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RCI Demand and Menus Broken

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I've played SC4 Deluxe for years without a a problem, and suddenly everything goes wrong. I've had NAM installed for ages, no other mods. I've never used cheats either. Few days ago I briefly installed and removed Colossus Addon Mod (core files only) without running the game inbetween and installed modding utilies, ILives Reader and SC4 Startup Manager. Since then, the game has been broken.

This pic tells pretty much all. Witness:

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Almost all menu items are duplicated, even those in God Mode. Only ploppable buildings (Civics and Landmark) aren't.

Demand no longer seems to work properly either. In all new cities connected to a neighbor demand looks like this and no longer reflects neighbors' demand and supply. Demand seems fixed, though, and my largest cities start with maximum negative demand, which leads to mass-abandonment of very old and stable cities whose neighbors haven't been touched.  Medium cities get huge rush of R$$$, CS$$$ and CO$$$ development that caps at about 100k and is so sudden R$$$ houses start getting 'no job' -zots en masse after being built. And this has occurred in every city in every region since the glitch occurred. Effectively, all cities are ruined as normal development is no longer possible.

The biggest problem is that completely cleaning Plugins folder and uninstalling-reinstalling game doesn't remove the problem. I've tried two times and I can't see there would be anything left from old install to keep this problem. .exe and .dat files are in their original, freshly installed condition. Modding tools have been also uninstalled but the glitch stays. Current install is completely clean with empty Plugins folder and the glitch still persists.

I'm using Win Vista 32.

Any ideas what might be causing this and how it could be fixed?

Edit: Smaller img, sp.

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    A small update. Average commute times graph has also gone insane, highest readings are at 10000 - but only in some cities, most show normal commute times. Extreme commute time doesn't have any impact on R$$$ flood, though. Also, demand caps at slightly lower value than I previously thought, and cities with total R population of over 100k start showing negative demand. Region data isn't to blame as the glitch occurs in restored backup regions.

    I've searched Simtropolis and SC4Devotion forums, but I've found absolutely nothing like my problem. If you know a related thread, please provide a link, or even make wild guess what might have gone wrong, I'm dumbfounded. I'll provide more pics if asked.

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    What happens if you open the game with an empty plugin folder?


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    No change. Glitch is there, everything else works. Plugins folder has been empty since first reinstall.

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    Hey, I also have something like that, but then with some demands randomly at maximum or minimum. But I never installed the CAM....

    I did install ilive reader recently though...


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    Duplicates like that are caused by SC4 when there are more than one copy of certain "Installed files" such as Simcity_1.dat. I expect that you have either installed improperly or removed and then restored files or backed them up and recopied them etc. Check all your SC4 locations for dup's (both install and My Doc's locations)

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    wiecher:

    That's very interesting. I considered that ILives Reader might affect the game and tried to dodge it by reinstalling to different drive, to no avail. I've also removed ILives and other modding tools, no cure. Could they have broken something in registry?

    Edit: Scratch that, problem was elsewhere.

    SC4BOY:

    You were right, I DID backup my Simcity_1.dat in SC4 folder. I feel stupid failing to mention that 46.gif. Removed that and menu duplicates and demand glitch are gone.

    Commute time issue was unrelated, caused by playing NAM cities without the mod installed.

    Thank you so much! 44.gif

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