SWAP, SimWings Airport Pack: Support/General Disussion Thread

[kaji 0]

yea just to a add a bit more to that, its done by creating a box, converting it into an ediable poly an then moving the editable polys vertecies to get the nice rounded shapes =). these creates the basic shape for the plane.... i have a basic tutorial from a website that im following, which i'll edit or post here later today when i get home from college. as for texturing i think its quite time consming also, as the detail of the plane has to be by textures. have a look at vester dk (sp) tram thread to see what i mean by texturing =/ .. one final thing: if you find any good tutorials post 'em here too please =)

good luck!

 

~kaji

[bmag_20 61]

try www.simviation.com
Theres some tutorials and they offer model downloads and stuff too so you may be able to use those somehow.

[jeanfred 0]

Special request!

First of all, many thanks for your awesome work, and thanks to swamper77 for his patch.

 

I've been working with all this stuff for a while and I think something's missing: There should be a variety of gates/planes instead of only 707's!  That would make our airports look a lot more realistic, plus, 707's aren't that popular anymore...

 

I want to see B747, B777, A340, as well as smaller models like A320, B737, ERJ, CRJ, MD8x...

 

So, what do you think? Am I asking too much?

 

Jeff

[pnorrell 4]

Uh... I don't know how I missed it, given the widespread problems people have evidently been having, but I didn't even know the pack had a bug.

I have built an airport taking up about 1/4 of a large city tile, with no crashes or other problems. I used the SWAP control tower, but not any of the SWAP terminals. I used the terminals from Joerg's/Thalassicus' packs that are included in the SWAP set.

 

Do I need to download the updated file and bulldoze all the terminal buildings and airport trams I have built since installing the original SWAP pack?

[Madhollander 0]

good question, me myself just experianced the first crash in the airport pack, and since there is no way of opening the city to delete the terminals i wonder if i have to start all over again ?

edit: ok, so the readme in the download says to delete: Swap Medium terminal -Swap Small terminal -Muzzy's ATCT -All Joerg Terminals including the Tram 2b.

i used none swap parts, but i don;t know what tower is Muzzy's and wich terminals are joerg's.

Can you post some pics of the affected files ?

[DJGspinNhitz 7]

Thanks for the fix, please keep adding to this we really need airport stuff.

I lost my captital city but I don't care I started the whole region over and made it better, people who get that upset got to chill out! Just a game and I beta test so I risk my work all the time. No big deal to me, I just rebuild it better!

GQ

[joeynymets 19]

Hi I got a question, will there be any problems in the game if I use this with Joerg's RH airport pack?

[Swamper77 90]

Date: 1/25/2006 6:46:16 AM Author: pnorrell Do I need to download the updated file and bulldoze all the terminal buildings and airport trams I have built since installing the original SWAP pack?

Pnorrell, you only need to bulldoze the SWAP components that you used and then install the updated files. I did not touch any of the other airport components because they are working correctly. The SWAP parts are:

- Muzz's Air Traffic Control Tower
- Small Terminal (has CAFE on the side of it)
- Medium Terminal
- Small Walkway
- Medium Hub

@Madhollander: You actually don't need to delete the terminals that Joerg created. These ones are working fine. The SWAP files had some items that were not modded correctly and have been fixed. Due to how the game saves its data, you have to bulldoze old versions of lots before installing new versions of them. I have posted a list of the SWAP components, just above. The picture of the affected components is the second picture that is displayed for the SWAP file on the STEX. Search for SWAP on the STEX, as it will return 1 result.

@Joey: I would recommend not to use Joerg's old airport pack. Thalassicu made an update to that pack which is part of the SWAP file on the STEX.

-Swamper77

[pnorrell 4]

Thanks for the clarification, Swamper77.

[yoder7652 21]

did anyone ever figure out a way to salvage old cities infected by the bug. I tried the exemplar idea presented earlier, but it didn't take.  Any suggestions or do I have to delete the old city and start over?

[xiziz 11]

Date: 1/26/2006 9:22:50 PM
Author: yoder7652
did anyone ever figure out a way to salvage old cities infected by the bug. I tried the exemplar idea presented earlier, but it didn't take. Any suggestions or do I have to delete the old city and start over?

quote>

I dont think there is any way to salvage the city, im affraid.

But take DJGspinNhitz's advice and rebuild it. i will surley come out better nevertheless since the way you build changes all the time.

DJGspinNhitz, love your spirit, its the same way as i take it

Cheers
//Sim

[neder 1]

I have tons of problems with the game crashing and going back to desktop. I have installed the update but it still crashes when I try to place a packaging lot, grass lots, tarmac lots and a few others.

What can I do to fix it?

[teddyb4492 1]

xiziz

Its been a little over 30 days since your last post on this thead - could you give us all an update on your great work (maybe a pic or 2).  i know how hard it is to find the time - im working like a dog myself, anyway, As I am sure u can guess, we are all looking forward to more of your great lots becoming avalable with great anticipation.  And, as before, my offer is always open to lend a hand.

 

thanks

teddyb

[kaji 0]

if im correct teddy, this is only the support thread for simwings. if you search for simwings in forum search you will find our development thread. there hasnt been much activity lately (mainly behind the scenes stuff i guess or rls) but im still churning out a pic or two come have a look if you want to

~kaji

[xiziz 11]

neder: Did you solve the problem yet?
Are you trying to load an airport that was built before the latest release(2.3)?

Though it seems you have a conflicting plugin, do you have any of the other(old) airport packs that are integrated into 2.3?

teddyb4492: Yeah, personally i havnt even had time to open gmax since i completed an aircraft around new year. Im having a serious stab of RLS, and i belive quite a few of the other members are to. Though Kajii is right, this should be in the development thread, theres a link in my sig.

Kaji: Thanks for jumping in. And its mostly RLS in my case, although i have a few pakkusena-related BAT's that i need to finish before i can do any airport stuff. and im having a hard time finding time and motivation to do even that. And those are just small things.

Cheers
//Sim

[teddyb4492 1]

Kaji  

Thanks - I guess i was having a Blond moment, i will be over to check it out right away.

 

Xiziz

 

Im not sure what RLS stands for but i guess its a blond monent for me again, and i would say that its just that you all are tired and needed a brake.  i really just want to let you know that we still support you, the team, and these great ideas.  anyway - thanks for the update.  and i will go to SimWings BAT Projects Thread to post unless it aplys to a problem with the pack.  thanks.

 

teddyb

[xiziz 11]

 

Teddy, no worries ^^

 

RLS = Real Life Syndrome, used quite avidly on forums when people dissapear and such.

 

Even though i visit ST(mainly from school nowadays) quite frequently i dont have the time to make a bat that will take me 15-30 hours to complete. not with all the things going on(RL) atm.

 

I never was very good at the BAT, i can make some basic stuff, what i really wanted with my part of this was to get peoples heads spinnning, for out great BAT-Artists to come forth and design some terminals, and quite frankly, i think ive sucseeded very well doing this ^^

 

Now we all just have to wait for them to be released

 

With me learning to: Play Guitar, Drive a car, Japanece, annd all the stuff for school

With me Playing to much multiplayer games

With me spending about 5 hours a day in freeking busses to get and from school(

[teddyb4492 1]

xiziz

as you said, no worries.  i am sorry you spend so much time on the bus.  i would hate to be with out my car.  but i uderstand RL, i have it bad too.  And don't sell yourself short.  you did a great job on the bats. i only wish i could do half of what you did.  one day, if i ever have time i guess.

 

thanks and have a good one.

teddyb

[SHADD0W09 2]

my runway texture is fliped 90 degeres domt know if any one else a hadthis problem 

[teddyb4492 1]

xiziz

i thought you might like to know that their is a new issue out there.  it dose not directly involve your airport pack but could involve all airport packs and like items.  to read more on it go to a thread by Ripptide - i think it is called BAT projects - ripptide - i added a link in this post.  if you read the last page you will see some posts by swamper77 - very intresting stuff and it seems your files might be needed for ripptides seaplane lot to work too. not sure why or if that is right. but intresting stuff. 
teddyb

BAT Projects - ripptide

[The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz 27]

Has anyone noticed where the showcase thread went?

[xiziz 11]

Teddy, i think i know what the problem is, there is one file, a controlerfile that there can be only one of, this is the one that makes the airports have capacity. hence as soon as someone releases a lot/bat that changes this file, without suppying a modified version of the file in SWAP, there will be a conflict. There is no way to change this, its up to the Author of the newer pack to provide support for SWAP. or atlest tell his audience that its uncopatible. And i read the thead, i to do belive that there is a maximum ammount of airport lots that can be active. Someone might want to test to place 16-18 terminals on a map and se what happens. And post the results here. Cheers //Sim

[hyped_up_boy 15]

xiziz, i have just downloaded the SWAP and the airport support file from the STEX.  but, i'm having a problem with crashing, more specifically, whenever i'm trying to place the Airport Hub or the Walkway.  right when i place down those lots, the game lags for a second and then crashes to the desktop.  i've noticed that the folder that was in the zipped file was only called SWAP 2.2, while the readme was for SWAP 2.3.  i'm not sure if this means anything.  luckily, i'm still able to access my city since i did not save with the new airport.

oh yeah, am i supposed to place the airport support files in the same place as all the other airport files?

i'll try running the simulator while placing the airport.

edit:  running the simulator has no effect, and i tried placing the airport support file in the same folder as the swap...  it is definitely the walkway and the hub.  this is really unfortunate, because i really want to create a super cool looking airport.

edit 2:  sorry about that.  discovered that i don't need the airport support file.  all is good now

[jaxom101 1]

Im not sure were to bring this up but this is what I found.

After redoing all my Plugins I installed the latest version of this and Swampers Support file. Everything seemed to work except the Cargo Terminal. The one with the Railrod attached. When I tried to place this I would crash back to the desk top. When I tried it without swampers File it worked.

Maybe I should bring this up with swamper but Im not sure were his support forum is.

[teddyb4492 1]

jaxom101 - i do not think swamper has a support forum, at least i have not seen it. i have not noticed any issue like this before, for me, for some reason as long as the support file loads before the SWAP pac i have no issues. you might try PM'ing swamper but i know he is very busy. in my plugins i have"xxx07 swamper support files" & "xxx08 SWAP" this set up works for me. not sure why as swamper says his file should be last. i really think that airports are the most complicated of any transport type to mod.

[jaxom101 1]

Originally posted by: teddyb4492 jaxom101 - i do not think swamper has a support forum, at least i have not seen it. i have not noticed any issue like this before, for me, for some reason as long as the support file loads before the SWAP pac i have no issues. you might try PM'ing swamper but i know he is very busy. in my plugins i have"xxx07 swamper support files" & "xxx08 SWAP" this set up works for me. not sure why as swamper says his file should be last. i really think that airports are the most complicated of any transport type to mod.quote>

 

That completly worked. I found several pieces that would crash me back to the desk top but after changing the direstory name of Swampers so it was at the top it worked.

Thanks again.

[teddyb4492 1]

jaxom101 - i am glad it helped - thats what we are here for - to work together to make this place better for everyone

swamper77 - might want to look at this issue - as custom pathing and modding are really not my cup of tea. but the set-up listed above works, not sure why.

xiziz - hope you are doing well, and you have some motivation back, it seems their are still an issue or two out their, hope to see you working on this again soon, let me know if you need some help.

[swesim 1]

Originally posted by: jeanfred

Special request!

First of all, many thanks for your awesome work, and thanks to swamper77 for his patch.

 

I've been working with all this stuff for a while and I think something's missing: There should be a variety of gates/planes instead of only 707's!  That would make our airports look a lot more realistic, plus, 707's aren't that popular anymore...

 

I want to see B747, B777, A340, as well as smaller models like A320, B737, ERJ, CRJ, MD8x...

 

So, what do you think? Am I asking too much?

 

Jeff

quote>

 

I suggest You have a look in the Japanese BAT threads.

There are several variants out there, however they all replace the ingame planes, no variation as such hencely.

I have succesfully downloaded A320, A330, A380 and tried the LH midjet, but doesn´t seem to work as it shows up as the ingame RJ anyway.

I read that someone had found the problem and corrected it for himself, I would very much appreciate if he/she could PM me about that.

There are also a couple of new versions of the ingame planes out there.

Does anybody know where I can find a working LH RJ, the one on STEX doesn´t seem to work.

[smelikatt 1]

Renaming folders to ensure Swamper's file loaded before the SWAP files cured all my crashes.  Thanks teddyb4492!  You sir deserve a three bunny salute.    

[tankmank 853]

For some reason i can't get my airport to work please help and when i hover the query button over the control tower it looks like it is maxed out ?