Anduin Valley Revisited

[kingofsimcity 5,739]

Wassup Amigo!

Hey, everything in this update is awesome dude!

 

2_01 The Title fishermen seems a  bit odd when there are no fisherman...

2_02 Just Astounding piece of work amigo, your terraforming is top-notch!

2_03 That must have took very long eh?

2_04 Great Close up shot! All you're graphic settings are at high right?

2_05 Oh Holy SimGod...lol

2_06 Jow did you get the horses on the farms....

 

2_07 Very Scenic Road! I call it the Cair Andros Scenic road

2_08 Grab Your surfboards...ahh...high tide....

2_09 Wow, godspeed taxi looks awesome!

2_10 Nice fire station tucked in under the trees, and looks like farhen farms can make some profit.

2_10 Nice Box ya got there. I wonder what dependancy you are missing...

2_11 holy friggin wow! Awesome city shot!

 

Great Job Amigo!

KOSC

[Timbuk2 0]

hey darmok

sry i posted again butt...

 

i was just playing a Lotr game and noticed that Cair Andros is the name of a city in middle earth!

 

did u name it after that?... just wondering

 

my complenments to ur cj by the way!

 

keep up the good work!

 

 

EDIT: sry bout the duble post it said an error acured and...

 

Welcome to page 15!!

 

another edit...: the double post disappeared...

 

 

[Darmok 34]

Ma8thew
Thank you for your regular support! It's appreciated.

jacqulina
jacqulina, thank you for your kind words!

sloppet
I'm a bit puzzled by your question, because you already are a citizen, you received your passport on page 13 update 11 of Belfalas, you even manage the Fisherman's wharf.
 
schooner2
Thanks schooner, glad you enjoy it!

Timbuk2
Hey Timbuk2, thanks! Yep good observation about the water taxi! look below I think that's beter.

Yes, all the names I'll be using are ALL names of cities OR geographical locations in the Lord of the rings trilogy, has I explained in the very first post of the CJ. I guess that I'm kind of nuts about that story! Keep reading it at least once every year since 1981!
 
dhoppeii
Thanks man! sorry 'bout your monitor!

The castle I'll use later in another city. I came up with something else.

The winding roads, well if you want I've prepared a little something, bear in mind that I don't think that I do the best work on winding roads, I won't even call this a tutorial it would be presomptuous let's call this a How I try do it yeah, thats more appropriate!

Alright, lets go
We'll begin with a hill

 

I plop several patches at the base, and then plop TWO patches at each end of the next level.

 

When plopping the two patches at each end doesn't work, I use the lowering terraforming tool, I press SHIFT 1, to have the smallest pointer and then I CAREFULLY lower two patches each end! A and B But I really dont care about whats between them in C

 

After that I use the ROAD tool, rather that the street tool, I get more realistic slopes that way.

 

 

By using two patches, it seems that the square on wich the road lands stays straighter that way, so the rest of the road will look better.

 

And in the end use whatever walls you like, or even keep the rock face, and for a more rural look you can replace the road by a street.

 

Hope that it can help.

And by the way I think that my winding roads need to be improved yet. I think that sometimes they look too stiff I'd like a more sloppy or loose look!
 
Thanks for the comment for the beach I really had fun doing that!
 
Yeah I hate thoses boxes,  but I'm getting better at avoiding them.
 
On the inspiration topic, I really see the CJ's as means of learning, I believe that we all have a lot to learn from each other.

Take care!
 
your_adress_here
 
Hey YAH!, you're right. And you'll see in a few updates that I've worked something out with those winding roads. Don't forget that what you're seeing is praticaly a month old. Thanks for your unbiased opinion.

DragonAnime
Thanks dragon, didn't know you liked penthouses, we'll see what we can do about it.
 
Shadow_Assassin
Sarcasm! well... I can take it!  As I said before I had problems with the BSC farms,  and with the PC crashing all the time I took whatever pics I could.  But be patient. I think It'll improve along the way.

godwin1020
Thanks.
Amigo is spanish and it means friend.
and you wanted some stats. Let's see :
SO FAR :
Minas Tirith : 245,857
Belfalas : 17,660
Region : 263,517
Done but not posted yet.
South and North Cair Andros
Anfalas
Begun and working on :
Dol Amroth

ephorex_77
Thanks for you appreciation!

TheGuardianAngel
Hey TGA! Long time no see! Glad to hear from you. Thank you for those compliments!
 
kingofsimcity
First of all thanks!
Now some answers
1- yes there are, or in fact will be, just look on the beach the little fishing shack! Though I grant you that's pic 2
2- glad you like the terraforming! I'ts getting easier, but lots to learn yet!
3- Not too long in fact, sometimes, more ordinary setups gives me more challenge!
4- Practicaly all at max, except resolution (1280X1024) and no transparent UI.
5- Sim Pray that HE doesn't send you to SIM Hell!
6- They grew form a horse tree....
7- You just named it! I'm keeping that name!
8- Surfboards, bikinis, beachboy's music, LET'S PARTY 
9- Though I should lower it! (see pic above)
10- Hey, give the man a cigar! he found the fire department! You have a keen eye amigo!
11- Yeah the dreaded box!  But I corrected the situation afterwards.
12- Now I try to take more global shots.

Thanks KOSC

Thats all for now,
take care and see you next update!
Darmok

[dhoppeii 12]

Hey Darmok....First off, I think the water taxi station does look better at the lower elevation.....

Thanks for the mini tutorial....I will have to try that in the morning when I get up.

(I usually get an hour or two of game time in on the weekends before everyone gets out of bed)

I really appreciate it anytime someone takes the time to show how they accomplished somthing in their CJ.  As you said, I think we can all learn from each other.

Take Care My Friend....

[creilmann 0]

Beautiful update as usual Darmok.  I love how Belfalas has turned out and it looks like Cair Andros is coming along great as well.  Oh, and thanks for displaying the new pond kit.  I have it, but haven't had the need to use it yet, but now I can't wait. 

I'm looking forward to the next update with much excitement.

 

 

 

EDIT -- Where did you find this?

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//darmok.JPG align=baseline>

I would love to use this for a future town I have in mind!!!

Thank you in advance.

[Chris M 406]

The tutorial was very great for anyone who wasn't sure how to make perfect embankments. I hope to see more of these, even experienced embarkmenter's like myself can use this, thanks man. Well till tommorow, see ya.

-DragonAnime

[jacqulina 162]

great tutorial

[Timbuk2 0]

oooo i knew that all the names were from Lotr (i noticed Minas Tirith but didnt ackknowledge the rest of the cities) ...hehe ...just tesing you

anyway, the water taxi looks much better!

 

keep up the good work!

[your_adress_here 11]

Thanks alot for the tutorial, Darmok! I will use my knowledge wisely!

[rix10 0]

Ooh! Nice tutorial!

[ILL Tonkso 1,238]

The tutorial is very helpfull i get so frustrated when my terraforming and mountain roads dont go right.

[schooner2 2]

Thanks for providing us terrain-challenged folks with some great tips!!    Are those walls from the Japanese gallery thread?

[decola 0]

omg, this region is so beautiful, i discovered it the other day and read through the whole thing, and i must applaude how dedicated and commited you are, keep up the good work, your doing a wonderful modern day spinoff of tolkiens world!

[aldara6166 109]

Darmok,

 

I've been promoting your CJ in my signature for a while now, but I realized I've never really commented...how rude.  So, I'll do so now. 

 

So, here goes 15 pages worth of replies. 

 

First off, I like your picture frames and the headers you use for your updates.  I just use a single graphic at the top of my updates with the exception of the memos that you see posted from one city official to another in my CJ.  Makes me reconsider my style! 

 

I must admit, your initial zoning pic on page 1 gave me much inspiration for Tarrytowne.  You may see some similarities if you look.  Figured it would be the ultimate compliment to try to recreate much of the zoning with my own style and flare. 

 

I like how you terraform and I use that method now myself.  Much easier.

 

I like the terraced areas.  And I like how you look like you may be starting to incoporate the Jap wall sets in the terraced areas too.  I just love those walls.

 

You have a great mix of residential, commercial and industrial zoning.  And it all seems to be in close proximity to each other with little affect on the residential areas.

 

And your parks...just love em.

 

Great CJ.  I've definitely subscribed to this one! 

[Darmok 34]

 

dhoppeii
Hey dhoppe
Thanks, and glad you appreciate. Me It's more between 9 and 11 PM that I've some free time.
Take care

creilmann
Thanks creillmann. For the pond kit I'ts really impressive! I just wish that PEG will find a solution for a one tile width waterfall.
The next update should be tomorrow. I hope!
 
Here's the link for the NexisTerraceHousingProjectPhaseC ver. 1 : https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=Lot&Str=nexisterracehousingprojectphasec

DragonAnime
Glad you liked the tutorial, though I don't feel like one who can give lessons .
Thanks for your continuous support dragon.

jacqulina
Thanks jacqulina!

Timbuk2
Thanks, and If you have more observations, feel free to voice them!
 
your_adress_here
Glad you appreciate it YAH!
  
rix10
Just trying to help, And as I've said, this is by no means a definitive way to do it. I really don't consider myself an expert,  I'm just having fun learning!

ILL Tonkso
First, Welcome to Anduin Valley Ill Tonkso, glad to read you!
Really glad if I've helped you in any way.  It's but a small way to thank you for all the good lots you've made!
 
schooner2
You're welcome schooner, and ONLY the brick wall is a japanese bat, the others are jeroni's, you'll find them with this link : https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=all&category=default&sortby=DatePosted&show=12&Str=jeroni

decola
Welcome to Anduin Valley decola!
A BIG thank you for those compliments.  I'm overwhelmed!  Do come back to visit us, we like company!
 
aldara6166
aldara, first let me Officialy welcome you to our Valley!
Thanks for your appreciation of the aesthetic side of the CJ itself, really glad you appreciate it!
And if I've influenced you in any way, I consider it a great compliment!
I really think that the important thing in SC4 is that even if we take inspiration from one another, we can adapt it to our OWN style and having FUN in the process!

As for the terraforming bit, I've inspired myself in a LARGE way by looking at Jeroni's work, and day after day he stills impress me!

The japanese walls, they are a mixed blessings, in certain circumstances I don't like 'em cause we can see a certain repetition in the pattern, but overall they're very good an brings us a needed variety.

As for the effect of the commercial and industrial, as I've explained in the first page, I use a LOT of mods, including Super Demand, but I must say that even with those, sometimes it takes several months and sometimes years (of game time) to get what I want! The bottom line again is I use mods because I want to have fun with the GAME.
Glad you like my parks, I really like doing them, so relaxing! And one can dream of cities greener and cleaner. 

Oh and I almost forgot, THANK YOU, for the link in your signature, I'm honored!

 

Take care

Darmok

 

[aldara6166 109]

Darmok,

Have you checked out/downloaded PEG's newest version/update of the Pond kit.  There are now left and right sides as well as middle pieces for the waterfalls, so that you can now make a waterfall as wide as you can imagine it.

 

Hope this helps...

aldara6166 (Jason)

[godwin1020 1]

Thanks really for the stats Mayor Darmok, can't wait until next update

[decola 0]

Im rather fond of all the little candid shots of life in your city, and how wonderfully contrived they are.. oh and the tutorials are really helpful, especially for leveling terrain, which before reading your tut's i found quite difficult.
My only critisism is your region view, which sort of looks messy, but ive actually grown to love it.. and top notch work on Cair Andros, it looks like a wonderful little suburb with a somewhat elaborate transport network.. ive actually started building nicer more spacious suburbs in my cities with alot more tree's.. Keep up the good work Darmok!

[Darmok 34]

aldara
Thanks for pointing that out.  But my problem is that I'd like to have a ONE tile width waterfall, so as long that there is a left AND right side, that makes it two tiles wide,  I've tried using only the middle lot, the look is great  in the waterfall itself, but the connecting tiles at top and bottom leaves kind of a unnatural look where it joins with the rest of the pond kit. I guess I'll develop a technique to use it. A big thanks for your concern and help.

godwin
Don't mention it for the stats! It's a great idea, and in the future, when a city is concluded, I'll post an update on the stats. Thanks!

decola
Again thanks for those good, and articulate comments!  As for the region view I could post one with the transportation map instead of the satellite view. And the trees, I really think that it's the better way to improve the look of a city. And it's even ecological! It's a win/win scenario!

And now ladies and gents, gather round the campfire! Cause here's the continuing story of Anduin Valley as told by Ol' Maggot himself.

Update 3
Farms, fishing and tourism!

Please do not be afraid of heights if you want to aplly for a job at this orchard!

More farms

 

Terraforming for the furture High School is beginning!

 

Farms and residential development. All around the island, several towers will be build, mostly for
whale watching.

 

A big dairy farm!

 

Here you can see the Scenic King route with the adjoining trail which leads to Dragon Beach!

 

Yeah I know, must not forget to break, and PLEASE do apply your parking break! (This will be corrected later on).

 

It was bound to happen, the little fishing installations, are quickly outdated, and a bigger wharf is being built, with some tourist shops.

 

Another angle for the new wharf.

 

And to finish this update, two global shots.

 

So this was update 3.

Folks I'm REALLY overwhelmed  by the way this CJ's going, I would never thought that I'd get as great support, good comments and constructive criticism as you're giving me people!  I know i've said it before, but I feel that I must repeat it, because it's more and more true... THANK YOU! for that continuous and good support.
It is so appreciated, and any of you who have a CJ, KNOWS how important it is! THANKS

Take Care
Darmok

 

 

 

[helomoto 28]

Anduin Valley is really nice, you should keep posting that many pics.  I enjoyed it.

[mayormommy 8]

Aha! I knew you had something planned for that beach when I saw you meticulously leveling it. The small farms and wooded trails are great.

[your_adress_here 11]

Another great update! I like the way you changed the winding road, it looks much better now. The new fishermans wharf looks very nice aswell. Keep up the good work!

[dhoppeii 12]

Wow.....Anduin Valley goes completely rural.....I love it I think it is incredible the way you have built to the terrain.  I know how challenging that can be. 

 

Ok, so did the dairy farm grow or did you plop it?  If you did plop, I gotta know the name (you should have figured that eh?)

 

Love the use of the pine trails and the little dirt parking lot for the trails looks perfect.

 

Sorry we are overwhelming you......Guess you'll just have to start making crappy cities....

 

Regards my friend,

 

dhoppe

[Chris M 406]

Hey Darmok,

Andurin valley looks good as it becomes rural in South Cair Andros. I love picture 3_01, that farm right there on the coast is something nice to look at. Picture 3_04 is something to look at too, those farms have a nice color to them, and not something a farm is used to. I also love the tral on the coast. 3_05, what a nbice dairy farm, 3_09 is very nice I love the seaport you have there.

Nice update as usual,

your friend,

DragonAnime

[kingofsimcity 5,739]

Hola Amigo!

I'm honored that you named a trail after me! The update was fantiastic!

 

3_01 I like how you fenced off that part of the farm with a nice tree lined fence. Great work!

3_02 the BSC Farming EP is starting to look good! Hey, I see a truck apperaring out of nowhere!

3_03 A high school! I cna't wait to torture them with homework...

3_04 That House on the top corner looks very different to the rest, maybe because of the trails. I like how the elevated road runs through a forest and farms. Great!

3_05 Eww...I wonder what is all that stuff on that tank..looks like manure. Cowabunga! I wonder what those people must smell everyday... 

3_06 Dragon Beach is Name after DA, and that route looks awesome! Walking along the trail? No problemo!

3_07 Yes. 25 MPH should do it. Make sure people don't get smashed...

3_08 Now thats a fishing village! I love it! I want to go fish....

3_09 Thats friggin awesome! Where did you get those apartments next to the fishing village?

3_10 and 3_11 Awesome overviews! I wonder whats north of this peninsula?

 

Great Job as always Darmok!

Take Care!

KOSC

[nooneatall 6]

Right now, I don't have much more time to comment on the pictures... all that I can say is that I'm with that last update, those global shots are fantastic!
The only thing that I might suggest is having fewer perfect-sqaure farms; instead, try variating the shape a bit, having un-sqaure edges, if you know what I mean... I just can't explain anything tonight...

Keep up the good work!

[decola 0]

Nice.. your city looks very realistic, i could imagine passing by a place like pic 3_05 on route to work or school.. and it looks so clean! Here in Kl very few areas inside of the city centre are so green and clean(and i dont live to far away from there), your city reminds me of when i used to live in Essex with all the trails and grassy areas, i would move in to Anduin if i could (oh, and a transportation map view would be lovely)!

Looking forward to the next update!!

[jacqulina 162]

love the new wharf,the beaches are so nice some lovely detail

[godwin1020 1]

I love to see the Dragon Beach plop with the beach set.

[aldara6166 109]

Date: 5/2/2005 3:10:01 PM Author: Darmok

aldara Thanks for pointing that out. But my problem is that I'd like to have a ONE tile width waterfall, so as long that there is a left AND right side, that makes it two tiles wide, I've tried using only the middle lot, the look is great in the waterfall itself, but the connecting tiles at top and bottom leaves kind of a 'unnatural' look where it joins with the rest of the pond kit. I guess I'll develop a technique to use it. A big thanks for your concern and help.

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The PEG stream kit has a 1 tile wide waterfall...all one piece.

 

Here is a pic from my CJ that show's this waterfall in use.  Not sure if this will fit your needs or not but it is a 1 tile wide waterfall.

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//Smithfield--2--Ponds.jpg align=baseline>