Solving the World's Problems

[JanYpe 17]

Welcome to Simtropolis.

Originally posted by: Danlikebooks The world is in deep trouble.  Many of these problems are caused by 1st world countries (namely America).

Here are my ideas.

First, America must pull out of Iraq (Why are the politicians arguing about this, just get the hell out of there before it becomes another Vietnam-or is it to already too late?)quote>

This doesn't strike you as a self serving policy, especially when held up against that stronger UN and  unified world you propose?

 

and "President" Bush must step down or be assassinated (whichever comes first, personally I hope for the latter). quote>

You have all these lofty goals of eliminating weapons and all, but murdering a lawfully elected leader is a-okay?

 

All of the 1st world countries must distribute it's money and resources among all 3rd world countries, therefore becoming 2nd world countries.quote>

Th..that's not how economics work.

(now Cheney can't "accidently" kill his friends anymore)quote>

It actually was an accident, and that guy he shot didn't die.

[Micah 16]

It would be nice to solve the world's problems with only a paragraph, but unfortunately the world is too complex for its problems to be solved. However, I suppose I could think of one thing that could solve it all: If you eliminate human nature, then you eliminate the world's problems.

Btw, the assassination of a person will not solve anything. It actually makes matters worse and to think of killing someone is disturbing and disgusting.

I can see this thread quickly falling apart... so keep it civil or you will be banned for 3 days. Take it or leave it.

[autoVino 26]

Welcome to Simtrop!

Anyway, I strongly disagree with some of your points.  First off, how is the world in big trouble, I mean I know there are lots of bad things going in, but it couldn't be as bad as ww1 or ww2, can it? 

America does cause a lot of problems, but wouldn't any country that had as much power an money?  It's human trait to want to have money and power, this cannot be easily changed.

Pulling out of Iraq is out of the question, it is way too late for that.  If we do pull out of Iraq it may as well be the end of it.  It already is another Vietnam.

America isn't going to give third world countries money.  It might help a bit, but it won't give away free money.  There's nothing free in life. 

I'm no Bush fan, but assassinating a man?  I mean, he has good intentions, he just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Killing a man shouldn't even be though of, it's completely immoral.

The UN isn't perfect, but destroying it and rebuilding another one won't necessarily change anything.  More than likely it will become like it is now.  Once again it is an unfixable human trait for money and power.

Banning all weapons can't be done.  There will always be a "slip up" that will allow weapons to be traded, for money, etc.  This again is part of Human nature... hard to change.

Authorities aren't perfect, either.  Some have strong moral values, but authorities are still men (and women) and are still humans.  They have their share of bad qualities, greed, etc.

No one is perfect, and inorder to solve all these problems it will requiere perfection.  

I'm not saying that fixing all this is bad and shouldn't be done, in fact I'm all for this, it will just be near impossible to achieve.  I'm being realistic here.

[patriots_1228 51]

Welcome to simtropolis.

I don't think its right that you blame america for all the worlds problems. every country has caused there fair share of problems, but no one country is responsible for the worlds problems. The other thing you must realize is that the world is never perfect. We will always have problems, war, enemies, etc. There is no way to solve all our problems without creating new problems.

Also, President Bush must remain in the white house until next years election. His failuires provide comedy in a time of war, and he has inspired a great flashplayer series and a great comedy central series

[LivingInThePast 364]

This thread is really strange. It's like that other one...where someone promotes highly radical ideas that are obviously Fascist (ultra-right) or Communist (ultra-left). If we want this to be a good thread, start out on a moderate note.

[Duke87 1,070]

Dismantling nuclear weapons is, unfortunately, simply not a possibility. Because there will always be people who will defy such rules and make them anyway, and unless other people have their own, there's nothing stopping the rule-breakers from using theirs against others.

That's the odd thing about nukes. They're designed never to be used. They're purely a deterrent. If the time comes that they must be used, they've failed at doing their job.

[rossjman1 0]

I like how you propose some steps to solve some of the world's problems, but ignored the biggest one - pollution (air, water, land) and global warming. As a planet, that is our biggest problem. China is a major polluter with no plans on enforcing any sort of Clean Air Act (like we have in the United States). The United States is not far behind, either. Plus all of the other emerging 3rd world countries are polluting more, too.

As for the assassination remark, I live in the United States and I sometimes pass signs on the highway that read impeach Bush and the like. At this point does it really matter? His term is almost up and a Democrat will (probably) take office with a Democratic congress so stuff will actually get done.

As for your plan of all of the rich countries giving some money to the third world countries money will never happen until Earth unifies as one. If we lived in some magical utopia, this might happen. Same with the weapons, they are here to stay and will never go away or slowly banned.

[autoVino 26]

I do hope this doesn't become a global warming discussion...  I would personally want the starvation and lack of clean water gone in the world before global warming... but this is just my prefrence.

The earth won't unify as one.  That goes against the rules of life.  There's a reason why the tiger eats the deer...

It's called compitition.  Everyone strives to be the best and as a result of this they need money and power.  It's an old surviaval strategy.

[gabry85 2]

Hi, Dan.

I'm sorry, but as you (as much as we) want that many problems in the world will be solved, you state a contradiction to your ideas. You cannot say to murder a man like Mr. Bush (who, yes, has entrapped the U.S. in the hell of the Iraq war and ruined the economy) and then propose to ban weapons.

Also, the you can't eliminate the U.N. n order to make one anew. That would create its same problems as we know today. It might be a solution, instead, that diplomacy and cooperation among nations will be the way for what the U.N. was supposed to be at its birth.

IMHO what I strongly want in democracy, is educating people in the understanding of the world we live. I believe that Bush was elected in 2004 in the name of the fear of new attacks. Remember that the more a country is ignorant and scared, the easier is for the powerful to command it at their own will...

[hamsterTK 93]

the only way to fix the world is to get rid of all the people

[belfastuniguy 18]

I take offence by the point you made Danlikebooks that 1st world nations are to blame for the worlds problems. Not only is that factless but lacks basic knowledge of certains aspects of global economics, politics and social structure.

It's all very well arguing that the 'rich' countries give their money to the 'poor' countries. The world does not work like that and flies in the face of economics. Were it not for the wealth of first world nations then many things currently in existance would not exist. First world nations lead the world in technology developments and research. They provide vast amounts of aid to developing nations.

It's up to the governments of those developing nations how they spend it, a good amount of that aid does tend to end up in politicans bank accounts. Something which is disgusting, but in reality what can we do about it. Take away the money?? Then most likely the nation would stall and population in some countries starve.

The worlds problems from trade inequality, environmental damage, illegal migration, countless problems effect this world and they will take a very long time to solve and deal with. Most certainly not all these are the fault of first world countries, that is a most immature arguement to make.

Some other points;

The removal of the United Nations would be a move the world would regret. I believe it needs to be given more powers to do what it should be doing, Calling for it's removal is careless and would have terrible consequences for the world.

President Bush is one man and I do not like him, but his is surrounded by advisers and he is the elected representative of the people of the United States, not all them but enough to get him elected. I'm sure some Americans would find offence also for your desire to have him killed, quite distasteful indeed. That would also most likely cause the United States to become somewhat insular and go on a world-wide hunt for the killer, something I certainly do no wish to see.

Banning all weapons is simply a pipe-dream and will never happen. Whether in the future when today's weapons no longer exist there will still be weapons of some sort. That is human nature as well as having the ability to defend ones nation or indeed in the future to potentaily have to defend earth itself.

We are now in Iraq, in no way whatsoever should we pull out, We have created a mess that we must work on to solve. I supported the war and will always support the British Army whereever they go. Pulling out is not an option until the region is safe and able to develop/prosper without our direct influence and support.

[Goldfish4209 9]

Originally posted by: Danlikebooks The world is in deep trouble.quote>

Of course it is.

Many of these problems are caused by 1st world countries (namely America).quote>

Another america hater? Join the ranks.

Here are my ideas.

First, America must pull out of Iraq (Why are the politicians arguing about this, just get the hell out of there before it becomes another Vietnam-or is it to already too late?)quote>

Welcome to politics. Are politicians really gonna try to fix contreversial problems over voting themselves another raise?

and "President" Bush must step down or be assassinated (whichever comes first, personally I hope for the latter).quote>

You do it. I don't give a care as long as he doesn't come for my money.

All of the 1st world countries must distribute it's money and resources among all 3rd world countries, therefore becoming 2nd world countries.quote>

Go find someone to implement that.

The United Nations must be dissolved and a new, stronger organization should be put up (one not run by corporal fat cats and the like)quote>

Well what's your idea?

and anyone on earth should be able to run for the offices of that organization.quote>

That certainly worked well for the Greeks for a while, but I don't think so.

A rich country should not have more representitives or more power in the new organization than a Banana Republic.quote>

So the vatican city gets 3 reps and China also gets 3?

All Nuclear weapons and biological weapons should be disarmed immediatelyquote>

Haven't we been trying to do that for 60 years?

and all weapons should slowly be bannedquote>

And you're not going to accept that giant bribe from the gun companies?

(now Cheney can't "accidently" kill his friends anymore)quote>

Sure, why not. "Did I kill the bird?" "Now you did, Mr. Vice president."

except for the authorities to keep peace.quote>

And that won't be abused?

Any country that does not follow the rules set by the new organization will be sanctioned against.quote>

And causing more problems than it fixes? That's like iraq. Gimme Saddam or we'll blow you back to the stone age.

That is all I can think of. Comments and new things are greatly appreciated!quote>

No problem.

[crazyyaya 4]

1. Give much more power to the UN and the UN peace keeping force. 2. Promote less child birth, over the next 150+ years, lower the Earth's population to 2 Billion. 3. Slowly give the land of the West Bank to the Palestines, remove Isreali settlements, which are there illegially. 4. Cut the worlds total military budget by 50% over the next decades. 5. Create an internatonal accord banning Nuclear weapons aswell as any WMD from every country. 6. Ban capital punishment. 7. Overhaul the U.S. governments system. 8. Increase aid to Africa by five times. 9. Put into works a giant solar power project in the Mojave desert to add to the North America Power Grid. 10. Send special forces into countries such as Sudan to arrest leaders of war crimes without completely destroying their government.

[Micah 16]

3. Slowly give the land of the West Bank to the Palestines, remove Isreali settlements, which are there illegially.quote>

I'm not trying to stir anything here, but I would like to discuss this civilly:

I'm curious. Why do you think that? And if you believe that, do you think we should give Texas back to Mexico? Or, how about giving the Kurds their own country? Again, I'm simply curious why you think it is illegal. I'm trying not to "rub" you the wrong way here, but I can't think of any other way to ask it.

[crazyyaya 4]

Originally posted by: Micah

3. Slowly give the land of the West Bank to the Palestines, remove Isreali settlements, which are there illegially.quote>

I'm not trying to stir anything here, but I would like to discuss this civilly:

I'm curious. Why do you think that? And if you believe that, do you think we should give Texas back to Mexico? Or, how about giving the Kurds their own country? Again, I'm simply curious why you think it is illegal. I'm trying not to "rub" you the wrong way here, but I can't think of any other way to ask it.quote>

 

Don't worry, I also what to discuss this civilly. Now before I start, I would like to say that I am neither Arab or Isreali and I'm not bias in anyway.

I have made that opinion for several reasons. After the Six-Day war the Isreali government came up with a plan to take back the West Bank. They purposefully started up Jewish settlements from strach all around the West Bank. The goal was, and still is, too overpopulate the Palestinians and place Jewish settlements in key place through the main arteries of the West Bank to block off the Arabs. Even to this day, Isreali lobbist in the U.S. try to convince the government to help pay for Isreali Construction in the West Bank. 

Now to clarify the Illegal part, what the Isreali government is doing breaks International law. The Fourth Gevenva Convention to be exact. The law relates to the protection of civilians during times of war "in the hands" of an enemy and under any occupation by a foreign power.

Although many people dispute the claim that Isreal is breaking International Law. The only way this delicate situation can be solved is slow, steady peace talks along with many consessions.

To answer your other questions;

1. We should not give Texas to Mexico because it has been officailly annexed to America, but I do think America should loosen it's borders (Save that discussion for another thread).

2. I don't think the Kurds should have an offical country, but because the Kurds have large populations in many countries, I would support a Kurdish union, which would not an independant nation but an organization that dealt with various governments to address issues imporant to Kurds.

[LivingInThePast 364]

The world is in deep trouble.quote>

True, but it has always been.

Many of these problems are caused by 1st world countries (namely America).quote>

Obviously, you've never heard of China. Read up on it on Wikipedia.

First, America must pull out of Iraq (Why are the politicians arguing about this, just get the hell out of there before it becomes another Vietnam-or is it to already too late?)quote>

We've discussed this to death and back, and it still comes up. It has pros and cons, and is very controversial. However, pulling out would, in my opinion, be a bad idea. "The Iraq War is another Vietnam" is an opinion, not a fact. My comment is an opinion. Repeat after me. Fact. Opinion. Fact. Opinion. Know the difference.

"President" Bush must step down or be assassinated (whichever comes first, personally I hope for the latter)quote>

Even if you hate a president, you can't wish for assassination. That's murder, and that's ALWAYS wrong.

All of the 1st world countries must distribute it's money and resources among all 3rd world countries, therefore becoming 2nd world countries.quote>

Sorry, Robin Hood, things don't work that way.

The United Nations must be dissolved and a new, stronger organization should be put upquote>

Leading to one world community where a dictator could arise and...oh wait, weren't you against big governments?

(one not run by corporal fat cats and the like)quote>

Again, opinion.

and anyone on earth should be able to run for the offices of that organization.quote>

They can't already? Yes, you go up the food chain. If you're a bum and want to get into the UN right now...you can't. I can't. Just go up the food chain. Even if the UN was dissolved, it would still work the same way.

A rich country should not have more representitives or more power in the new organization than a Banana Republic.quote>

Again, you're being Robin Hood. And it has to do with the "Two Houses" rule. Also, don't put banana republic in caps. "Banana Republic" would be a store in your local mall.

All Nuclear weapons and biological weapons should be disarmed immediately and all weapons should slowly be bannedquote>

We've been trying to do that, people ALWAYS disobey and...weren't you talking murder earlier?

(now Cheney can't "accidently" kill his friends anymore)quote>

That never happened.

except for the authorities to keep peace.quote>

Humanity is corrupt.

Any country that does not follow the rules set by the new organization will be sanctioned against.quote>

Your proposed Worldwide Communist Party will send the secret police there.

That is all I can think of. Comments and new things are greatly appreciated!quote>

Done.

[Mikeaut1 261]

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[saltandsauce 0]

point one if we fixed all the problems in the world then there would be nothing to do

1. lower standard of living in 1st world countries

2. reduce trade between countries this means the west does not exploit the rest of the world which can catch up

3. bring back corporal and capital punishment there are people who are never going to change

4.leave george bush to forget to breathe then there everything is nice and clean

5.make sure food is grown and eaten in the sam country the world does not need to have oranges

6 no battery farm, liver diseased chickens and beef/pork whatever it tastes better and you'll fell less guilty and healthier

7. accept that world unity will never happen people want individuality and want to be a little different in the world

8 accept that men and women are diffrent they may be equal but women are better at choosing colours and men are better at reading maps FACE IT

9make marriage more worthwhile

 

10. get westerners out of this stupid demented idea that 1 child is too much (i should know im one of six and im less miserable than all the single children i know

11.fuhggetaboutit

[Micah 16]

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Indeed.

Obviously, you've never heard of China. Read up on it on Wikipedia.quote>

I don't think playing the "blame game" is the right thing to do. In fact, that's probably one of the reasons the world has problems. Everyone blames each other.

All of the 1st world countries must distribute it's money and resources among all 3rd world countries, therefore becoming 2nd world countries.quote>

Funny thing is, America gives billions to Africa, but you never see the 3rd world nations come out of their 3rd world problems. The leaders there are greedy and the money rarely gets to the people who need it.

except for the authorities to keep peace.quote>

UN peacekeepers? They barely get the job done and they rarely keep the peace.

Edit: 

crazyyaya: Hasn't Israel rightfully owned its land for 60 years? Israel got its land from the Arab nations just as Texas got its land from Mexico. Israel proved itself that it would fight for its land in the 6 Day War (which at that time was about two decades later after becoming a nation) just as America fought for its new annexed state in the Mexican-American War (which at the time was only one year after it became a state of the US).

Now to clarify the Illegal part, what the Isreali government is doing breaks International law. The Fourth Gevenva Convention to be exact. The law relates to the protection of civilians during times of war "in the hands" of an enemy and under any occupation by a foreign power.

Although many people dispute the claim that Isreal is breaking International Law. The only way this delicate situation can be solved is slow, steady peace talks along with many consessions.quote>

Okay, it's breaking international law. But, I don't see how that means that they own their land illegally.

[Meg 368]

Originally posted by: saltandsauce 

1. lower standard of living in 1st world countries quote>

This is going to happen by natural market forces soon enough. 

2. reduce trade between countries this means the west does not exploit the rest of the worldquote>

And keeping our surplus wheat helps the rest of the world how?

3. bring back corporal and capital punishment there are people whoo are never going to changequote>

So let's start beating on them while they are children?  Not sure I'm following your point here.

4.leave george bush to orget to beathe then there everything is nice and lean quote>

There is no one person on this planet who can make everything "nice and lean".   and let's stop with the plans to kill people.

5.make sure food is grown and eaten in the sam country the world does not need to have oranges quote>

How will bringing back scurvy help anything?  and aren't there many countries whose economies rely on their food exports?

6 no battery liver diseased eggs and beef/pork whatever it tastes better and you'll fell less guilty and healthierquote>

I can't parse the phrase "no battery liver diseased eggs" so I won't comment on this

7. accept that world unity will never happen people want individuality and want to be a little different in the worldquote>

I think it's possible for people to be different and still be unified.  but I agree that world unity isn't likely to happen any time soon.

8 accept that men and women are diffrent they may be equal but women are better at choosing colours and men are better at reading maps FACE ITquote>

Perhaps.  but I don't see how this pertains to the discussion at hand.

9make marriage more compulsory quote>

Compulsory marriage?   I can see how that would make things worse; don't see how it would improve anything.

10. get westerners out of this stupid demented idea that 1 child is too much (i should know im one of six and im less miserable than all the single children i know quote>

Overpopulation isn't the answer.

11.fuggetaboutitquote>

 

can't argue with that one 

[autoVino 26]

7. accept that world unity will never happen people want individuality and want to be a little different in the worldquote>

It already happens, and it is called marrige.  Unfortunatly it doesn't always work out the way it should...

[saltandsauce 0]

i meant that if you find someone you should stick by them instead of going around with anyone you meet

and i'll add a point to that list

thoult shalt not fall in love so easily

corporal punishment is fine there are an entire generation of more intelligent, hardworking pleasant people there are some people who need a slap in the face and face it life isn't fair

america's surplus wheat solution is simple grow less you can leave the farms alone and they'll gradually forest over just like they're meant to instead of planting them america grows too much and eats too much anyway

[Voar Tok 4]

Originally posted by: saltandsauce

america's surplus wheat solution is simple grow less you can leave the farms alone and they'll gradually forest over just like they're meant to instead of planting them america grows too much and eats too much anywayquote>

While each day, thousands upon thousands of people die in Africa because they can't find anything to eat.  That really solves the world's problems.

[SkyTearer 10]

THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS IS TO STOP HAVING BABIES

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: SkyTearer THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS IS TO STOP HAVING BABIESquote>

Interesting point. It's no secret that the world is overpopulated with people, and that getting that population to go down would certainly help things.

So suicide is good for the environment. Mass murder is even better. See, there's a bright side to everything.

[belfastuniguy 18]

Originally posted by: SkyTearer THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS IS TO STOP HAVING BABIESquote>

 

hhhhmmmmmmmmm Not really nor is it possible.

The world is over-populated, but the countries that actaully need more people (mainly first world nations) would of course not benefit from this policy. It would in fact over time be very damaging to those economies as the population grows older and older and the last remaining younger generation have to work longer and harder to support the huge and expensive social support structures there to assist old people as well as the pensions.

The focus on limiting child birth should be on poorer nations. These countries do not need a bigger population and by having uncontrolled birth levels it only makes the problems faced by the population even worse.

However, it is a human right to have children, no one government can turn round and say we are banning it. Yes they can limit to one child, but that doesn't always work too smoothly either. The things that will help solve the many problems this planet has will be things like increased aid, better education, better health and a drive towards development of clean fuels and investment in alternative technology.

As Europe has shown, as a population gets more and more wealthly the desire to have countless children is somewhat less of a priority. Make people more economically active and successful and the world birth rate could very well fall.

[crazyyaya 4]

Just thought I'd put this up here. It's a world map with the areas in red being areas with armed conflict going on as we speak.

[autoVino 26]

I wouldn't say the world is overpopulated, just not equally populated.

Some places where I live, you see vast open farmland for what seems forever.  If you go into a huge city with millions of people, its a whole different story.

There's a book that discusses cities, and eventually equal population density called "City", unfortunatly, this leads into the end of the human race and the dogs take over the world (actaully the ants do, but after the dogs decide to leave with all the other animals).  I know, quite silly, but at the same time very philosophical.

[rossjman1 0]

crazyyaya: Thanks for putting that map up. Very interesting. I did not know that there are that many conflicts around the world.

[crazyyaya 4]

Here's also a list on Ongoing Conflicts in the World to go along with the map.

Starting Date of Conflict                   Name                                                 Location

1964	Colombian Armed Conflict	Colombia
1967	Post-Six-Day War Israeli-Palestinian conflict ( including al-Aqsa Intifada)	Israel and Palestine
1969	Communist insurgency in the Philippines	Philippines
1969	Islamic Insurgency in the Philippines (including OEF-P)	Bangsamoro
1975	Conflict in Laos involving the Hmong	Laos
1980	Internal conflict in Peru	Peru
1983	Sri Lankan civil war	Sri Lanka
1984	Kurdish Separatist Insurgency	Turkey
1984	Free Papua Movement	Western New Guinea
1984	Siachen conflict (stalemate)	Kashmir, India
1987	Second Ugandan Civil War	Uganda
1988	Somali Civil War (including 2006 War in Somalia)	Somalia
1990	Casamance Conflict	Senegal
1992	Conflict in the Niger Delta (including Nigerian Oil Crisis)	Nigeria
1993	Ethnic conflict in Nagaland	Nagaland, India
1993	Brazilian gang violence	Brazil
1999	Second Chechen War	Russia
2001	War in Afghanistan	Afghanistan
2003	Iraq War	Iraq
2003	Central African War: Darfur conflict Chadian-Sudanese conflict	Sudan/Chad/Central African Republic
2004	Balochistan conflict	Balochistan, Pakistan
2004	South Thailand insurgency	Pattani, Thailand
2004	Waziristan War	Waziristan, Pakistan
2004	Naxalite (Maoist) insurgency in India	Certain parts of India
2006	Mexican Drug War	Mexico
2006	Fatah-Hamas conflict	Gaza Strip
2007	Second Tuareg Rebellion	North Niger
2007	2007 North Lebanon conflict	North Lebanon