Tram automa

[deadmanWNC 5]

Hi, after nearly 10 years of playing SC4, I have just built my first GLR in avenue !!

I downloaded a GLR in avenue station, installed it OK, if I query the station it says there is good usage, but if I query the avenue, i only see bus , pedestian and car volumes, no mention of GLR usage?

And i dont see any trams driving in game?

Is this correct, or have i missed some dependant or something?

Thanks as always

[CarrotCake07 3]

I assume you've got the GLR Track Puzzle Pieces. The Sims may not use the GLR if there is a faster way to get to their destination. Otherwise you may have misplaced a GLR Track piece.

Succes with building the city!

[nukeu123 307]

snoop around the stex and lex... i have a glr in avenue station that came with thats all you need

[deadmanWNC 5]

I think the sims are using the trams because the stations have usage numbers like 4356 used with a capacity of 6000

So do you guys see actual trams driving round like you see cars?

[nukeu123 307]

yes, if you have a complete system with resonable station location(s)

Sims will travel by GLR!... its the same thing as elevated rail... except on the ground... also, there is a puzzle piece that transit between the two....

EDIT: to prove my point, if you Finnish laying out your network, you can use the "Hide Paths" Cheat that comes with the extra cheats DLL, you will see how the automata functions

  Edited October 6, 2012 by nukeu123  

[Ganaram Inukshuk 906]

yes, if you have a complete system with resonable station location(s)

Sims will travel by GLR!... its the same thing as elevated rail... except on the ground... also, there is a puzzle piece that transit between the two....

EDIT: to prove my point, if you Finnish laying out your network, you can use the "Hide Paths" Cheat that comes with the extra cheats DLL, you will see how the automata functions

Some corrections:

GLR and ELR are effectively the same exact network, it's just that GLR is an override-based ground-level version of Elevated Rail (which really should be Elevated Light-rail, not Elevated Rail).

And it's the Drawpaths cheat; Hidepaths hides what Drawpaths does for you.

[jdenm8 362]

I think the sims are using the trams because the stations have usage numbers like 4356 used with a capacity of 6000

That number represents all traffic passing through the lot which the lot has been configured to accept (Cars, busses, even trucks under some circumstances), not just tram passengers. It's a limitation of the Transit Switch functionality.

  Edited October 6, 2012 by jdenm8  

[A Nonny Moose 8,263]

In the Graphic Options of the game make sure the first two settings are on high. This should give you the visual you want. Look closely at my signature picture. It is a shot (animated) from the game showing the GLR in full operation.

[deadmanWNC 5]

Hi I have checked the settings they are all on high...

I can UDI an Elevated train, round my tram in avenue no problem.

I used SHMailsGLRAvenueStation1b, drop it in place, connected plain tram in avenue pieces next to it, drew one way roads and cars and buses where quite happy drive round the system.

But no trams.

So then I downloaded joshua43214 fix for the glrinavenue station, bulldozed the old tram station, plopped the station as before, connected the tram in avenue, drew the one way roads, but now nothing will flow through the station, cars dissapear when they get to the station ,UDI stops when i drive upto the station, so I'm guessing, something is wrong.

I'm going to remove the "fix" and try again in a new city.

What stations does everybody else use?

What else can I try?

(I'm using LHD, the NAM is LHD, cars & bus both use LHD)

[A Nonny Moose 8,263]

Some stations need to be activated by having EL tracks dragged through them. Try it.

[deadmanWNC 5]

Thanks, that didn't work, "Unsuitable area to build network" error.

What station in avenue do you use?

[Ganaram Inukshuk 906]

Some stations need to be activated by having EL tracks dragged through them. Try it.

Thanks, that didn't work, "Unsuitable area to build network" error.

For the Tram-in-AVE stations, it's One-Way Road, not El Rail.

For the record, the reason why it's OWR and not ELR is because if it were ELR, you would crash if you tried to extend your GLR-in-AVE network. You know how you "hover" a puzzle piece over certain TE-lots, the game crashes, right? That only happens if the "materials" that make up the puzzle piece match the network that goes through that specific TE-lot.

The GLR-in-AVE pieces are made from El Rail and Avenue overlapping each other, so a tram station TE'd for ELR or AVE to go through it is a no-go, hence why it's OWR, not ELR.

  Edited October 9, 2012 by Ganaram Inukshuk  

[deadmanWNC 5]

I have dragged OWR and the paths look correct. I can UDI round the circuit just no sims use it!!!

[A Nonny Moose 8,263]

Currently, I don't use GLR very often since most of my towns don't have the need even for subways. I am using mostly surface rail (heavy) these days. As for stations, the one I have is had did require one to pass the el tracks through it. Seems to be no longer in my plugins, and was probably obsolete. I haven't needed one, so I didn't get a new one when I revised my plugins.

[Fatherted 129]

The station will also note all the cars/buses going through.

I think the sims are using the trams because the stations have usage numbers like 4356 used with a capacity of 6000

So do you guys see actual trams driving round like you see cars?

[A Nonny Moose 8,263]

The station will also note all the cars/buses going through.

I think the sims are using the trams because the stations have usage numbers like 4356 used with a capacity of 6000

So do you guys see actual trams driving round like you see cars?

Look at my signature. It is a snap of tram in the game (animated GIF).