The Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, 100 Years Ago

[Easy Bakes 253]

One of the major historical events of the last century.

 

 

http://www.history.com/news/the-assassination-of-archduke-franz-ferdinand-100-years-ago

[AkemiAzula 280]

It strikes me the war was unavoidable. When terrorists shoot presidents peace can hardly be expected. I suppose in a way ethnonationalism is to blame but really i cant see good and evil just sides unable to come to agreement. Id suggest a third power absorb and destroy the two sides. Maybe America shouldve annexed Europe.

[Fatherted 129]

Ew. America in Europe? Until a few years ago I considered the US a pretty bad place to live. Now I consider certain states exempt but the rule applies otherwise. I'll stick with a place without open-carry ARs right now.

On topic, you guys should watch the drama series 47 Days to War. Good explanation of all the issues.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

I believe the issues were the same as those for the French Revolution.  An out-of-touch aristocracy and boiling resentment.

 

The archduke would probably have survived if he hadn't been sewn into his uniform and they could have stopped the bleeding.  The war would have happened anyway.

[Odainsaker 2,133]

It's "37 Days" on BBC2.
 
The 1970s BBC soap operatic drama "Fall of Eagles" is older and much broader, featuring 13-episodes spanning from the 1848 Hungarian Revolution to the exile of the Kaiser Wilhelm II.  Bismarck portrayals are always loads of imperious fun, the Kaiser is laughably petulant as a spoilt child bombastically trying to run an industrialized empire, and we even get Patrick Stewart as Vladimir Lenin, proving for all time that Star Trek's enlightened United Federation of Planets was really a Marxist-Leninist state run amok.
 
Episode 10, "Indian Summer of an Emperor," focuses on the assassination as it disrupts plodding Emperor Franz Joseph's regimented daily schedule.  With the war hawks, chicken hawks, and peacocks out in full force, the Emperor's mistress and confidant, actress Katharina Schratt, is revealed as the sanest person in Europe.  Too bad for the doomed Austro-Hungarian Empire that the aging and tragic Emperor is portrayed here by the same actor who played Captain E. J. Smith of the Titanic in A Night to Remember.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE3PNp8-IMQ

[Fatherted 129]

Whoops, that's right. 37. To be fair it's been a while since I saw it.

[LexusInfernus 908]

I believe the issues were the same as those for the French Revolution.  An out-of-touch aristocracy and boiling resentment.

No they were not the same issues at all. The Serbs wanted to be their own separate nation while Austria wanted Serbia to be part of its own empire. The guy who killed the Archduke was a Serbian nationalist. 

 

Also, while there was still an aristocracy, their function and power had greatly changed and looked nothing like the French aristocracy during the French revolution. 

[NMUSpidey 3,956]

 

That is all.

[Easy Bakes 253]

 

That is all.

Love it

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

 

I believe the issues were the same as those for the French Revolution.  An out-of-touch aristocracy and boiling resentment.

No they were not the same issues at all. The Serbs wanted to be their own separate nation while Austria wanted Serbia to be part of its own empire. The guy who killed the Archduke was a Serbian nationalist. 

 

Also, while there was still an aristocracy, their function and power had greatly changed and looked nothing like the French aristocracy during the French revolution. 

 

And this is different, how? 

 

Most revolutions and wars start the same way with a single incident.  Gavril Princep was very lucky that day.  He thought he had missed his chance and the grand duke's carriage blundered right to him.

[LexusInfernus 908]

And this is different, how? 

 

Most revolutions and wars start the same way with a single incident.  Gavril Princep was very lucky that day.  He thought he had missed his chance and the grand duke's carriage blundered right to him.

 

One revolution was about a complete system change, about setting up a whole new order. 

 

The other one was about making Serbia its own independent country. Yeah vastly different. 

 

And no, revolutions do not start after a single incident just like a powder keg doesn't begin to explode before someone first filled it with gun powder, stuck a fuse to it and then lit that fuse. 

[AkemiAzula 280]

The barfight analogy could work for all wars. At least all started unintentionally.