Twins with different daddies

[Duke87 1,070]

Really.

What are the odds?

[_Atticus 10]

They look identical, but I guess all babies look the same. It'll be tough for the mother to explain, and tough for the babies.

-Pingangster

[Easy Bakes 253]

Originally posted by: Duke87

Really.

What are the odds?

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Depends on how the umm "conception" occured.

[LivingInThePast 364]

Originally posted by: Easy Bakes

Originally posted by: Duke87

Really.

What are the odds?

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Depends on how the umm "conception" occured.

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I'm going to say it involved frozen sperm and men in white lab coats. But that's my guess. The other possibility is...kind of obscene.

[sneakeypete 16]

Nothing overly strange going on here. Its exactly the same mechanism as how non identical twins are formed.

Identical twins and a third non identical sibling born at once (to the same farther) would be more interesting (happened to some people i went to school with, but one of the identical children died soon after birth)

[Jezus53 18]

Originally posted by: Duke87

What are the odds?

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Aren't you supposed to be the one that tells us that? Probably very slim if you exclude using artificial insemination, like this story.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Duke87

Really.

What are the odds?

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According to this, it happens more often than we think.

[ShortStraw 1]

The babies pictured in the article are not the twins in question.  They're models, eye candy, added for visual effect.

What would be really cool would be if this was the first incarnation of an evoloutionary transition. . . what if the mechanisms of natural selection (or God, depending on your particular belief system) determined that this would be a positive mutation, useful for propogating our species.   What if, a few generations from now, women could, er, incubate offspring from multiple partners if she chose to do so?  I imagine a world where the women have multiple husbands (Bigamy, only opposite of the way we usually see bigamy today), when she wishes to have children she is "fertilized" by each of her husbands and gives birth to a litter of offspring, each carrying seperate paternal genetic material, technically making them twin half-brothers.  Rich and powerful women might have harems composed of men exhibiting optimal genetic traits. . . (I'm a guy, that thought just stopped my train of thought dead in its tracks, heh)

Up until now only a male could spread his genetic material into the next generation through multiple mates simultaneously, making the spread of male genetic traits more prolific than those of the fairer sex.  With this mutation, it's possible that someday our species could lean more towards a matriarchal societal structure since women could now produce multiple offspring from different mates simultaneously. 

Currently there is an imbalance in the fecundity of the male and female human.  Wouldn't it be interesting if this were an attempt by "Nature", "natural selection" or even (gasp) "God" to correct that imbalance?  It would be fascinating to see how such a development would effect our societal structure in future generations.  Would it allow for the female to more easily attain dominance in relationships and ultimately result in a more feminine or matriarchal society?  As opposed to the generally male dominated patriarchal societies of today and yesteryear. . .

Wow, it's awful lonely out here on this limb

edit:

Just read SkiGeeks link.  So women already can choose to have multiple offspring from different mates at the same time.  So this would happen much more often if, say, women were as promiscuous as men, at least during their menstral cycle.  Well, my mind is sufficiently boggled.  Think I'll go lay down for a bit.

[Jezus53 18]

I don't think I would want women to be having "litters" of kids. In my opinion, we have way too many people on this planet as is and I think increasing the birth rate would bring the degradation of Earth to an even faster pace.

[sneakeypete 16]

Originally posted by: ShortStraw

Just read SkiGeeks link.  So women already can choose to have multiple offspring from different mates at the same time.  So this would happen much more often if, say, women were as promiscuous as men, at least during their menstral cycle.  Well, my mind is sufficiently boggled.  Think I'll go lay down for a bit.

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There is no choice about it what so ever. Women don't choose to have two eggs be released at once. It just happens. Sometimes it happens when they have sex multiple times close together and you get unidentical twins. Sometimes it happens when they have sex with two different people in a short space of time and this happens.

[Sam 163]

Originally posted by: Jezus53

I don't think I would want women to be having "litters" of kids.

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I doubt women will be too keen either.

[Patricius Maximus 236]

They look identical, but I guess all babies look the same. It'll be tough for the mother to explain, and tough for the babies.

-Pingangsterquote>

Not all babies look identical.

[ShortStraw 1]

A few hours of much needed sleep have cleared my head a bit. So what would need to happen to fulfill my vision of a matriarchal future is that women would have to develop the tendency to produce multiple eggs. For it to happen naturally anyway. Between this story and "Octomom" it looks like it's technically possible to artificially balance the fecundity in men and women already.

Now the only question left is why exactly this story triggered any interest at all in my exhausted brain, heh.

[fukuda 351]

There's no mutation involved in this, Oocytes can sometimes appear twice at the same time, like in the case of non-identical twins

[Sam 163]

Originally posted by: fukuda

...Oocytes can sometimes appear twice at the same time,...quote>

Quantum superposition?

I know what you are trying to say, but it just looked a bit funny put like that

[fukuda 351]

Quantum superposition?quote>

More like Graaf's superposition, actually

yes, I have to admit that it looks a bit funny

[Jezus53 18]

Originally posted by: sam

Originally posted by: Jezus53

I don't think I would want women to be having "litters" of kids.

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I doubt women will be too keen either.

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I was thinking today as well. They go through enough pain giving birth to one kid let alone multiple kids. Although, I would assume the amount of pain (if put into a number or something) would be less intense having three kids at once rather than spread out over three differnent times. Of course, tell that to a women having mutliple kids and she will break your head off. But I do understand the challenges behind carrying two or more kids excluding actual birth (back problems, etc).

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Jezus53

I was thinking today as well. They go through enough pain giving birth to one kid let alone multiple kids. Although, I would assume the amount of pain (if put into a number or something) would be less intense having three kids at once rather than spread out over three differnent times. Of course, tell that to a women having mutliple kids and she will break your head off. But I do understand the challenges behind carrying two or more kids excluding actual birth (back problems, etc).

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Multiple births are also more risky for the babies.  Carrying to full term is much less likely with multiples.  and premature babies can have all sorts of problems.  Modern medicine can deal with prematurity more effectively than when I was a kid.  but it's still medically risky.

[hamsterTK 93]

weird, I didn't know this was possible

didn't people used to believe that a pregnant woman's baby would have the features of all the different guys she did it with? Ridiculous, then of course this story comes out...

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: hamsterTK

didn't people used to believe that a pregnant woman's baby would have the features of all the different guys she did it with? Ridiculous, then of course this story comes out...quote>

People also used to believe that nonstandard sexual positions would produce deformed babies. And that a baby was born on the same day of the week it was conceived, so if you were born on Sunday, some might consider you an illegitimate child.

Point being, people used to believe a lot of stupid things.

...actually, what am I saying. People still believe a lot of stupid things.

Example: "A woman can't get pregnant if it's her first time"

Really, guys? Really?

[Jezus53 18]

Originally posted by: Duke87

Example: "A woman can't get pregnant if it's her first time"

Really, guys? Really?

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Or if you're in a pool she can't get pregnant. And you can't forget, if you're standing up then it'll be a boy. Oh the rumors go on and on and on.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: Jezus53

Oh the rumors go on and on and on.

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Such as

Tyler told the Mail he did not use a condom because "Chantelle told me she would take the morning-after pill. I thought she would take care of it."  quote>

http://news.aol.com/article/teenage-dad-regrets-worst-mistake/492682

[mightygoose 92]

as an interesting note, when looking at splinter colonies and minimum human population required to prevent inbreeding.... techniques to increase the chances of this happening could be used to minimise the percentage inbreeding at each subsequent generation, by allowing for a greater number of genetically distinct offspring per birthing cycle... from one to two, or maybe even three, per female pregnancy. interesting...some further investigation is required....

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: SkiGeek

Such as

Tyler told the Mail he did not use a condom because "Chantelle told me she would take the morning-after pill. I thought she would take care of it."  quote>

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This pretty much epitomizes something I see all the time: when a girl is interested in a guy, she'll lie through her teeth to him to tell him what he wants to hear. And it's so glaringly obvious when it's happening, but guys through some combination of hormones and stupidity tend to either be oblivious to it or don't care.

And when I call girls out on it, everyone thinks I'm a bleep. Because, you know, the "proper" thing to do would be to just ignore the fact that they're BSing and go with it.

I'm supposed to not care that I'm being fed boving fecal matter because the source is sexy and I'm supposed to not be able to say no to that. Well, I do care, and I can say no to it. Excuse me for thinking with my brain instead of my testicles, and excuse me for having dignity.

The really insane part is that people do this all the time and then find it perplexing that I don't trust them. Yeah, well, deny it all you want, but it's obvious you were telling me lies like crazy. And "harmless" or not, a lie is a lie and it makes a source untrustworthy.

...the point being, to someone who's actually thinking, "oh, I'll just take the morning after pill" should be immediately recognizeable as "quit worrying about getting me pregnant and just sleep with me already!" She obviously never intended to do any such thing, she just said it to quell his (legitimate) concern: telling him what he wants to hear.

Falling prey to this sort of thing is how "oops"es happen. People often aren't self-aware enough to recognize it until after the fact.

[mightygoose 92]

in my experience.... don't even bother asking, just use a condom regardless.... unless you are actually trying to conceive the diminished sensitivity that many claim is negligable and the morning after pill won't do jack all to syphillis....

[Barbarossa 51]

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  Edited September 8, 2012 by Barbarossa  

[Jezus53 18]

Originally posted by: Barbarossa

Interesting.  Replace girl with guy, etc, and you will see something far more common in inter-gender relations.  As a man, I can easily say we will "lie through our teeth" to get a girl in bed, if so inclined.

While I don't doubt your observance, I have never met a woman like you describe.  Perhaps it is because I am not attracted to skanks?

Barbarossa

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Skanks are not the only type of girls that do that. It happens a lot in high school. It's just that women do it more subtly and no one really believes that a woman would trick a man into bed. But it does happen.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: Jezus53

Originally posted by: Barbarossa

While I don't doubt your observance, I have never met a woman like you describe.  Perhaps it is because I am not attracted to skanks?quote>

Skanks are not the only type of girls that do that. It happens a lot in high school. It's just that women do it more subtly and no one really believes that a woman would trick a man into bed. But it does happen.quote>

It's not necessarily going so far as "tricking a man into bed". Often it's little more than just flirting.

You're right about one thing, though: the girls I see this from are girls that other guys in the dorm show up with before or after trips to the bar. Skanks, in other words.

Of course, this means that alcohol is usually involved. I'm not entirely sure what those girls would be like when they're sober. And, girls who weren't picked up at the bar tend not to behave in this fashion. Usually.

I also get the impression that it's a sort of "young and wild" thing that women generally grow out of as they get older.