Demand Caps

[guitargeek-1876 0]

Hi. My city has just reached a population of about 360,000. I am not getting any more residential development. I have exhausted all other demand types so I know lack of jobs is NOT a culprit. I think I have hit a demand cap. Please tell me how to raise it. I have two landmarks and plenty of parks of all types. I dont know what the problem is.

[Cob92 360]

Build an airport to raise commercial demand. Build rewards to get past demand caps.

[guitargeek-1876 0]

I already have the largest airport available and I have built just about all of the rewards with exeption of the major art museum, main library, and opera house.

[Yuu Caa Sim 55]

Do all residential development types (R$, R$$, R$$$) have zero or negative demand, or just some? What about commercial and industrial? Do all of those sub types have no demand?

A picture of your expanded demand graph and your population type graph would be useful in troubleshooting (they're both under the graphs view). Select them, and then take a screenshot either by using the [prnt scrn] button and then pasting into paint, or pressing [ctrl] + [shift] + , which takes the screen shot and then puts it into your city's screenshot album.

If you have other cities in the region, you can try loading them, letting the simulation run for several sim-years, and then seeing if it helps.

You can try lowering taxes, enacting demand increasing ordinances (can't remember which ones, sorry), or building more demand caps (parks, rewards, and neighbor connections by highway and rail, I don't think most landmarks relieve cap limits).

[thiosk 0]

I can't stress enough the neighbor city comment:

I have a residential burb, a commercial district, and a hardcore industrial map connected by elevated highway and monorail. There are a couple hightech jobs available in the residential area, but those will be torn down to make way for new residential buildings. The folks in my cities are thrilled to live there, because there is practically no pollution sources-- i import power from the industrial and commercial districts anyway.

In any case, maybe you need more nearby cities.

Also, I was getting stagnated too-- so I used the industry doubler (not quadrupler!). I was perplexed that a sprawling industrial center covering an entire medium size map was only giving me 40,000 jobs, and residential development was stagnated as a result. Now im cookin with gas.

[guitargeek-1876 0]

I'm very sorry. I don't know how to post screen shots, but I can tell you the condition of the demand. All demand types are negative exept for the commercial service demand. Low wealth commercial service demand is relatively low, medium wealth comercial service demand is almost the highest possible, and high wealth commercial service demand is just above the the zero mark. I already have three commuter cities. This "crisis" happened after playing one of them. I already have plenty of parks, but I'll try placing more anyways. About the taxes, I already have them placed at the dafault 9%, I haven't raised them at all. Anyways in the mean time, I'll try to figure out how to post pictures and I'll try what you told me.

[Faded Glory 13]

Depending on how much money you are making vs. how much you are losing, lowering the taxes even more might help. I typically use taxes in the 7.0%-ish range to stimulate commercial activity in otherwise stagnent cities.

[guitargeek-1876 0]

Just an up date. I'm still trying to figure how to put my images in jpeg fomat for posting. I'll check the omnibus.

[thiosk 0]

It may not be totally relavent, but perhaps if you went a couple region spaces over and started a fresh, isolated city with fresh demand, then connected it up to your main network everything would just start to flow again?

Just taking a shot in the dark here, i really just started simming for the first time since sc2k last weekO.o

[guitargeek-1876 0]

Hey, I finally managed to switch my pictures to jpeg formatting. Here are a couple city graphs.

That is demand.

This is jobs and population.

I hope this helps with diagnosing my problem.

[Yuu Caa Sim 55]

As Faded Glory stated, you could try lowering taxes even more, although given how much money you have, it's best not to go too overboard.

Each residential building demands a certain specific percentage of jobs, depending on its wealth level and the education level. If a job is not found, then that creates demand for that job. If there are jobs, they are filled, and demand goes down.

Each commercial or industrial building also demands a specific percentage of residents as well, depending on its subtype. This is what creates residential demand.

Looking at your population graph, it seems that you have the most of R$$. I can't really see where R$ and R$$$ are though. From what I have heard from other people, it is best to have the most of R$, then R$$, and only a few R$$$ (since they are demanded in lesser numbers across the board). I also can't find the job types that demand the most R$ (I-D, I-M, and C$). You could well have an imbalance of residents.

With CS$ demand like that, you could try to zone for that. You shouldn't have a problem with the CS$ "upgrading" to a higher wealth, but if you want to make sure, check the desirability data map for all Commercial development types and zone in areas that are green only for CS$. You may have to make a new city or build undesirable buildings for this. CS$ creates demand for R$ some of R$$, and maybe a little R$$$. The new R$ will come in looking for homes, and along with them they will bring some demand for all the different types of zone (this is dependent on their education level; I believe C$ demands less educated R$). This could help bring up demand for the other developer types.

This is just one way to proceed. There are likely other ways as well. I hope this is helpful for you.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

Super Demand Mod could help. Lower taxes as they could be scaring off people and try building low wealth commercial service.

[guitargeek-1876 0]

Hey guys, thanks for the help. Lowering the taxes worked like a charm.

[Cob92 360]

What were your tax percentages exactly? I find anything over 10% kills the economy.

[guitargeek-1876 0]

I originally had the tax rates at the default 9%, but I lowered them to  7%.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

My taxes are default 7%. I generally leave them there unless I need money, or more development.

When you need both, you're screwed.