Worst City Planning

[Ntq€310 1]

housten is bad, but L.A is just a disaster, it took years for them to get a good metro system going so when i went there for the rose bowl, there wasent even a thing to cheak if you had a ticket, if i wanted i could have just walked in, even though it could have just been for the rosebowl, none of the stations hadent even been a thing to cheak you tciket anywhhere, none to the side or anything. you also need a car to get everywhere, gas prices alone make city life there exspensive

[TheSixCents 0]

WOW...

The reason why L.A dosent have that great of a Metro is because of three reasons.

1. The City was spread out so metro station are useless.

2. Gaspockets makes digging the tunnels VERY Dangerous.

3. The ground is hard, unlike soft areas like New York and Chicago.

[giorgos69 52]

Athens is probarbly the worst first world western city with poor planning.

[Ross Fox 0]

Ah good ol' Le Corby. Where would Glasgow be without his inspiration to 20th century planners and architects?

Well it wouldn't be the tower block capital of the UK for a start...

Oh and it probably wouldn't have a whopping big motorway ripping through the middle of it,  cutting off the west-end from the city centre.

I still love Glasgow though. I guess the poor planning left over from the '60s adds to the city's unique urban chaos. Still, it's hard to remember that when your bus is crawling at snails pace gradually along the motorway toward one of the busiest bridges in Europe. At rush hour.

[Namesys 3]

ross fox, i don't want to be silly but i'm just asking. Whats wrong with the first picture? Those hi-rises are something ordinary.

[saltandsauce 0]

those are not condos they are tower blocks from the 60s which is a sign of poor quality plus its the tower blocks that are crawling with crime and drugs most the shops are closed and vandalised and the lifts smell of pee

[Namesys 3]

true, but is this really a consequence of city planning? I mean, i heard of gangstas and gypsys, they are violent too, but they don't live in tower blocks but they live in trailers and cheap housing.

[ILL Tonkso 1,236]

Originally posted by: Namesys true, but is this really a consequence of city planning? I mean, i heard of gangstas and gypsys, they are violent too, but they don't live in tower blocks but they live in trailers and cheap housing.quote>

Tower Blocks like this ARE the UK version of trailers and cheap housing.

[Ntq€310 1]

Originally posted by: TheSixCents WOW...

The reason why L.A dosent have that great of a Metro is because of three reasons.

1. The City was spread out so metro station are useless.

2. Gaspockets makes digging the tunnels VERY Dangerous.

3. The ground is hard, unlike soft areas like New York and Chicago.quote>

 

dont forget the fact that there probably not making any money off it

[Mulefisk 15]

There's nothing inherently wrong with tower blocks, they've just fallen into the hands of poor poeople. Once the middle class moves in and takes over, and the poor people are shipped off somewhere else, no-one will complain. (Except the poor people).

[krbe 193]

The Danish equivalent of Council Housing (built and rented out by private housing companies) have some places started to require the disclosure of your income before allowing you to move in to counter the ghetto tendencies.

That being said, the Danish way is clearly not a healthy way to get houses (today it take ages to get one, prices have stagnated and way too few new have been built).

[Ross Fox 0]

Originally posted by: Mulefisk There's nothing inherently wrong with tower blocks, they've just fallen into the hands of poor poeople. Once the middle class moves in and takes over, and the poor people are shipped off somewhere else, no-one will complain. (Except the poor people).quote>

I wouldn't say it's because of poor people (in fact they tend to be "owned" by local government and rented out to poorer residents) it's cause they are big, ugly soulless boxes, often poorly constructed, seperated by poorly maintained green space, wasteground, and parking areas and planned out in dull, sprawling estates with little in the way of local services, businesses or mass transport and a lot in the way of crime, economic depression and social depression. If anyone is to blame it should be the government for not maintaining and updating the blocks themselves and the urban area around them. But it's unlikely to happen, I won't shed any tears when these blocks come crashing to the ground.

[dogma555 187]

There is traffic in ANY major city ANYWHERE. This is can hardly be used in an argument when it comes to city planning, because all large metro areas (i'd say with millions of residents) this will occur. Theres nothing you can do about it either, even though 75% of those in Manhattan do not own cars, there are still 60-90 minute delays to cross in and out of Manhattan, especially the Hudson River crossings into Jersey.

[jjune4991 1]

everyone has the town or city they hate...and all of you have good reasons, but port saint lucie is by far the worst planned city on the treasure coast of florida. the population boom there was no match for the city planners. streets were carelessly placed, and getting lost is as easy as reading this post. also, road that should've been widened years ago are now being widened...well into this suburban sprawl. port saint lucie sucks...end of story.

[192284_1434460631 1]

boston.

[politicman 1]

Many citys in the world can be better

[davidstriegel 2]

The only thing I can think of is my home city, Louisville, KY. There is a 3 interstate junction called the kennedy Intersection AKA "spaghetti junction. its a piece of crap. They also are building a new arena They wanted to put it on the fairgrounds... or UofL campus, thankfully they put it downtown. They are also building a new building called muesem plaza it is supposed to be the tallest in louisville. one more thing, I-265 supposedly loops around the south ends at the Ohio river and starts back up in Indiana.

[ianpaschal 77]

I give votes to LA, or Detroit.

One small example of terrible urban development was the Bijlermeer near Amsterdam.

[FFVImaster 0]

Boston. I can't think of any major city in North America with a worse road layout, worse traffic, and worse drivers, all put together.

Binghamton is a little crazy too, with the way major roads go into and out of it (I-81, NY-17, US-11, NY-12, and NY-7).

The DC area and Syracuse aren't particularly driver-friendly either.

I can't say for the rest of the world, however. I have heard that Madrid has the worst traffic on earth.

[ilikehotdogsalot 308]

NYC throwing up on LA = Sao Paulo

[RMJcar 2]

Los Angeles's traffic problem is caused by many problems. We (I am from LA) use to have one of the best mass transit systems in the world with streetcars going all over the city. After they were all taken out, freeways were planned to go over certain areas. After much controversy, many planned freeways were never built. Currently we are planning a light rail line (expo) to go to the westside of Los Angeles were there are no rail lines.

[DanNukesAll 0]

Im with MidwestSimGeek, Minneaplolis metro area is bad the Light rail goes no where the highways are a mess, but they are trying to "unweave the weave" when it snows it can get bad, but thet are good at removal of snow. 

In my home town Lakeville there is massive development, one of the fastest growing cities in the US. The planners are just spreading out, gobbling up all the nice framland and turning it into homes or comercial areas. with in a 4 mile drive threre are 2 Cub Grocery stores. Downtown Lakeville is tiny and old. Apple Valley, just north of Lakeville is all suburbia, and there is 2 highways that are only 2 lanes that always seem to be backed up. Any where you look on the tangle of minneapolis there are back ups, escpesially now that 35w is down until next winter.

Other than that Minneapolis is nice.

[SimRabbit 48]

glasgog looks pretty deppresing... anyone know what's the suicide rate there?

[Minister of Silly Walks 0]

while Old Austin Highway in San Antonio is forgetten and underused.quote>

It's being really redeveloped right now. It's a striking contrast with even a decade ago.

Maybe we'll be lucky and the commuter rail link between Austin and San Antonio will finally go forward, but at a projected $600 million+ for a single line to stretch the 110+ miles, I doubt it. Austin's light rail is underway, but San Antonio's politics and poor economy has likely locked it out of the expensive light rail option for the next decade or so. quote>

San Antonio has a booming economy, as does the rest of Texas. It's just that San Antonio is historically a poorer city. And light rail is going to be discussed for the north of downtown "River North", the massive redevelopment of the area just north of downtown that is around the river.

[spacedragonblue 1]

TheSixCents: The ground is very hard in NY too-Manhattan Schist makes a wonderful bedrock for skyscrapers but is also very hard to excavate, but we managed to build a subway system anyway.

Giorgos69: I was just in Athens 2 weeks ago and I completely agree. All the apartment buildings look like they were built by the same 3rd rate architect in the 50s. The subway helps a little, but the Plaka would be nicer without the train rumbling right through the middle of it.

[anarchy0029 2]

Las Vegas

Since the recent earthquake in Northern Nevada. Imagine a 6.0 in Vegas. I'm better off in the Bay Area than Las Vegas.

Plus, the accidents are very frequent along the strip and Interstate.

Downtown isn't much better.

The city is growing too fast with too many problems.

[legoman786 1]

I vote my home town of Tucson, AZ... They could have made I-19 go much farther up noth, but it stops @ the I-10/I-19 junction. Making inner city travel mostly by avenue/side street.

[cammo2003 20]

Sydney, or more correctly the NSW Government. It's a cluster*bleep* of monumental proportions. Beautiful, but horribly planned (or more, not invested in enough).

[ABCD12345 1]

My home town. Manila (Metro Manila as whole) really have a poor urban planning. Heck, The officials doesn't even know what the heck "urban planning" is.

 We have an avenue here, called Commonwealth avenue. Some people call it as a "airport runway" since its so wide it can be used as a runway.  And guess what? It still get jammed by traffic. Now the "planners" is conducting a road widening program so the Commonwealth avenue will turn from a 10 lane (5 lane on each side) avenue to a  15 lane avenue.

[memedoug85 36]

I agree with cammo2003. Sydney wasn't planned with the future in mind