San Francisco v2.0

[tri 3]

This comes late, but 101 doesn't quite get to Canada. It stops at the Strait of Juan de Fuca in northwest Washington. It hits its northern-most point in the city of Port Angeles, which is about 100 miles northwest of Seattle. Then it loops the Olympic National Park on the Olympic Peninsula, and officially ends at I-5 in Olympia, Washington's capital. I live in Seattle.

Wonderful job you're doing, eppisgood. That east region shot you took is the first thing in this game to actually make me stop and say out loud, "whoa." Here's a cookie.

[eppisgood 6]

One of the most photographed locations in San Francisco, Alamo Square's famous "postcard row" at Hayes and Steiner Streets is indeed a visual treat. A tight, escalating formation of Victorian houses is back-dropped by downtown skyscrapers, providing a stunning contrast. The grassy square itself is an ideal midday break. One of 11 historic districts designated by the Department of City Planning, the area includes several bed and breakfast inns.

 

 

 

It isn't complete, but how does it compare to the real thing below?  What suggested housing would you recommend I put around Alamo Square instead of what is currently there?

[eppisgood 6]

I updated the overview picture once again.  The Bayview District has over 50,000 low wealth citizens now.  Downtown San Francisco has over 70,000 middle & high class, and the Richmond District has 20,000 middle class.  The map will look a little rough around the edges because I was in a rush.

 

What do you guys think about the question in the above post?  Do those types of residential dwellings around Alamo Square look OK, or do you think I should replace them with something else?

[ALTX 40]

just curious but eppisgood....

 

did you happen to use my japantown plaza lot for japan town? i strangely modeled it after the j=twon in sf

[Ded 30]

just out of interest, those last houses you showed look very similar to those in the opening sequence of, ermm, full house... (is that what it was called?)

[Shoe 2]

http://sfgov.org/planning/

This is the official site of SF's planning Dept. They have specific zoning maps of Downtown, Chinatown, SoMa, as well as other areas. Give it a looksie.

[eppisgood 6]

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On 10/25/2003 6:02:40 PM ALTX wrote:

just curious but eppisgood....

 

did you happen to use my japantown plaza lot for japan town? i strangely modeled it after the j=twon in sf

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Actually, I used your "Zen Garden" as the landmark in J-Town.  For some reason I didn't find your Japantown Plaza until you mentioned it right then. It looks much more like J-town then the Z-Garden, but that one looks cool too.  My Chinatown looks pretty weak too because of the lack of pagoda's, etc in the game.  There isn't much development around either of those places, so I'll post pictures when the area has filled out.  One thing in regards to your Chinatown Market , Chinatown Tentements , and Chinatown Martial Arts School  is that all of them are one piece, with the roads and everything, they are an awkward fit in a city of 3x3's, 3x4's, and 4x4's.  If you broke up the pieces, made them RCI ploppable, they'd be much easier to place.

And yes, Alamo Square is the first shot you see in the beginning of Full House.  Victorian Houses on a 1x2 or a 1x1 lot, with a zero lot line, would look perfect there.

Thanks, Shoe, for the website, it looks like the website I was looking for from the beginning.

[ALTX 40]

well actually eppisgood im gonna start up chinatown again as soon as i find out how to create intergrated sc4path rules with lots and if a asin tileset to appear soon.....

[RodneyMullen03 5]

Also, North Los Angeles County is really cheap. I've seen 4 Bedroom/2 Bathroom houses going for about $300,000!!! That's up in Lancaster and Palmdale and everything. They are selling great houses for great prices.

[eppisgood 6]

Here's a sneak peak of the Financial District in it's mid-stage development.  The Hilton is souther to Market St. than where I placed it, but that was the only 2x5 block in that area.

 

[Chesslover 0]

It's too bad the simulator makes recreating a city like this so difficult, what with not being able to get higher-stage buildings on diagonal roads. Beyond that hindrance, I'm very impressed with your work.

[Shoe 2]

Do you got the Bank Of America Tower in there yet? Yeah, it looks really nice, It will be hard to get big enough buildings around Market St. though. I'm just curious-is this a scaled-down model of SF? Because it looks like some of your blocks are really small, but I've never took the time to convert the real life blocks to Sim-sized ones. Good work though, and I'd be glad to help since I have been there and done many studies on it(it is my favorite city and I get almost all of my Sim City inspiration from it).

[eppisgood 6]

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On 10/26/2003 7:37:16 PM Chesslover wrote:It's too bad the simulator makes recreating a city like this so difficult, what with not being able to get higher-stage buildings on diagonal roads.

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I'm going to plop the commercial buildings along the southside of Market St. to solve that problem.  I've found that they don't need to have roads touching all portions of each side in order to be functional.

Bank of America isn't there yet, there isn't enough CO$$$ demand to justify it, might even mess up the balance I've created.  And yes, this is a slightly scaled down model of SF.  I had to eliminate a few streets or else each block would've been 2x2 instead of 3x3 & 4x4.  So because of that, Bank of America will be plopped directly west of the TransAmerica Pyramid, when it should be slightly to the south, catacorner the Pyramid... and it will also be facing the wrong way.

[ALTX 40]

hey eppisgood can you show pics of the asian districts of SF? hehe

 

remember chinatow is pretty much 6 blocks by 6 blocks

[Acinonyx 1]

I'm deleting SC4/RH and breaking my CD's in itty-bitty teansy-weansy peices.  Your SF region makes me sick. I'll never make this good of a reproduction.

 

Okay, so I lied.... this region is really really really good.

 

You haven't started on Alameda yet, but I'll give you some insight from what I remember back in the 80's.  I lived on the Enterprise when we were in port, but got into town as much as I could.

 

As have been stated earlier, most of the residential areas in Alameda are R

[eppisgood 6]

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On 10/26/2003 9:00:12 PM ALTX wrote:

hey eppisgood can you show pics of the asian districts of SF? hehe

 

remember chinatow is pretty much 6 blocks by 6 blocks

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I have some space troubles there.  You can see Chinatown northwest of the Financial District in the Downtown "sneak peak" picture.  I don't think it's going to get much bigger than that, perhaps spread across California St. to the south, but only half of that block.  J-Town is even smaller, but I need to do some reconfiguring in that area before I can expand it.  If you wanted to make some 2x4 or 2x2 RCI ploppable "Chinacondos" that have an oriental feel to them I could make a seamless transition into the neighboring districts.

Sidenote: Is it just me or have any of you noticed that when you plop an RCI ploppable residential lot, it never gets commute paths coming or going?

Acinonyx, thanks for the breakdown on the naval base, I'll use that when I finish up the western tip of Alameda.  But for the most part Alameda's citizens are finished, I put really nice expensive homes on the southern-east end (around and past the canals) and the street blocks are all 1x's on the north-east portion.. in the western end it's 2x's and 4'x and it's $ & $$... I even have the South Shore Shopping Center (California Plaza Landmark) where nearly 1/4th of Alameda's residents work.

[El Effe 5]

It's nice to see your photos of Alameda in the 80's. I was there in the late 60's and early 70's. I was stationed aboard the USS Oriskany CVA 34 and I had a good friend that was on the Hornet. Our ships operated together when we were members of the Tolkin Bay Yacht Club. In port I lived on San Jose Ave in a 3 story mansion that had been converted to apartments. There were some really beautiful houses in Alameda.

[Acinonyx 1]

El Effe:
What a fine Navy day it is to meet another squid.  Were you part of the aircrew or ships company?

 

I know exactly where you lived.  I was just outside the gates on Buena Vista for a short while just before my last WestPac in 85.

 

My uncle was aboard the Connie in 66 when the Oriskany had that early morning fire in the Gulf of Tonkin.

 

Were you onboard the O for the Forrestal fire in 67?

 

Sheesh, you guys had some bad luck during that last Cruise on Yankee Station, huh?  Collision with that AE and later losing the screws?

 

Seems like the only things I remember about the Mighty O are the ones we'd rather forget.  My cover is off to you El Effe for serving aboard such a fine ship.

 

eppisgood:

Sorry for the random tangent in your thread eppisgood.  It's El Ef's fault for making me get all nostalgic again.

[El Effe 5]

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On 10/27/2003 7:49:50 AM Acinonyx wrote:

El Effe:

What a fine Navy day it is to meet another squid.  Were you part of the aircrew or ships company?

 

I know exactly where you lived.  I was just outside the gates on Buena Vista for a short while just before my last WestPac in 85.

 

My uncle was aboard the Connie in 66 when the Oriskany had that early morning fire in the Gulf of Tonkin.

 

Were you onboard the O for the Forrestal fire in 67?

 

Sheesh, you guys had some bad luck during that last Cruise on Yankee Station, huh?  Collision with that AE and later losing the screws?

 

Seems like the only things I remember about the Mighty O are the ones we'd rather forget.  My cover is off to you El Effe for serving aboard such a fine ship.

 

eppisgood:

Sorry for the random tangent in your thread eppisgood.  It's El Ef's fault for making me get all nostalgic again.

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I was ships company. I was the ET incharge of the radar repeaters and IFF ( I also did Crypto before the Navy changed policy). That fire is one of the reasons we called the Oriskany the "Toasty O". When I was aboard, at sea, we had a fire almost every day. If it missed a day we would have two fires the next day to make up for it. I didn't mind a fire in hanger bay A because that was 'officers country'. I got a bit nervous when the fire was in hanger bay B because that was the JP5 station. I really shook in my boots when the fire was in hanger bay C because that was where they stored the ready ordinance.

In '67' I was still a submarine sailor on USS Sculpin SSN 590. I have seen the offical Navy movies of the "Forest Fire". In '68' I went through Electronics B School and then was stationed aboard the USS Permit SSN 594. While in B school I became President of the AFO (Armed Forces Organization) at the Embarcadaro YMCA. It was at the 'Y' that I met many sailors from the carriers.

In '69' the Permit's home port was changed to Pearl Harbor. I was requalifying on escape tank training when the release valve on my Stanke Hood jammed. As a result I spent many hours in a decompression chamber and was medically disqualifed from the submarine service. Due to my record the Navy gave me my choice of my next assignment and I chose the Oriskany because of the many fine people I had met that was stationed aboard her during my stay in San Francisco.

I do not recall a collison with an AE that must have been before or after my time aboard. In Oct 70 I was transferred to Da Nang. I do recall that about a week after my transfer that an F4 crashed into the rear sponset of the Toasty O and caused a lot of damage.

 

[Frogshi 0]

I agree to that neighborhood reply from cityman14. I live in Maryland (in the DC) area, and those houses must be right out of North Potomac. Anyways, great job on your realistic city, eppisgood! Everything seems so accurate .

[frogface 354]

Its interesting to see this region recreate san fransisco and mine which is the same place San frogfaceco.

can we see more region shots plz?

[+Guest]

This is a house in my area...(Sydney)

CASTLE HILL n/a n/a Avenue

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A PLACE WE CALL HOME   From the moment you enter the home, you are struck by its distinct contemporary charm. The main entry passage leads to the home's formal living area where an open staircase leads to the upstairs sector. Space has been used to maximum potential with an innovative fifth bedroom being ingeniously placed with separate bathroom possibly for in law accommodation. Extending from the living area is a modern kitchen complete with ceramic floor tiles, modern lighting and timber cupboards, family meals area, rumpus room which flows into the space with abundance sunlight onto a rear undercover courtyard. All four other bedrooms and a second rumpus have been purposely located on the second level allowing the family privacy, all three bedrooms feature built in robes, the main with walk in robe and ensuite. This home is completed with the inclusion of quality carpet, auto double garage, ducted vacuum, air conditioning, tinted windows and alarm system. Walking distance from major shopping centre, high school and just next door to a primary school.

Price: A$729,000 - US$450,000

CASTLE HILL n/a n/a GR

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APARTMENT!   Located on a quiet street that is within walking distance to Castle Towers Shopping Centre. You will be impressed by this apartment with three spacious bedrooms all with built ins, master with ensuite. A quality finish throughout featuring large living with ducted air conditioning, kitchne with granite bench tops and gas appliances, adjoining a private entertaining balcony overlooking a tranquil landscape. Lift facility, security basement garage. Handy to all the Castle Hill amenities, perfect for a first home buyer or investor.

Price: A$519,000 - US$350,000

[eppisgood 6]

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On 11/7/2003 7:05:30 PM frogface wrote:

Its interesting to see this region recreate san fransisco and mine which is the same place San frogfaceco.

can we see more region shots plz?

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There aren't anymore region parts other than Marin, Alameda, San Mateo, and San Francisco counties, and I've shown the progress on all within the thread.  Here is the most recent regional screen shot.  Downtown is still a long ways from being finished, the other areas need to be built up before it can support more than 125,000 sims.

[Vatt3 8]

I don't know if anyone has said this yet but it would be great if you uploaded that to some free webspace or something becuase the city looks great! I would love to download it... (of course when you're finished)

[Frogshi 0]

Here's a suggestion, but it might ruin your goal to create San Francisco as a realisitc city. South of San Francisco, there are some empty space (on your region map). Why not build your own metropolis south of San Francisco? It could be 2050, and a new city named San Eppis or something else .

[eppisgood 6]

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On 11/8/2003 11:33:03 PM Frogshi wrote:

Here's a suggestion, but it might ruin your goal to create San Francisco as a realisitc city. South of San Francisco, there are some empty space (on your region map). Why not build your own metropolis south of San Francisco? It could be 2050, and a new city named San Eppis or something else

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Umm.. yeah.. I don't think so.  But thanks for the suggestion   Perhaps my next region will be a fictional one.  Or when this one is finished I'll MSMessenger people it if they'd like, then they can create/add/modify however they'd like.

[eppisgood 6]

Here's a closer up view of the downtown area, there is a lot more to construct here...

 

[+Guest]

You should download the Industry Quadluipiter (or whatever it is called). It multiplies the amount of jobs provided by industrial buildings by 4. You can get it at www.simcitycentral.net Not sure fi ti is here at ST.

[eppisgood 6]

I use that patch already.  I have about 28,000 industrial jobs in the downtown region alone.  South of that pic, in the "industrial" part of SF there are over 40,000 and just about halfway complete.

[Minotaur420 2]

Your progress looks great eppisgood, keep up the good work.