measures and have not had a single problem with a virus. It is your in your own opinion to not use the program but it is not foolish as there hasnt been a single problem beyond the exe. This IS a problem for AVG and Norton, and that's thier problem but it is safe to use SC4TF. If there are any problems I gaurentee it has nothing to do with downloading SC4TF as I have proven that it cannot be by installing and testing EVERY release, patch, etc. before they are released.quote>

 

Well, I still think it is foolish to ignore virus warnings. What "guarantee" do you give that it's really a false-positive? Are you willing to accept financial liability if someone's office computer is infected and the company has to spend 1000's of dollars to lock down their network or they lose sales as a result of network downtime? As a word of advice, you should be very careful of publicly stating guarantees like that, because you may be opening yourself up to lawsuits if it does turn out to be a virus. Mostly likely won't happen from a gaming group, but you should know it's a litigous world out there. People have been sued over things a lot more trivial.

But it's a moot point in this case anyway. The author is uploading a version that doesn't trigger virus warnings. Excellent of him, IMO, and the best solution. Great support!  

[beskhu3epnm 8]

You shouldn't be using SC4TF in your office.

[jplumbley 5]

Man if you use this program at work and cause a virus that doesnt exsist anyways and your work tries to sue me. My defense will be that it says USE AT YOUR OWN RISK in the read me. And then tell them if they want to sue someone sue the one who loaded it on the computer even after an encounter with his virus scanner.

I will once again re-state. I have tested EVERY release, patch, etc. and have encountered multiple FALSE POSITIVE reports as not once has there been a spread of the "so-called" virus. This would then again prove that it is NOT a virus and a FALSE POSITIVE as it does NOT SPREAD!!!!!

[Bones1 96]

Originally posted by: beskhu3epnm You shouldn't be using SC4TF in your office.quote>

 

Why not? Jplumbley's already guaranteed to accept all the risks!  

[wouanagaine 83]

V1.0c is now uploaded and the modds&download section has been updated

[wouanagaine 83]

With the up to date virus definition of AVG , ie 268.12.4/448 released today, the v.09c installer  file is NOT infected !

Something smells like a false positive

Quite funny enougth to be mentionned

[LivingInThePast 364]

Port it to Mac. Please.

[jplumbley 5]

Unfortunately, Wouanagaine has already stated he is unable to do that himself. He has already said he is willing to give the code to someone willing to try. 20% of the program was done using C I believe which is the hard part to port.

[mrboo001 12]

When I try to export a map as a greyscale, all I get is black. Does anyone know whats worng with it? (The map was maded with the program)

[topcliff 1]

Hello all, I just downloaded this tool. Tried to try it out, but all I get is a red X that says LoadLibrary not found. Did I do something wrong? Please help. TopCliff

[RebaLynnTS 275]

I downloaded the program, read the read me file (before doing anything else), updated everything as instructed, and ... it works GREAT!! What I don't understand is why it is so hard for most people to FOLLOW DIRECTIONS!!

Something else, having two monitors is definantly a plus with this program

Becca

[MallowTheCloud 41]

Hmm... I have an odd problem.

The first few times I used 1.0, it worked great! I tried loading png images as maps, and they all came out fine. I even quit and restarted the program many times without a problem.

However, recently, when I start the program, the window showing the "loading" information does not come up. Much worse, however, is that the main window never shows up. Every other window comes up (the preview map, the brush size/strength window, and the window to determine which cities won't be changed all come up fine). Any ideas?

[wouanagaine 83]

@mrboo001 : 16 bit png are very dark by essence, it is normal, try reimporting the png into a flat region you will see the landscape you made

@topcliff : Are you sure eveything is updated ? MSVCP71.dll is on your c:\windows\system32 ? D3DX9_30.dll is located in c:\windows\system32 ?

@RebaLynnTS : I agree, or if you can have 1600x1200 also

@MTC : Send me the SC4Terraformer.exe.log that is on the installation folder. Does it occurs on any region or on a specific one ?

Take care

[MallowTheCloud 41]

It occurs on all regions. I have attached the log to this post.

SC4Terraformer.zip

[wouanagaine 83]

hum, it is empty, so I can't help very much . Can you try running the SC4Terraformer_debug.exe and look at the dos console window ? it should display some errors, let me know what it display

As the bug suddenly appears, you may try to uninstall/delete and reinstall SC4TF

Take care

[wouanagaine 83]

@MTC :

before uninstalling I have another suggestion, if you use v1.0c I added a windows positions saving feature, so that each time you rerun SC4TF your windows are in the same place as the last time. as the log is empty, I can think that the main window is set out of your desktop. try remove the config.ini and rerun SC4TF.

If it does not work, then clean and reinstall

Take care