simcity disasters concept

[Wei 0]

1. water
-rain (light)
"light rain is has little effect on your city, but tends to cause more accidents, and some sims may get the flu"
-rain (medium)
"much like light rain, but can a little pressure on your water systems. water levels may rise slightly"
-rain (heavy)
"starting to put a some pressure on your water systems. water levels are rising. if your water system is poorly maintained you may get a pipe burst"

-flood (minor)
"around one to three feet of water is hitting your city (or areas of it). some sims may get stranded. much more accidents. the water system is suffering some problems"
-flood (major)
"three to six feet of water is pounding on your city. the poor water system isn't going to take it any longer and will burst. sims stranded. some power outages"

-waves (small)
"small waves have little to no effect."
-waves (large)
"waves are getting big now. a slight effect. actually, this can make your surfer sims happy)
-waves (very large)
"these waves are only for the hardcore surfers. a lot of sims will run for cover"
-waves (huge)
"no surfer will even dare to go near a wave this size. possible damage to beach property and possible temporary floods."

-tsunami
"all your beach property are belong to us! severe destruction to coastal areas. can be followed by earthquake."
-mega tsunami
"your city is doomed! hahahahahaa..."

2. weather
-storm
"a storm with both rain and thunder/lightning. minor effects"
-severe storm
"a storm with lots of rain and lighting. lighting strikes WILL happen."

-hook detected
"a hook cloud is looming over your city. now is the time to warn your sims"
-tornado (F1 to F3)
"small to bad damage. flying debree can damage far away buildings"
-tornado (F4 to F6)
"bad to unspeakable damage."

-hail (minor)
"damage to buildings with large amounts of glass. car accidents. buildings with windowed roofs get the most damage"
-hail (major)
"severe damage to glass and roofs. many car accidents."
-hail (beach ball sized)
"possible doomsday scenario"

-tropical storm
"slightly more severe than regular storm"
-hurricane
-H:1
"minor damage"
-H:2
"damage"
-H:3
"harsh damage"
-H:4
"severe damage"
-H:5
"devastation"

-wind (normal)
"a fine breezy day."
-wind (windy)
"getting really windy."
-wind (gale)
"umbrellas turn inside-out."

-snow (light)
"your simkids are gonna have some fun"
-snow (normal)
"school is certainly out"
-snow (heavy)
"some sims could get snowed in"
-snow (severe)
"snowed in sims. chance for ice"

-blizzard (normal)
"combined severe wind, rain, and snow"
-blizzard (severe)
"combined very severe wind, rain, and snow"

-ice (little)
"some sims trapped, car accidents"
-ice (much)
"many sims stranded. many car accidents"
-ice (trapped)
"nearly all sims stranded, no one is going to go anywhere"

3. fire


5. human (well, actually sim)

-crime
(already covered in game)

-pollution
(already in game, but i think some forms of it should have a longer lasting effect on the enviorment)

-nuclear (power plant)
(already covered in game)
-nuclear (accident)
"this can occur with anything that may handle radioactive materials"

-war (closed: within city)
"it's the east side vs. the west side (or whatever the case)"
-war (not closed: city vs. city)
"a neighboring city has opposed to something you did, and has delcared war on your city"
-war (not closed: regional)
"the region as a whole is suffering from war-time. some parts still may be neutral however."
-war (not closed: region vs. region)
"another distant region has declared war on yours for -reason-."

added to the human (sim?) section. 

[salut221 10]

F6 tornadoes doesn't exist . . .

[antipat 0]

First of all...

@salut221. Actaully, its immposible to know unless recorded. The damage from an F-5 is the worst, so you couldn't tell if an F-6 came through.

In the first Sim City, they did have flood. I like all your ideas. All the weather disasters makes it more realistic. You forgot an ice storm and snow storm.

[1dera3 28]

Now, how to code all of that...

quirlx, where are you?

I think it would be pretty much impossible, seeing as how much memory SC4 already eats up AND the fact that you just can't really do it without getting into the stuff that's hardcoded into the game, which cannot be put into a DAT or SC4LOT or whatever.

Sorry to rain (or windstorm or snow or tornado or whatever) on your parade.

//1D3

[Wei 0]

oh no!  i am so ashamed. i let too much time pass.

[BarbulaM1 38]

Wrong forum, but good ideas .

[prince_of_sims 0]

Good ideas, yes. But next to impossible to implement. AFAIK, disasters are handled by the EXE, and the only decompiled version exists somewhere in the archives of Maxis's computers.

[Linda 0]

Originally posted by: salut221 F6 tornadoes doesn't exist . . .quote>

I read a science fiction short story many years ago that took place on a planet that was slightly larger and slightly warmer than Earth. Like Earth, the surface was about two-thirds water and one third land-- except all the land was grouped together into a super-contiant, resulting in an ocean twice the size of (and slightly warmer than) the Pacific. The settelers from Earth ajusted the hurricane scale to add not only F6 but also F7.

[dadyrghluv 8]

which is impossible to get! but if they can be done, by all means i'm up for some of your suggestions, especially the rain, great idea and what it could do to your citys.

[Wei 0]

yes, but what if maxis is watching us? simtropolis is basically the best simcity fansite out there, and because the orginal site is inactive, they are probably looking here instead (hi will wright! how are you doing)

[peter1908hk 0]

Nuclear Missile Launching......

[dadyrghluv 8]

peter: just start a fire with ur nuclear power plant and watch it go BOOM big time.

[S_C_mbody 0]

Interesting. - Good ideas, I can't deny that, but I'm wondering what it would put into the game...*Nothing yet comes to mind*...Thinking, thinking, thinking...Thinkety, think, think, think...

peter: That's just about the most covered disaster subject here on simtropolis.

Wei

[coolotter88 2]

i'd have to say "nuclear launch detected" sounds way cooler than "nuclear missile launching"

[hamsterTK 93]

F6 tornadoes doesn't exist . .quote>

They say the 1999 Oklahoma city tornado could've maybe been an F6 if that designation existed and the wind speeds were measured accurately on the ground so I've heard...

the F scale actually have F6 because Dr. Fujita himself made it that way, but the different weather agencies do not use it so techically yeah no such thing

BTW, I doubt any of this is really feasible right now. Even with parts of the game's source code it would still be an insane amount of work....

[anilber 0]

what about:

The Black Death

would cause the population of your city to gradually decline till half of the population is dead. Tourism stops, businesses close due to dead owners/employees. virtually no social gatherings between sims (parks and plazas empty). a lot of those who have not died decide to leave the city, many buildings abandoned, long "bread lines," possibly riots, the list can go on and on...

so what do you think? a disease disaster would have been so cool!

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Originally posted by: anilber what about:

The Black Death

would cause the population of your city to gradually decline till half of the population is dead. Tourism stops, businesses close due to dead owners/employees. virtually no social gatherings between sims (parks and plazas empty). a lot of those who have not died decide to leave the city, many buildings abandoned, long "bread lines," possibly riots, the list can go on and on...

so what do you think? a disease disaster would have been so cool!quote>

Pasturella Pestis is not likely to hit an inland city.  It is most likely to be transmitted by rats off foreign ships.  Rats to fleas to other animals to man.  How about a nice viral haemorrhagic fever like Ebola, instead?

[Bookworm 1]

These are all great ideas, but they sound really hard to code, probably not even something that could be done in SC4...

[peter1908hk 0]

Zombie War ( Biohazard )...

Global Warming ...

[antaryjczyk 0]

all the ideas are great, but if i could i would like to give few new disaster idea:

1. mud flow (it happens when the intensive rain drop into steep slope like in Venezuela)

2. groud flux (it happens at the same time with earthquake)

[teddyrised 1]

I think anilber and N_O_Body brought out some really important point - simctiy 4 assumes that there will not be any disease outbreaks... ebola and black death would be fine, just any population health crisis will make simcity 4 disaster more realistic.

We really need waves, I mean, the incorporation of water physics into the game. If you try making a lake then make a big meteorite crash into it, upon impact a little splash is created and nothing me. If water physics are incorporated large waves can be created... not feasible in the short term since it requires restructuring the entire game since if physics are incorporated it makes the game more demanding. Underwater earthquakes can lead to tsunamis, metorite crashing into the water can bring up large waves and etc...

I am thinking that if dams can be built in the game, maybe earthquakes and heavy rains can trigger it's collapse... and heavy rains can also cause flooding in low lying areas (again,physics needs to be incorporated into the game). And this is even more possible and realistic if simcity 4 allows construction below sea level (like in the netherlands).

Like what antaryjczyk have pointed out, we need landslides too! And soil liquefaction during an earthquake will also add to the extend of damage. Simnce simcity 4 also have network tunnels (like roads, rail, highway) maybe the game can randomly but not too often create disasters like tunnel collapse, tunnel fires. And if the tunnels are underwater (e.g. tunnel going under water, idea adapted from the movie "Daylight"), maybe the tunell fire leads to tunnelt flooding.

Looks like I got carried away...

[Constantina 5]

Maybe hyperinflation? That is very dramatic.

[Maranello575 5]

Yeah,maybe economic disasters like the stock market crash for example.

[igiboydeguzman 0]

You forgot...

Volcano (already in game, but should be divided to types)

Hawaiian Eruption- The lava flows gracefully.

Strombolian Eruption- A fountain of lava shoots beautifull (but deadly) lava bombs.

Plinian Eruption- Remember Dante's Peak? Well this is similar.

Bombs

Structural Collapse (as in the collumns weaken and snap...)

Plane Crash (only works when you have an airport, choose from a Cessna to a 747)

Derailment

Train Collision (I don't if this is possible now)

[Red1530 1]

All very great suggestions for disasters. I hope some of them get implemented in Simcity 5.

[salut221 10]

Say what you want , but when I was saying that F6 tornadoes doesn't exist , 'twas just my opinion .

[G Money 0]

Maybe throw a really sick volcano such as St. Helens in there and you got ash all over your region.

[Daeley 46]

if only we could add our own disasters... I'm afraid it's one of those things that will remain conceiled in the .exe forever

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

I think a mod or an admin with more confidence in the process than I should add this to the future discussion thread here.

Proper thread for this already exists.  -- closed.  NOB