Vimy Memorial Rededecation

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

A large contingent of Canadians will attend the rededication of the refurbished Vimy Memorial on this date.  The battle of Vimy Ridge was a watershed in establishing the Canadian identity.  The ceremony will be carried on the CTV main network starting at 10 a.m. eastern time on Monday.

EDIT:  Broadcast time revised.

[schm0 27]

(ignorant American)

Huh?

[JanYpe 17]

At the battle of Vimy Ridge (1917), in Northern France, Canadian forces took a key German fortification. Thousands of British and French soldiers had tried to take it in the years before and had failed. The Germans had built tunnels, multiple lines of trenches, machine gun nests and artillery positions. Using modern infantry tactics, training, planning, nightly raids and barrage- and counter battery-artillery, the Canadian Corps, supported by the British, managed to assault the position.

It is said that upon learning of the victory, a French soldier exclaimed, "C'est impossible!" ("It's impossible!"), and upon learning it was the Canadians who had won it, replied "Ah! les Canadiens! C'est possible!" ("Ah! The Canadians! It is possible!")

The Vimy memorial stands on Canadian soil, as the French granted a piece of the ridge to Canada.

[commanderkai 38]

My old school when I used to live in Whitby Ontario had a good number of students going. I wish I could have went. I moved to Detroit unfortunately, and because of that I wasn't able to go, that and that I hate the Queen being Canada's "head of state" and paying for numerous properties for the Queen for no reason.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Originally posted by: commanderkai  I hate the Queen being Canada's "head of state" and paying for numerous properties for the Queen for no reason.quote>

As far as I know, the only expense in Canada for the Crown is the Governor General.  We would have that whether the title was Governor General, President or Grand Pooh Bah. 

{flame on}

I think it was wise of you to move to the excited states because your attitude is surely not Canadian.

{flame off}

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[Skyfire2275 23]

An impressive monument indeed.

[hym 358]

Glad to see that they are honoring their heritage.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Thanks for the better pic, skyfire.  It is on Canadian soil at Vimy ceded to us by France.

[commanderkai 38]

Originally posted by: N_O_Body

Originally posted by: commanderkai  I hate the Queen being Canada's "head of state" and paying for numerous properties for the Queen for no reason.quote>

As far as I know, the only expense in Canada for the Crown is the Governor General.  We would have that whether the title was Governor General, President or Grand Pooh Bah. 

{flame on}

I think it was wise of you to move to the excited states because your attitude is surely not Canadian.

{flame off}

Photo:

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Ah screw the Monarchy. Canada is multicultural, and having Britain's Queen being Canada's head of state is purely disgusting to me. Then again I'm half French and half Italian Canadian.

Oh and there are more properties. There are residences for the Queen never used. I totally forgot about the Governor General. Great idea there, I don't think our Prime Minister should ask permission for an election. Plus, the Governor General wastes millions of dollars, which could be better spent on anything. It's doubling our expenses since we have the PM and the Governor General doing trips for this and that, two major residences, while one just being some figurehead for a long dead empire.

I'm sure you remember the expenses of our former Governor General.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2003/09/18/clarkson030918.html

Multiculturalism should be represented by the people of all the nationalities in Canada, and not just the British Canadians. It was probably more unCanadian saying that my view is un-Canadian because Canada shoudn't have just one view, it is many views, and thus why I don't like the Monarchy. That's one view out of many, and its a real poor representation.

[JanYpe 17]

God, I guess French people only like royalty when they've got them on the guillotine, eh?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Obviously our semi-French friend hasn't the facts.  If we didn't have the GG, we would still have to have a head of state because it is too much work for the beleaguered PM.  The U.S. Federal system has a more top-heavy system that we do just keeping Bushie from falling over his own feet (and not very successfully, either).  Rather cruel.

I also don't think this little Pequiste has noticed the sun has set for this bourgeois sentiment.  The ADQ is holding the balance of power in Quebec now, and will hold Mr. Charest's feet to the fire while playing the tune of the dance.  The new tune has the lyric, "Independent inside the Canadian federation".

[commanderkai 38]

Originally posted by: N_O_Body Obviously our semi-French friend hasn't the facts.  If we didn't have the GG, we would still have to have a head of state because it is too much work for the beleaguered PM.  The U.S. Federal system has a more top-heavy system that we do just keeping Bushie from falling over his own feet (and not very successfully, either).  Rather cruel.

I also don't think this little Pequiste has noticed the sun has set for this bourgeois sentiment.  The ADQ is holding the balance of power in Quebec now, and will hold Mr. Charest's feet to the fire while playing the tune of the dance.  The new tune has the lyric, "Independent inside the Canadian federation".quote>

Of course we would have a Head of State, why not elect him or her? Why should the British Monarchy have any play in Canada anymore? The Governor General is undemocratic, just like the Canadian Senate. And as much as you might not like the American Federal System, it is a democratically elected figure.

You wonder why Quebec wants to be independent. One of the major factors is that Canada still holding on to the long dead British Empire. If you really believe that it would be too top heavy without a Governor General, have that GG democratically elected, and make Canada more representive of Canada and not just the Queen. You said the sun has set for my statement, the sun also has set for the British Empire, and it won't ever rise for her again.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Originally posted by: commanderkai

Of course we would have a Head of State, why not elect him or her? Why should the British Monarchy have any play in Canada anymore? The Governor General is undemocratic, just like the Canadian Senate. And as much as you might not like the American Federal System, it is a democratically elected figure.

You wonder why Quebec wants to be independent. One of the major factors is that Canada still holding on to the long dead British Empire. If you really believe that it would be too top heavy without a Governor General, have that GG democratically elected, and make Canada more representive of Canada and not just the Queen. You said the sun has set for my statement, the sun also has set for the British Empire, and it won't ever rise for her again.quote>

And if you believe that, I have this tract of land up north of Moosonee that you should get in on the ground floor with.  Maybe you would find it a good investment for your retirement savings.

[your_adress_here 11]

Even Hitler liked this memorial.

[commanderkai 38]

Originally posted by: N_O_Body

Originally posted by: commanderkai

Of course we would have a Head of State, why not elect him or her? Why should the British Monarchy have any play in Canada anymore? The Governor General is undemocratic, just like the Canadian Senate. And as much as you might not like the American Federal System, it is a democratically elected figure.

You wonder why Quebec wants to be independent. One of the major factors is that Canada still holding on to the long dead British Empire. If you really believe that it would be too top heavy without a Governor General, have that GG democratically elected, and make Canada more representive of Canada and not just the Queen. You said the sun has set for my statement, the sun also has set for the British Empire, and it won't ever rise for her again.quote>

And if you believe that, I have this tract of land up north of Moosonee that you should get in on the ground floor with.  Maybe you would find it a good investment for your retirement savings.quote>

Believe what? That the Senate is undemocratic? Hmm....a political body that controls a part of the law making process that has no real accountability and most members in it are just there for being good members to whatever political party they were loyal to.

Or that the Governor General is undemocratic? So an official that has control over when we have elections, and can refuse if he or she so wants to the elected official known as the Prime Minister. A person who can waste millions on "foreign policy trips" which really were nothing more with taxpayers money being flushed down the toilet?

That the American head of state is an elected official?

That the British Empire will not rise again?

I do believe all those things, and I am glad I do. You sir, respectively, are probably alot older than me, considering that sentence in your sig. I would make a guess that you're British due to your statement that I am un-Canadian at expressing my opinion, and that my disagreement with government makes me unpatriotic.

I do not know your history, if you want to inform me I'm sure you have interesting stories to tell me. However, you do not know me either. All you know is that I'm young, I'm living in the United States, I am half French Canadian and half Italian Canada, and that I am a Canadian citizen.

I am a part of the younger generation. I am not a representive of all of them, but Canada has moved past from being a British colony. Many of those school children who went to Vimy Ridge Rededecation, at least those I know, did not go there because they are British and they did it out of colonial pride, they did it to honor Canadian soldiers who were victorious in a Canadian victory. Many of those children probably do not have British backgrounds, I bet many are Italian or Polish or Russian or German or Indian or Chinese or the great many other cultures who have settled in Canada.

This is my opinion, this is what I believe. If it is right or wrong in your eyes, it doesn't matter to me, since that doesn't change the fact that it is an opinion. I have seen the British Royality do many stupid things, including the most recent of which Prince Harry went to a party dressed as a Nazi. Queen Elizabeth II has been a great queen, but her reign will end sooner or later. Somebody will take her place, will they represent everyone like how this queen did, or will they have the short sightness and stupidity of Mr. Harry?

[beebs 129]

The Queen, the GG and to a lesser extent, the Senate are pretty much just figureheads.. they do absolutely nothing to hinder the way of the elected officials. It's not undemocratic at all.

And I do believe Prince Charles is next in line for the throne.