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Ya and Maxis made Simcity 4 mod-able and that was how the comunity fixed their problems for them. And this is standard gaming tradition. Sheesh I'd think any regulars who play games would remember this.

Updates 8 said that all the traffic/employment/zoning should be fixed but all of those remain issues. But wait, you can pay for an expansion, which is developed on top of the broken original game, that promises it will fix the original game? How delusional do you have to be to not see through this scam? You can't put stability into a game that was broken in the first place. So if EA wanna fix their product, make Simcity 2014 and put the expansion into that one. Not putting a broken expansion on top of the broken simcity 2013.

This is no longer true. I think everybody is pissed off because the game just doesn't work anymore. Right now, the only problem Simcity 2013 is having is the game itself. After 8 updates + zones still develop and abandon without any reasoning. And this is what pisses me off the most. Not because of what it says, but what it implies. I feel that EA deliberately do this so that I have to stay online for an inane amount of time just for a glimpse of hope that my city actually will develop. Some of my cities will reach 100,000 population in less than 5 minutes. Some cities take over 1 hour to reach 12,000 sims. How do you explain that? + employment and unemployment arises and go away without any reason. As I posted above, I had a city with 72,000 sims but my sewage and highschool has no employee at all, they simply say unemployed. Then suddenly my entire city abandoned because crap just spill everywhere in their buildings. + some buildings next work up to their potential and EA never explains why. Like the Pro-stadium, I have 4 cities with combination of 500,000 sims. I even have ecology but no, I can never fill up the stadium. Everytime I host the World Concert, I only make negative 300 or even more. It does not matter if all my 4 cities are made out of high wealth or medium wealth or low wealth, the stadium never fill up. And don't even try to tell me that my traffic is bad, it is connected by avenue, train, airport, and buses. I mean what else am I suppose to do here? + And how about the trains, EA makes it so that you are only allowed to have 1 train station. If you make 2, then the train users just get divided. How stupid is that? Imagine NY has 1 train station, ya using the train station will be like having a huge orgy during any hour of day where everybody is reprensented as a binary number for practicality sake. + Trees server as vanity now because they don't remove pollution, more useless feature. Have you seen this guy built a city without any trees but still make 17,000 simoleans per hour using his slave low wealth workers? I mean what is the point anymore for aesthetic value in this game + Yes I already removed the game, I just couldn't take it anymore. I felt like EA deliberately, purposely bug the game to make people linger longer online. Then they continue issue patches saying they're fixing the problems but obviously the patches have been doing nothing because the game isn't broken, it was design this way, deliberately. Just like I always joke at Staples saying that HP write broken code to make cheap printers print slow. And on their expensive HP printers, they write good code to make it run fast, duh????? This is no conspiracy because just look at EA< they're doing the same thing.

I agree. I think EA needs to fix this dump SC2013 before developing an xpac. Even with the Updates 8, SC2013 is still broken. I still cannot build great works. My city has 76000 sims but my school has no employee and suddenly when I demolish a high-wealth residential area, my sewage just became abandoned then my entire city got abandoned, 76000 sims and no employees? Oh and hear this. With the new updates, things are even more screwed up. I have 3000 un-employed sims but at the same time I have no employees in commercial area. And wait, my commercial area actually satisfies my city (zero unsatisfied). What does this suppose to mean?

The tunnels are still not working with the latest patch. Most of the time, the game is telling me my tunnels are below the water table, how stupid is that. Even when I tried to build a tunnel on a hill, how is that reaching the water table already? A broken patch on a broken game creates a bigger broken game. It has been 3 weeks now and none of the cities in my region can build a Great Work. All of the Great Works are still in approving state. I paid for this game and now I can't even play it. This is so embarrassing.

I notice that you are only selling computers, this will not maximize your profit. From my experience, 1 electronic factory with 4 computer modules can only produce as much as an electronic factory with 2 computer modules. So just sell computer and tv concurrently, this will maximize your profit.

my money strategy is to always get 1x processor factory and 2x electronic factories. That will get you 1.5 mil simoleans per day super easily. OMG this is the craziest strategy ever. I never thought of it would work, making arcology and then bulldoze all residentials. I will try it tonight hahah.

From my experience, to have a successful city (dont mean it is balanced), you want to reach about 50,000 sims (with only high-wealth sims) or 90,000 sims (mixed high and medium-wealth sims), have all commercial, residential, and industrial zones within the same city. To know if Commercials satisfy your sims, look at the "Shoppers" area, if the number is 0 then you are OK. This doesn't mean your commercial building won't get abandoned though, it will bc this game is screwed. To know if Industrials satisfy your sims, look at "unfullfilled freight order." If this number is 0 then you're ok. From my experience, it does not matter if you balance all 3 zones because your buildings will always end up saying stupid messages like "abandoned, cannot find work, not enough shoppers, or no skilled workers." It's impossible to balance your city because the game is screwy since the release date.

What's a spur track? Are you saying you connect a road onto the freight terminal?

omg I thought once you build a great work, it is only applied to the city that is in session. If I knew this isn't the case, I wouldn't build 3 different great works for my 3 cities in the same region. F this game is so FFFFFFFFFF FFFFFf

It is true, their servers are completely underpowered to the point where EA gave it its middle finger back in March and never looked back. Why else it has been 2 weeks and my space center hasn't been built yet? EA is still "fighting bureaucracy" and "cutting red tape" on my space center...for more than 2 weeks now. How much longer do I have to wait to build my space center? 1 month? a year?

Spline, I am glad that EA sent its best and brightest President of Product Marketing here to reply to my post, I am humbly touched. FIRST - To buy simcity is to build cities, or not bo build? from Sim-speare Why do you think players are so interested in sandboxing around and the "look of the game" Really? I mean who would buy Simcity 4 or Simcity 2013 to build their dream cities and simply just stare at the marvel of their magnificient cities right? I mean people probably buy Simcity to brew their coffee like Peter, my English bulldog. Sometimes bubu likes cream in his coffee too. I mean do you even know why Maxis created Simcity? Hint -> Read the word "city." Here's an example, World of Warcraft probably refers to a world of many wars that has craft in it. So Simcity probably means a city fill with Sims. So if I buy Simcity, I will do something with a city that has sims in it, whatever sims mean, I don't know people, and doing stuff with city probably means building one. And when you said players don't like "any gameplay challenge Maxis put in there once," you don't mean completing challenges like creating your first residential zone, or reaching 1000 sims. Have you watched youtube and seen cities with over 1 billion sims? The built-in challenges are jokes. Any baby can overcome those in few clicks. Have you played those challenges? No? You aren't a product designer aren't you? Right, you are marketing, you sell. That brings us to the 2nd subject, accessibility SECOND - Accessibility It is so irresponsible to say that you want to make simcity more accessible to new players but you remove 2 of the most accessible features in the game 1) The offline mode - of course, online means accessible and offline means in-accesible, hence off-line mode was removed, wow Why those 3000+ buyers on amazon complaining about this logical derivative? 2) The mods? Ding ding, that or your mother just got out of bed or because mods are too difficult to write and that means they are not very accessible, let's remove them too. THIRD - many players are more interested in being associated with a difficult game, than actually overcoming that difficulty. So you're saying I have logic and creativity skill but I do not want to use those skills to overcome difficulty in a difficult game even though I love playing difficult game very much, which prompted me to pay $30-$60 for a game, of which I know for a fact that is very difficult and very buggy to play, and that after I buy that game, I know for a fact that I will not want to overcoming the difficulty of playing the difficult game that I paid dearly for? Ok ok I shut up, I see the point here. And please don't break my heart by telling me that I'm wrong. I enjoy holding the game in my hands but I don't want to play it because it's too difficult. Omg I see it now, it's like saying I enjoy being around Justin Bieber but I don't want to overcome the difficulty of dealing with his bs. Stupid me. Can you tell me why I built my city like below? Yes yes I like holding the game in my hand too. - I build 2 stadiums, - 3 expo centers, - 6 sleek casinos, - The willis building, empire state building, tokyo tower - 5 ferries (boats), - 2 airports, - 4 municiple buses that come with 96 busses running around my avenues - I also got 6 train stations, - 80 thousands medium wealth sims, - 16 thousands highwealth. - 2 processor factories - 4 electronic factories - 1 trade depot You know I really really want to build 3 stadiums but I run out of space. Oh EA, you just dont want me to have carpal tunnel by making the map size so tiny. Love you. Oh yea and I also want to have over 1 million sims but that is as metaphysical as the upcoming Simcity 2013 patches. This saves me the trouble of installing patches and EA's time and money in developing them. Go team ! And the highways, subways, bicycle lanes, EA removed them all because I think they were too dangerous for my sims to use. After all, there are already mods that create those. But wait, those are just for look, not essential or anything right?

I don't see any relevance in comparing Simcity 2013 with other companies, well I don't know because a game isn't the same thing as a company? Anyone here probably and should have played Simcity 4 Deluxe Edition. You can tell right there that Maxis created SC4 for the player. The city size is huge, you get to build everything in your cities because not only the game already provided the basis (highway, yes where's the highway in SC2013), it also provided mod capability. Then now SC2013 takes away all of that, can you not see the issue here? No. Let me elude you into the wow debacle. Back then in wow burning crusade, you can make mass gold in few hours. You can kill anyone, anytime, and gank them for hours, sure nobody cares, even the game masters don't care. Dungeons were super easy and loots were obtainable by you. You don't need to play with a group, you don't have to be part of a guild. And yes you will be able to do everything like you would with a group, it just takes longer time. Then Activision bought Blizzard, then all of those awesomeness goes away. Do you see the similarity here? Independent developers write the game for the players. Whereas huge conglomerate companies like EA write the game for the cash cow. I love the game, I just hate the fact that EA takes away the stability and essentiality of the game. I feel like EA just wants to make this game super super easy so that even a baby can build a huge city in few minutes. If you think about it, it's actually a very practical and yes very profitable strategy. So yes I will want to sell my games to the 99.99% who won't be building complicate cities with intricated road connections, train, planes, train run over water, multiple municipal buses, multiple train stations, etc...they won't ever complain about these issues. And noone will ever notice hence.

This problem is already a part of the current game. When I make my avenue too long, my zones just lose water, electricity, trash, sewage. Then I have to make it shorter or connect more roads into it. At this pace, I am not surprised that the expansion is going to have the same problem. You can't fix the game if it's already broken at release. I know a game isn't like a car but if you build a game w/o stability, you can't just say ok so I will dwell into these hundred thousand lines of code and somehow stabilize the game. Microsoft can't even fix Windows and they got all the money in the world.

SC4 is broken because even if you have god mod, the game is still broken with traffic completely pack the road, nobody can even move 1 inch. SC2013 is very very good except some critical issues like there is no highway, mass transit is finicky (sometimes the train will not work at all, I don't know why), and freight orders keep saying unfullfilled no matter what you do. To me, SC2013 should sell for $20, not $40. Simply it isn't worth that much.

The blog is bogus. The guy blames on not being able to create a doable game because they don't have enough servers to run their game. That's complete bogus. It's like saying Coke will sell you soda but Coke only have Coke and nothing else. No, Coke has 125 flavors. Ya they make sure you drink until you drop. So yes EA, make the game work because you are selling it, not giving it away for free. I don't care much for bigger citie or offline mode. They need to fix the current critical issues first 1) Add Highways 2) Fix the broken mass transit 3) Unfullfilled freight orders - No matter how many industrial zones I have, I even created a separate city with nothing but poor sims and half of the map are industrial zones, I still have 10,000 unfullfilled freight orders.

Guys I need help bad. The train has stopped coming into my tourist city. My other cities are industrial and electronic. Each of my city right now has only 1 train station b/c some1 said having more than 1 station could trigger a bug. My tourist city has 89,000 sims with mixed medium and high wealth residents and commercial. 1 airport, 1 train station, 3 ferries. Regional bus. My tourist city has 1 pro stadium, 1 expo, 5 casino, empire state, and willis building, tokyo tower. I make $300k in tourist and $500k in casino per day. My hourly expense is between $10,000-$19,000. So my city is sustainable but the train problem kills my stadium. I used to be able to get 15000 people into my pro stadium. Now without the train, I can barely 2000. My industrial city has only medium and low wealth residents and commercial and very high tech industrial. It has 1 train station, 1 airport, and 1 tradeport, 1 regional bus, and a tokyo tower. My electronic city has only high wealth residents, no commercial or industrial. 1 train, 1 airport, and 1 tradeport, and a tokyo tower. Earlier in my tourist city, I have 5 train stations and everything works fine. Then I redo my city and now the train stops comining indefinitely. The station would say riders = 0, waiting 2000. If i turn on region map, I don't see any train coming to my tourist city at all. However, if I load my other 2 cities, I can actually see the trains coming to my tourist city. How does this make any sense? I've already tried placing the station at different location including on the edge, in middle of the map, vertically, horizontally, with and without rail or elevated extension. None of these make my train station works.