Desktop.. Everyone has one of these!

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: Yoshiisland

Happy now?

quote>

In the words of Duke Nukem:

"Ahhhh... much better!"

[Deever 23]

I usually have TV / game-related wallpapers but today I'll make an exception.

[your_adress_here 11]

Let's see how this works...

Well, I can't be bothered to figure out how to make a fancy thumbnail, so a simple link will have to suffice.

http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopsavedinpaintjustbj7.png

And yes, I have two screens...

[smstevenms 7]

When I save my images as jpeg using MS, I don't notice any loss in quality.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: smstevenms When I save my images as jpeg using MS, I don't notice any loss in quality.quote>

Saved as PNG in MS Paint:

Saved as JPEG in MS Paint:

Saved as JPEG in GIMP at 100% quality:

If you can't notice a difference in any of those images, you may want to get your eyes checked.

[Haljackey 17,398]

Heres another "battlestar" desktop of mine (one near the top of this page):

Click here for the NATIVE, or FULL RESOLUTION!  (1440x900)

Any problems with this image, Duke87?

-BTW, your second image looks a little blurry to me.  Is that the one that I should notice?

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: haljackey Any problems with this image, Duke87?quote>

Well, it's pretty good. Not perfect, but so far as jpegs go for things other than actual pictures, that's about as good as it gets. Png would render it perfectly, but might also make the filesize too large to upload to most of those free services.

-BTW, your second image looks a little blurry to me.  Is that the one that I should notice?quote>

Yes!

See, the second one is the jpeg with MS Paint one. Jpeg with MS Paint is specifically what I said is verboten. Now, if you look closely at the third image (the jpeg with GIMP one), it too has flaws- this is most noticeable with the icons, particularly the Kye one. Still, it's a world better than the MS Paint jpeg. The first image, though - the png - is flawless. Everything in it looks precisely as it did on my screen when I took the screenshot. And that's why it's my preferred format. I generally only go for jpeg if the filesize of the png is too large (a 1280x768 png will exceed ImageShack's max 1500000 bytes sometimes, depending on how busy the image is.) or if for whatever reason the purpose I'm looking to use the image for does not permit it to be png (Simtropolis Avatars, I'm looking at you.)

[GingerBlokey 30]

Because I like simplicity. And I hate Windows.

[smstevenms 7]

Duke87, I never save in png, I almost always save to jpeg. Sometimes bitmap, but as far as png goes, some of the stuff that I have that was already png, the quality seems great. My eyes are fine lol, I can see the pixelation in png. I've only done a comparison with bitmap to jpeg with similar results.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: smstevenms Duke87, I never save in png, I almost always save to jpeg. Sometimes bitmap, but as far as png goes, some of the stuff that I have that was already png, the quality seems great. My eyes are fine lol, I can see the pixelation in png. I've only done a comparison with bitmap to jpeg with similar results.quote>

There is absolutely no reason to save anything in bitmap unless what you intend to use it for specifically requires that format (like custom maps for SC4). Png nets you the same full quality but with a fraction of the filesize. I remember a while back I combed through all of my pictures and converted all the bitmaps to pngs- I cut over a gigabyte of data, and without actually losing anything.

As for almost always saving to jpeg, why? You're dithering your images unnecessarily. As you said, you "can see the pixelation in png". It's crisp and clear. Why settle for less?

[smstevenms 7]

Yes this is true about bitmap, but I only do this when playing around with photoshop. But just to make a point I went through the effort to show you jpeg has great quality and the file size is SMALLER not larger

There is almost no difference between the jpeg & png image.

[doorknob60 11]

I can actually notice a slight difference between the PNG and the JPEG, but only when I look closely. Also you guys are going off topic

EDIT: Well I guess this is the off topic board And yay this is my 50th post

[smstevenms 7]

You must have amazing eyes.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: smstevenms You must have amazing eyes.quote>

Nope, I notice it too. I think you just have less than amazing eyes. Maybe you really should get them checked.

On the other hand, the pace where it's really noticeable is with the text under the actual picture. Actual pictures (or photoshoppings thereof, as is the case here) are what jpeg was designed for, so it handles them quite well so long as you save at 100% quality. Anything other than an actual picture, though (like, say.... a desktop screenshot ) is not what jpeg was designed for and thusly, even at 100% quality it can run the gauntlet from color bleeding crap to mostly decent but still imperfect.

[beebs 129]

Is such a subtle difference in quality worth the extra space for a picture posted on an internet forum? If this were something submitted for work or for class, I'd say go all out with whatever format.. but jeepers.. I didn't realize pictures of our desktops had to be of the highest quality, with absolutely zero dithering.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: beebs Is such a subtle difference in quality worth the extra space for a picture posted on an internet forum? quote>

Yes.

[your_adress_here 11]

New desktop.

[smstevenms 7]

Originally posted by: Duke87

Originally posted by: smstevenms You must have amazing eyes.quote>

Nope, I notice it too. I think you just have less than amazing eyes. Maybe you really should get them checked.

On the other hand, the pace where it's really noticeable is with the text under the actual picture. Actual pictures (or photoshoppings thereof, as is the case here) are what jpeg was designed for, so it handles them quite well so long as you save at 100% quality. Anything other than an actual picture, though (like, say.... a desktop screenshot ) is not what jpeg was designed for and thusly, even at 100% quality it can run the gauntlet from color bleeding crap to mostly decent but still imperfect.quote>

 

My eyes are fine. That creation I uploaded was made using MS paint, and when I copy my desktop I use MS paint. It's faster, and the file size is low. You look back at some of my uploads, all jpegs. There is such a minimal difference that if it weren't being pointed out and talked about it wouldn't be noticed. With this said why use png when jpeg is of a smaller size.

Detect the format: Which is which? Click here-->

The only way you can see the difference between a png & jpeg is either by zooming  or by viewing an oversized image (same difference). Anyway I've lost track of where this was going or what point is trying to be made here.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: your_adress_here

New desktop.quote>

Athough:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6017/boreddesktopxd2.png

Saved it in bitmap, did you?

[smstevenms 7]

Here my latest latest, I was planing on changing that wallpaper before I upload that last one
This is my dream car.

 

Edited image for size

--beebs

[your_adress_here 11]

Actually Duke, I saved the picture I used for my background as a bitmap! It seems I accidentally saved the screenshot itself as a png.

Smsstevensms: A very nice car that is!

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: your_adress_here Actually Duke, I saved the picture I used for my background as a bitmap! It seems I accidentally saved the screenshot itself as a png.quote>

How does one accidentally save something as a png? I don't know of any programs where it's the default.... (MS Paint defaults to bitmap, GIMP to absolutely nothing)

Originally posted by: smstevenms Here my latest latest, I was planing on changing that wallpaper before I upload that last onequote>

Hey, png! You get a cookie.

[your_adress_here 11]

I probably accidentally saved to png when I wanted to save it as a bitmap.

[simsider 4]

https://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc84/simsider/?action=view&current=untitled-1.jpg My Desk top

[scififan68 23]

I got a new desktop

btw.. this is xp

                                                                                                       Click for full size

[Godzillaman 21]

BOO Cheap boring space! Toronto with fog at sunset pwns it!X(

[your_adress_here 11]

That Toronto pic is very nice indeed, but so is the aurora borealis.

[smstevenms 7]

your_adress_here, thanks. One of these days, but it seems by the time I have enough $$, it look as nice as this one or the newest one, and will I want something so old. Man I dislike being poor.

[TV-VCR 15]

And here's the kicker:

[doorknob60 11]

Click for full size image. Not much different except I finally got a monitor that can go higher than 1024x768

tv-vcr: Nice way to show off your comp's stats

Rofl and it doesn't say the video card it's Nvidia Geforce FX 5200

Yeah it's crap but just felt like it, bet it goes faster than tv-vcr's vista