San Diego County (Re-settled)

[davidhogan 1]

North County Urbanization Area Continues Growth

 

 

Along the CA-56's western stub a small community has started to grow.  More small planned areas like this are expected to crop up throughout North County as residents attempt to escape the city life that so much of the metro areas have become.

 

Dave

[davidhogan 1]

San Diego County Page 3! 

 

The picture is a link to a full-size image of the region, have fun.   

 

Dave

[JEC 101]

that region is unbelievable.

btw, i think that beach in florida would be sebastian inlet and the one in la jolla is blacks. i've surfed there and it is quite good, but it wasn't in the winter where it has its greatest potential. it's also a nude beach at the public access route to the beach.

california waves are easy compared to florida waves. that's why some of the best professionals come from florida, but of course australians dominate the pro tour in numbers.

 

anyways, i'm looking forward to seeing you fill up that enormous region, good luck.

[davidhogan 1]

Black's is an amazing beach - there are ways to access it that don't require passing through the nude portion, but what fun is there in that? 

 

Thanks for the comments, it's always motivational to keep working on this project to know people are reading. 

 

I'm not sure if I want to keep working towards the South Bay, I-15, Clairemont, El Cajon, Escondido, Ramona, etc...  It's such a big map it's tough to decide.  I know I'll be adding a golf course to La Jolla, an airport at Miramar, and I'd like to work on Tierrasanta soon also - but I guess you'll have to wait and see!  Any suggestions, please feel free to post.

 

This would have been a new post, but this was recent enough:

 

 

CA-209 Construction Underway

 

 

These two ballparks were the last hangup in construction.  Local residents staged a protest that included chaining themselves to the backstop to prevent their destruction.  They forgot that chain link fence is easily cut with wire cutters, so their protest lasted all of 5 minutes after the police arrived.

 

To avoid irritating too many residents, the ballparks are now planned to be relocated.

 

 

(Historical background: CA-209 was the designation of Rosecrans St from the I-5/I-8 interchange to the tip of Point Loma past the sub bases in real life.  This designation was relinquished in 1999 (I think, I could be wrong).  There was supposedly discussion in the 1950's of making it a freeway, but it now stands mostly as a 4C/6C and 6E roadway, maintained by the city of San Diego.)

 

I had plenty of traffic problems between I-5 and the Pacific Ocean, and local residents were asking for any way to get downtown and the airport areas faster.  This route was planned as an avenue, but is being constructed as a freeway because the funding was available, and it will allow for the faster flow of traffic.  At this point, having learned from the San Francisco Embarcadero Freeway disaster, San Diego County is not planning on continuing the CA-209 freeway along the Pacific Coast, instead terminating it into Sunset Cliffs Blvd a few hundred yards from the Pacific Ocean.

 

Dave

[subedei 3]

Very nice region view. I am looking forward to more updates as this progresses.

 

 

Subedei

[Flying_Dutch_Man 0]

Date: 10/3/2004 3:17:34 AM
Author: subedei

Very nice region view. I am looking forward to more updates as this progresses.

Subedei

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Me too!!!

[Sabretooth78 808]

Wow so Tops has expanded all the way to San Diego!   You just need a Wegmans now! (I don't live within 200 miles of one , yet I just signed up for the Shopper's Club card!)

 

Nice CJ, can't wait to see more!

 

-Chris

[dudyconstructor 46]

WOW nice job! the freeway system looks very accurate! and nice map! the city is looking great! keep it up!

[davidhogan 1]

The City Keeps Growing

 

 

Just a quick screenshot of the first Cold Stone Creamery that grew up in San Diego.  (This is East Golden Hill, just a little south of CA-94 if you're in the neighborhood.) 

 

Edited to thank everyone for the comments, and mention that future freeway growth will be based on the 1950's freeway plans for San Diego.

 

Check out http://www.westcoastroads.com/california/sandiego.html  for more info on some of the deleted routes that I'll plan on building sometime soon.  The real CA-171 = I-308 in my San Diego, renumbered cause, well, i don't like 171. 

 

Dave

[utora 0]

Inspiring cj, especially the terrain. It looks huge! I like the suburban look of your city sofar, keep up!

[davidhogan 1]

The Little City On the Bay Keeps Growing

 

 

San Diego County announced its population broke 1.25 million residents last night.  With further expansion of the subway downtown roughly 20,000 new housing units have been constructed in the past 3 years.  (This shot is at the south end of CA-163, where it turns into 10th Ave.  The 9th Ave subway stations can be seen on the right.)

 

 

N Harbor Dr near I-5 looks little like the small shops that were located here just 100 years before.  San Diego County Community College Downtown still has it's same location, as seen here.

 

 

The end of First Ave at the Convention Center, near San Diego's City Hall (still one of my favourite BAT creations), and the historic Rancho San Diego Hotel.  Traffic is dense in downtown, but not congested except in the southwest corner on Market St and I-5.  The 163 is starting to congest north of the junction with I-308.

 

The new county road map is coming soon.

 

Dave

[davidhogan 1]

San Diego County Regional Road Network

 

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The roads and freeways, as of today.  CA-252 and CA-209 are new additions since the last post.  (The picture is a link to a bigger one, about 1 MB.)

 

Dave

[+Guest]

Awesome road network, David!
Wish you luck with this project

Oh, and I think it needs little bit more beautiful beaches

[davidhogan 1]

Barrio Logan/Northeast Coronado Breaks 100,000

 

 

Condos condos everywhere, and even a small beach.  Coronado keeps growing up, espescially since the growth of the industrial areas north of the North Island Airport.  (I'm now realizing I should post some pictures of that soon.)

 

 

The growth of a new residential tower on Coronado Ave/CA-282.  This was just one of several highrises constructed to house the 25,000 new residents.

 

 

The new DoubleTree Hotel has excellent access to one of the finest beaches in San Diego County, as well as a ferry to Downtown.  The tourists love it.

 

 

A farther out shot from the Northeast with the Coronado Bridge.

 

Dave

[dudyconstructor 46]

WOW...Looks nice! i think you should post some screenshots of the nightlife! looks great anyways keep the great work! nice efford!

[newy2 0]

wow amazing! great work i cant wait for more, it looks awesome!
Keep up the great work

[davidhogan 1]

 

I labelled some of the good stuff in this first night shot of downtown.  The North Bay Beaches were added, cause, well, I wanted beaches downtown.  (There's really no beaches anywhere near there, but whatever.  This is my San Diego.) 

 

The sports park and police station were mostly named in case you wanted to figure out my street naming convention.  (Hint: I-5 exits to 1st, 5th, and 10th Aves downtown, and G St = Broadway.)

 

 

Scripps High was named for Ellen Scripps, a real life philanthropist in San Diego County.  The real Scripps Aquiarium in La Jolla, as well as Scripps Ranch, are named for her family.

 

America's Finest Trauma Center comes from San Diego's humble city slogan: America's Finest City.  It's even on the police cars here.  (No joke.)

 

Dave

[Mexicanboy13r 12]

WOW now thats Nightlife! I would love to see Carlsbad.. I remember going down there for vacation! I went to Legoland!! It was Great!! very nice dude!

[newy2 0]

wow this is a great update! your downtown area looks great(especially at night)

keep up the great work

[TheJerseyDevil73 13]

The large scale developement is great. I am looking forward to hitting this stage myself. The attention to detail shows threw.

[davidhogan 1]

CA-52 Built from Convoy St to I-15

 

 

What does that sign say at the new interchange?  Airport?  Yes, that's right - the Miramar San Diego International Airport is nearing completion.  Flights are already moving in and out, but until the FedEx hub and surrounding industrial areas are complete it will only be running about about one-quarter capacity.

 

This is expected to reduce congestion at Lindbergh Field (near downtown) and the North Island Regional Airport located, of all places, on North Island.  The future regional plan includes a small commuter airport on the McLellan property south of the future CA-78 freeway serving North County, Gillespie Field once El Cajon is built out, Brown Field once the industrial parks planned near the border are completed, and Montgomery Field between I-805 and I-15.

 

 

Just north of the I-15/CA-163 merge is the Southeast Miramar Athletic Facilities at Langley High School.  These parks were built to help the residents forget they live in a predominantly industrial area.  Fortunately the good education system throughout the county has paid off, and led to almost entirely high tech developement.

 

 

The biotech and computer firms keeps forcing the dirtier businesses out of town, although some have survived mostly because of the low-income housing near the military facilities.

 

Dave

[davidhogan 1]

One Point Five Million!  (Oh yeah!)

 

 

San Diego County is proud to have reached another population milestone.  Much recent growth has been in the Miramar and Mira Mesa areas, shown above.  The new international airport and local tram services has also helped industrial growth through the area, along with the new CA-52 from just west of the airport to it's current end past I-15.  It's planned to be extended through Santee as growth begins there, and possibly out to El Cajon.

 

 

Miramar has a bit more housing than real life, but hey, the traffic simulation seems to require it to get decent commercial growth.  Central Miramar High and West Canyon High have a real rivalry - there's only plans to build an athletic center at one of them.  Neither school has been awarded the funding yet, but West Canyon is the current favourite.

 

 

A quick picture of the newly erected statue in tribute to Marlon Brando across Miramar Rd from San Diego County's first OfficeMax.

 

There'll be another update soon.

 

Dave

[subedei 3]

This is looking good so far. Keep the updates coming.

 

 

 

Subedei

[davidhogan 1]

How To Make San Diego Style Suburbs (and Stay Interested While Building a Metropolis)

 

 

In suburbia, two things are key: parks, and low-density.  Say it with me class, Low density housing is your friend.  This isn't the best example of athletic fields, since this is a more dense area, but most schools have a ball park, football field, soccer field, something.  Not all, but most.

 

 

The Simtropolis Exchange has a lot of great BAT creations.  Espescially those by SimGoober are great for adding a suburban feel.  (Not to slight anyone, but c'mon, he's the King of Suburban BAT.)  There's a ton of other great authors too, and you can really get a nice suburban feel with some Wegman's, In-N-Out's, McD's, WalMarts, plaza complexes, etc.

 

 

Sometimes a big onramp can encourage more Sims to use them.  I try to build Streets to Collector Roads to Avenues to Freeways as the general traffic pattern.  It's not always direct, but Sims will find the route if you use an improved pathfinding mod.  (It's really necessary, the default pathfinding is so bad.)  If you have no idea what a pathfinding mod is, do a search, they've been discussed plenty on ST.

 

 

Learn to use the NAM and it will add a lot more variety.  Those freeway ramps serve the industrial neighborhood to the south in two ways - it allows commuters to get to them from both directions, but spreads them out causing less congestion than if it was both directions exiting to just one road.

 

Again, Parks + Low Density + StEx = Suburbia.  It'll add a lot of variety, and make for a nice sattelite view also. 

 

 

Dead end streets happen in real life - make them happen in your SimCities also.  These houses are built in a valley, the park-covered hill wouldn't be suitable terrain for construction, so the streets just end into a 1x1 house.  I think it looks good.

 

 

Get the golf packs from the StEx, and use them to make an eightteen hole course.  It takes time, but it looks great in the end.  Normally I'd build paths to and from each hole, but that's a project I've left for later and just filled in with Open Green Spaces for now.

 

 

Sometimes you want some medium density in Suburbia.  Find an area with low traffic, low pollution, excess educational coverage, and no place to build out, and zone so it can build up.  Combined with Cobb's works on the StEx, you can get buildings like that in your cities. 

 

 

In commercial areas, do the opposite when you zone up.  Find areas that have traffic problems, and zone up. That or build a large job center that's ploppable like the Ritz Carlton above.  I don't normally plop much, but this just fit too well in the with the other hotels that had grown in the area.

 

 

Last, but not least, is zone big, big, big commercial areas.  4x4 and 6x6 should be common in suburban areas, but you'll need some BAT works to make them look good.

 

All 10 of these pictures are from Fashion Valley, a suburban neighborhood in midcity that I've worked for about 130 sim years before it has that much growth - and it's still only 60,000 people.

 

Dave

[andrew george 0]

Wow, it's really spreading out well and growing HUGE! What's the population now? I saw it hit 1.25 million - great work. Also, both your business centres and suburbs are excellent - a great all-round CJ!

 

Keep it up Mr Hogan - looking great!

 

A

[newy2 0]

wow great updates! Brillient job with your suburbs too, it gives me an idea

Your medium density suburbia looks awesome too, well done

Keep up the great work

[greedygreg 1]

excellent journal! This is one of the most accurate regions I've seen. I've been to SD a few times and this makes me want to go back sooo bad. Are you gonna build the Miramar Marine Base and Camp Pendleton?

 

 

[davidhogan 1]

if i can find a military airfield pack like Joerg's commercial airport pack, definitely i'll do camp pendleton.  MCAS miramar in my SD has been replaced by a commercial airport, but the industrial areas to the north are staying in place.  i've kept the stock SC4 Army base near I-15 as about the weakest tribute to our nation's military ever, but it was the best i could do. 

 

for those unfamiliar, the base relocation and closure programs will probably close the real MCAS miramar by 2030 and move all operations to Camp Pendleton, near Oceanside, to free up the MCAS miramar land for a new airport san diego despirately needs, as well as due to encroaching housing/businesses making the likelihood of a military accident over populated areas more and more likely.

 

and for a little background, MCAS (Marine Corps Air Station) Miramar used to be NAS (Naval Air Station) Miramar, which was where the real Top Gun school was.  In the 1990's the Navy moved out, and Marine helicopters as well as fixed wing operations moved in.

 

as for the naval sub base on point loma, i'm going to try to do something. 

 

dave

[subedei 3]

Looks good so far. I see alot of SG stuff in that last update. Keep up the good work.

 

 

 

Subedei

[ChicAgo333 2]

awesome journal!  you have a great talent city designing...i love all of that traffic i see cause i just love traffic

 

keep up the awesome work