linux for mac

[nino71 0]

Hi every one i was just enquiring where can you download  linux for free for G5 imac 20" Linux. Any can help me i really appreciate it.

Thanks

Tony

[whoopscareless 0]

Hello!

My advice would be DON'T DO IT.

People often bandy around the 'oh just get linux and all your problems will be solved', like it's some kind of program you can download and run instantly like a widget. it ain't so. it's an entire operating system which will involve partitioning your hard drive and learning how to use a totally new, fairly un-user friendly system.

basically if you're really confident with computer use, then a google search for linux picks up the top download sites for it. if you're a casual user who just wants to do stuff without thinking about it (like me), i wouldn't bother.

to the guy who suggested it - that was downright irresponsible and really not terribly helpful, specially if you're going to suggest it and then not respond to questions like this. come on, leaving it to a ***** like me to reply? i wouldn't trust me.

[RooRocz 0]

Originally posted by: whoopscareless Hello!

totally new, fairly un-user friendly system.

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In the words of Linux users everywhere:

Linux _is_ user-friendly.  It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly.

[whoopscareless 0]

badly worded on my part. no offence to linux, it's amazing for servers and stuff like that but i don't think it was a suitable suggestion in this case.

[simzebu 19]

It's great for some things, and not for others. As a part-time Linux user, I disagree that it's not user friendly. But that isn't the point here. The point is nino71's question. I don't know much about the processors on other macs, but Ubuntu, which is what I use, should work on any Intel-based mac.

The main difference is the processor. If you have an Intel or I think most AMDs, you can use Ubuntu.

However, I'm not sure why you would switch from OSX to Linux. While I firmly believe that Linux is a superior OS, I really don't think you will see the benefits, especially since it is quite difficult to get SC4 to work on Linux (Thank you, Microsoft, for without your proprietary software, where would the world be?). Though it is not to my personal taste, OSX has a more friendly interface than any version of Linux I've seen. And it can be annoying to install Linux. You have to re-do the partition on the disk, which isn't all that bad with Ubuntu's graphical install and partition system. But if you want a dual-boot system, it can get a little confusing, and you could partition incorrectly and corrupt your other OS either slightly, like I did the first time I installed Linux, or majorly to the point of it not working any more. And although there are essentials that will work on Linux, like OpenOffice for office suite and GIMP for image editing, which I now use on Windows as well, it can be hard to find other programs for linux.

I hope that was useful.

[Rymac91 15]

Just to point this out, there are linux distros made for the PPC processor, if you look onto a distro's website, they list what thier distro works with, and alot of the good ones work with PPC, Intel, AMD and 64 bit processors. Honestly though, I'd like to know the reason to why you want to switch to linux, just to see if you're doing it for logical reasons..

Linux is a operating system. Meaning, you'd be ethier dual booting Mac OS X & a linux distro or you'd be just running a linux distro. Unless you can't run OS X anymore and can't afford to repair it, or already use linux on all your other machines, I wouldn't recommend it.

[nino71 0]

thanks its useful see i want use linux because i want install sc4 lot editor , i know about partitioning the hard drive , so where can i download it i have g5 ppc 2005

[nino71 0]

Thanks for your advice , i want use linux as partition in the g5 , i want to see if lot editor will work , maybe can create some lots etc...... Regards Tony

[Kakaze 0]

The lot editor isn't going to run under Linux anymore than it'll run under OS X...especially not PPC linux.

Simzebu: Please explain to me how it's Microsoft's fault that SC4 isn't running on Linux? It's running on Mac so it's not like anything in Windows has prevented SC4 from being ported. If you want to blame anyone blame Linux, first and foremost, and blame the industry second. It's amazing that any software runs on Linux half the time considering that no two distros are the same and the fact that Linux is a morass of tight and bloated code held together by spit and gum. To run even the simplest of programmes often requires one to download 50 dependencies - a system made much easier but no better by Package managers - not to mention that there are no standard APIs or system calls that can be used to reduce dependency issues and make software much more compatible across all versions of Linux.

Windows and OS X include almost everything in their foundations that any software would ever need to use to run. In Linux almost all of that stuff has to be downloaded piecemeal and in some instances you might even have several pieces on your computer that do the exact same thing but in a different way and each one is used by a completely different piece of software. Not to mention that all of this stuff is going to be installed in about a million different places all over your machine.

And unless you're never going to install anything beyond the preinstalled software and are only ever going to check email or surf the web, Linux is not user friendly.

[nino71 0]

ok thanks for advice , how do get lot editor / bat editor working on mac . Thanks Tony

[whoopscareless 0]

we need a code monkey really, to write us something of our own. i knew i took the wrong subjects at school. darn it!

[Kakaze 0]

Nino: Without an Intel Mac you have no options for running the editors.

[nino71 0]

Kakaze :   Thanks its a sad that aspyr does not support us mac users fully , we pay our money just like pc users wheres the loyalty ......... any way thanks there is nothing i will see if i can do something one day

[Kakaze 0]

We pay for SC4; we don't pay for the modding tools. EA/Maxis didn't ever have to release them if they didn't want to.

[simzebu 19]

Originally posted by: KakazeSimzebu: Please explain to me how it's Microsoft's fault that SC4 isn't running on Linux? quote>

As I said, proprietary software. And I'm not blaming it all on Microsoft. There's plenty of blame to go around. But one of the biggest hurdles in porting a game away from Windows is working around the proprietary stuff like DirectX in a stable, effective, legal way. The reason it works on a Mac is because a paid group of programmers was given the money, time, and resources they needed to port it.

And the fact that no two distributions are the same has nothing to do with it. If that were so, Any Linux program would require entirely different versions for each distro, and from what I've seen, that just isn't so. In my time running Linux, I've never once had to download a dependency except for standard web plugins that you need to download with Windows anyway, and I've only had to use the terminal a few times. Whereas in the same time with Windows, I've had to download all sorts of things, especially DirectX, and almost every week I have to muddle about with Run... just to keep the dang thing going. And if Linux is such a bumbling mass of code, why does it run so much better in every instance I've used it?

So while I'm not saying Linux is perfect, I think there are quite a few misconceptions in the community about its usability.