SM2 Water Towers are glitched

[MichaelJBull769 55]

Water isn't flowing out of the the tower after power is given and placed with a pipe

- https://www.sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=3480

 

[MichaelJBull769 55]

Proof that the water towers aren't working as described. Just the two basic ones. Youtube Video Link

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[MichaelJBull769 55]

Definitely a glitch or game glitch since they started working again??? Yeah... :/

[BartonThinks 3,416]

EDIT: Michael was right. There's a glitch in the SC4LOT files for the water towers. I fixed the files, which can be found here.

For those curious, the original building files had their "water source" property set to "Fresh Water." Maxis never properly implemented the fresh water system, so these kinds of lots need to have "Aquifer" as their water source to function properly.

 

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Hi Michael,

I'm not sure what the glitch is that you're describing. The water towers appear to be working in the video. However, the pipes aren't connected to anything that consumes water. The pipes need to be within six tiles of a building to supply that building with water.

[MichaelJBull769 55]

Well they started randomly working again! Very weird!

[MichaelJBull769 55]

Same thing is happening again!

[BartonThinks 3,416]

Hi Michael,

Just to check -- are the pipes from the water tower connected to your residential/commercial/industrial zones? In the video you shared yesterday, the pipes weren't connected to anything, so there was nowhere for the water to go. Or is there something else that I'm missing?

[MichaelJBull769 55]

no the tower isn't showing any water usage or capacity i will take a screenshot to prove it.

 

[MichaelJBull769 55]

I given it power and no capacity is showing on the towers side it says actual capacity 0 when it supplies 26500 cubic litres of water.

[BartonThinks 3,416]

Oh, okay. So I might know what the issue is? Sometimes you need to wait until the next month for the game to process these kinds of stats. Here's a screenshot using the game's standard water tower which has the same issue:

I placed this water tower on January 2, and the "Actual Capacity" was listed as 0 for the entire month of January any time I queried the building. Once I got to February, I checked the query again, and the water tower was fully operational.

(Note: If you have the game on Cheetah speed, the game performs some of these calculations less frequently, so you might need to wait a few months for the water tower to display it's actual capacity.)

[MichaelJBull769 55]

Yeah a month has passed and nothing

 

[MichaelJBull769 55]

While the efficiency lights are on but no capacity is listed (actual water capacity), but the max capacity is. Both the holding tank and water towers are broken right now.

[BartonThinks 3,416]

2 minutes ago, MichaelJBull769 said:

Yeah a month has passed and nothing

 

Is the game running on cheetah speed? If it is, try running it at a slower speed and see if that helps. Otherwise, I'm not sure what the issue might be.

[MichaelJBull769 55]

I've switched from steam to gog games stand alone installer without client.

[MichaelJBull769 55]

yeah the game was on slower speed

 

[BartonThinks 3,416]

Just now, MichaelJBull769 said:

yeah the game was on slower speed

 

Well, nuts.

I'm downloading the water towers now to see if I get the same issue. In the meantime, the only other thing I can think of is to check whether your version of the game has been properly patched or not. That's a bit of a shot in the dark, though.

[MichaelJBull769 55]

ok thanks

[MichaelJBull769 55]

Game version 1.1.641.0 so yes it is patched

[BartonThinks 3,416]

1 minute ago, MichaelJBull769 said:

Game version 1.1.641.0 so yes it is patched

So for what it's worth, I'm getting the exact same issue with the water towers. Sorry for dragging this out so long. I'm looking at the files right now to see if I can pinpoint the problem.

[MichaelJBull769 55]

ok thanks

[BartonThinks 3,416]

Can you try replacing the two SC4LOT files with the ones I've attached to this post? The original files should be located in "Plugins\SM2\Water Towers." If you don't want to remove the original files, you can simply place these files in the same folder. They will load after the original files and override them.

Let me know if this fixes the problem. I was able to get the towers to work with these files, so I'm hoping they work for you too.

Z_PLOP_2x2_SM2 Water tower_25fc4c0f.SC4Lot

Z_PLOP_2x3_SM2 Water tower with pipe_95f83d29.SC4Lot

[MichaelJBull769 55]

ok i'll try it

 

[MichaelJBull769 55]

thks it fixed the issue

[BartonThinks 3,416]

Glad to hear it, and sorry again for the bad advice!

[twalsh102 1,601]

@BartonThinks, did you by chance coordinate with Simmer 2, so that he could correct and re-post his lots?

[BartonThinks 3,416]

1 hour ago, twalsh102 said:

@BartonThinks, did you by chance coordinate with Simmer 2, so that he could correct and re-post his lots?

I posted a comment on the STEX file making a note of the issue, but I'm not sure what the usual protocol is in these cases.

[twalsh102 1,601]

Hoping he's OK. Just checked his profile and he last logged on here at the end of March.  He last logged onto his SC4D account since mid-May.

Content Creators may or may not read comments and reviews based on their previous experience. There's no set protocol for something like this, but you often have a better chance of catching someone's attention with a PM. If you have an account over at SC4D, you might want to drop him a line there as well since he logged in there more recently. This is usually just a common courtesy to a content creator to give them the opportunity to fix any issues that may be found.

I did a little sleuthing by checking all the water facilities I had downloaded.  I only found one other water tower that had fresh water set as the water source. All the other water facilities, including all others from SM2 were configured to use Aquifer. Further sleuthing determined that the Water Tower at issue here was his water facility. He did not release another one for another year, and it had the correct water source configured.  There are a lot of possibilities here as to why just the first one was"broken", and remained that way.

BTW, since SC4Lot, and SC4Desc files are essentially nothing more than text files, and thus aren't usually considered part of the content creators intellectual property, you could, if you wished, put together a new upload, maybe naming it something along the lines of "SM2 Water Towers - FIXED" and explaining your findings and what you did to fix the issue in your description. Then just list SM2's original lot as a Dependency. (for the model).  I'm pretty sure this wouldn't cause any heartburn on anybody's part. If you wanted to do this, ust to be on the safe side, you might consider just touching base with @CorinaMarie for a quick "official" read-out.

 

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

15 hours ago, twalsh102 said:

BTW, since SC4Lot, and SC4Desc files are essentially nothing more than text files, and thus aren't usually considered part of the content creators intellectual property, you could, if you wished, put together a new upload, maybe naming it something along the lines of "SM2 Water Towers - FIXED" and explaining your findings and what you did to fix the issue in your description. Then just list SM2's original lot as a Dependency. (for the model).  I'm pretty sure this wouldn't cause any heartburn on anybody's part. If you wanted to do this, ust to be on the safe side, you might consider just touching base with @CorinaMarie for a quick "official" read-out.

Yep, that would be perfectly fine to do without stepping on any toes.

Or in this case, until SM2 returns, CB and I will act as custodians for the affected file. So, you can do a fix re-zipped completely as if SM2 had done it himself and attach it here (or send it to us via PM). Then we'll update his STEX entry so there's no extra hoops for peeps to jump thru.

[Tyberius06 12,189]

1 hour ago, CorinaMarie said:

Yep, that would be perfectly fine to do without stepping on any toes.

Or in this case, until SM2 returns, CB and I will act as custodians for the affected file. So, you can do a fix re-zipped completely as if SM2 had done it himself and attach it here (or send it to us via PM). Then we'll update his STEX entry so there's no extra hoops for peeps to jump thru.

As an other, kind of custodian of Simmer2's contents, I agree with @CorinaMarie's proposal. The best way to avoid any confusion if the original upload would contain a fix or update. 
Thanks for reporting and taking care of the "fixing" part, though! 

- Tyberius 

[BartonThinks 3,416]

On 9/7/2020 at 5:14 PM, CorinaMarie said:

Yep, that would be perfectly fine to do without stepping on any toes.

Or in this case, until SM2 returns, CB and I will act as custodians for the affected file. So, you can do a fix re-zipped completely as if SM2 had done it himself and attach it here (or send it to us via PM). Then we'll update his STEX entry so there's no extra hoops for peeps to jump thru.

Have been wrapped up with work and hunting down BATs for a new set of lots, but I'll do this as soon as things settle down and I have a spare moment.