Train Mods

[frogface 352]

thanks a lot that was the website iwas looking for! anyway ive done the front of the train it would be better if i had a bigger image so i could get more detail but so far it coming on fine. and yes it is the new NYC subway cars

[frogface 352]

go here for the NYC subway train:

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?sessionID=F11568C8A02A473387D6F506D7F79996&topicID=42782&pageNo=1

 

[BamaKid325 1]

I like the mods you are doing Trolca. I do have one request. I live in the northern part of Alabama not too far from a Norfolk Southern railyard. Could you make some of those engines and cars? Thanks. If I find the website, I will post it here for you.

[Dearnen 11]

Bamakid,

Last month I posted some mods that add locomotives from the major American railroads to the game, including NS.

 

Link:

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=41015&sessionID=A8F00438850E4DD8B89E137F557B019B

 

The first several are Western roads; CSXT and NS can be found further down the thread.

 

-Dearnen

[Edman_123 11]

Do you think that you could make an Acela train that somewhat matches your most recent Amtrak engine, Trolca? I mean, having the back of the engine matching the wagons, but the fron using the greenish Acela colors and shape. This would be a great idea, because the current engines. Possibly a pantograph could be added above, similar to Oppie's at SCC. Also, do you think you could provide the MAD-103? It's what Amtrak calls the "Genesis" engines. Here are some good sites for information:

1. TrainWeb Genesis

2. Amtrak

[BamaKid325 1]

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On 11/26/2003 4:56:32 PM Dearnen wrote:

Bamakid,

Last month I posted some mods that add locomotives from the major American railroads to the game, including NS.

Link:

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=41015&sessionID=A8F00438850E4DD8B89E137F557B019B

The first several are Western roads; CSXT and NS can be found further down the thread.

-Dearnen

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Ok....I feel dumb on that one. I guess I did not look far enough for it. Thanks for the info.

[Trolca 15]

I like the mods you are doing Trolca.  I do have one request.  I live in the northern part of Alabama not too far from a Norfolk Southern railyard.  Could you make some of those engines and cars?  Thanks.  If I find the website, I will post it here for you.

Raymond Lane Wallace
CEO/Pres.
Wallace Enterprises, Inc.

I can add the cars to my list if Dearnen doesn't have them on his.

Do you think that you could make an Acela train that somewhat matches your most recent Amtrak engine, Trolca?  I mean, having the back of the engine matching the wagons, but the fron using the greenish Acela colors and shape.  This would be a great idea, because  the current engines.  Possibly a pantograph could be added above, similar to Oppie's at SCC.  Also, do you think you could provide the MAD-103?  It's what Amtrak calls the "Genesis" engines.  Here are some good sites for information:

I've had Acela on my list for some time. I'll try to get to it soon. Perhaps it's something Oppie might be interested in as well.

For now, three box car sets for the River Haven set.

This post has the replacements for the two original cars.

The next two sets have four cars each.

[Trolca 15]

Set 2.

[Trolca 15]

Set 3.

[Tass 0]

The new River Haven tran car set is awesome, just as I pictured them in my mind. Many thx Trolca, again.

 

[kassarc16 4]

Yes! Good work Trolca! Good bye CP engines and boxcars, rest in peace.

[shanghai kid 6]

@Trolca

Will there be a tutorial for making/creating our own train engines and wagons(like yours but our way and with our own looks).

ps: keep up the good work and hopefully we will soon get to have the different trains at the same time in the game, eksample Rocky Road and River Heaven train packs.
(sorry for any misspelling)


shanghai kid
from Norway.

[dc_dragon 0]

I need some help on puting the FSH back into the game. I can create the FSH, then edit it, but i'm lost from there. Do you make it a .dat or how do you get it back in the ilive reader. I tryed the batch method and it did seem to work.If you could help me that would be great,thx.

[Trolca 15]

Will there be a tutorial for making/creating our own train engines and wagons(like yours but our way and with our own looks).

 

I can put something together. One problem with many people making mods is if they assign Instance numbers on their own and then share their mods with others, sooner or later, conflicts will start showing up. These conflicts shouldn't be harmful in anyway. In most cases, newer mods will replace older ones. It's also possible to end up odd looking hybrids.

 

I need some help on puting the FSH back into the game. I can create the FSH, then edit it, but i'm lost from there. Do you make it a .dat or how do you get it back in the ilive reader. I tryed the batch method and it did seem to work.If you could help me that would be great,thx.

 

Here is something I wrote some time ago on this subject.

 

Editing a FSH file

In the reader, open the DAT file.
If there isn't a list, click on the button "Fill the list".
Click on a S3D file in the main list on the left.
On the right at the top click on the Mats tab.
You should see a list starting with 0 and a name.
Click on one of the list and you should see an image that is tied to that number in the list.
Right click on the item in the list you want the FSH for. You should get a menu.
Click on "Save texture".
From there browse to where you want it and name it.

In FiSHman you can open that file.
Select Save As from the File menu and change the file type to BMP and save it.
You can make changes to the BMP.
Change the BMP file, it's a good idea to make what's called an Alpha Channel. A simple one would be anything that is totally black on the BMP image is black on the Alpha Channel image. Everything else on the Alpha Channel image is white.
Where the Alpha Channel is back, the image will be transparent, where it is white, the image will be solid. The Alpha Channel should be gray scale.
With the FSH file open click on the icon under the folder symbol Bitmaps, you should see the image on the right.
Right click on the icon for the image and select remove.
Right click on the icon again and select Insert, then Bitmap from the mini menu that appears.
You will get the Insert new bitmap window. Browse and select the BMP, do the same for the Alpha Channel. For FSH bitmap type, I go to the bottom of the list "DXT3 Compressed, with Alpha".
Now just select Save As from the File menu, you can either over write the original FSH or name it something else.

With the DAT opened, go back to the S3D
Click on the Mat tab on the left.
Select the item in the list that you made changes to.
Right click on that item and select replace texture, browse to the FSH file you made and select it.
The original image should be replaced with yours.
Select the Apply button at the top.
It would be a good idea not to change the main DAT files in the game.

To make a new DAT with your changes, highlight the files in the list on the right that you made changes to and select "Add to patch".
You can select them all at once or one at a time. When you are done click on the Patch Icon at the top then click on "Create DAT".

For the DAT to work, place it in the SimCity 4 Plugin folder.

[cat 0]

hey trolca can you make a spongebob train please and carts

[shanghai kid 6]

@Trolca
i would like to have some info on have to make my own versions(is the info on your answer - the way to do it?, if so forget this question).

Shanghai kid

[yoseph 0]

Hey Trolca! Now that your done with the River Haven set, could you please focus on the Long Island Railroad? Thanks!

[Trolca 15]

I haven't posted here for some time so here's a heads up.

 

Here are some images from the Ilive Reader of the Long Island Passenger Engine. I'll release the set when it's complete.

 

I'll be going back to the River Haven set then move on to a Spunge Bob freight set.

[stp243 8]

trolca, this looks great so far. i cant wait to see the completed set!

[BamaKid325 1]

The Long Island Train is looking good. Can't wait for it to come out.

[frogface 352]

nice trains trolca! how do you make new models for trains? what programs do you need? i think i can figure out the rest.  

[Trolca 15]

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On 12/7/2003 11:50:06 AM frogface wrote:

nice trains trolca! how do you make new models for trains? what programs do you need? i think i can figure out the rest.

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I use the Ilive reader and FiSHman. I make modifications by changing the Vertices values.

For the most part the model is broken up into four and three sided polygons. In some cases like the passenger engine, many polygons form one more complex mesh. Each polygon has points which corrispond to the Vertices values.

 

X and Z are split between negative and positive numbers with 0 being center for each. With the front of the model facing you, positive X is on the right, positive Z is the front. Y starts with 0 at ground level.

By changing these numbers the shape itself is changed.

 

Next is the U and V columns which determine how the skin (the FSH file) is mapped onto each polygon. The numbers range from 0 to 1. 0 being the left side for U and the top for V. 1 is the left side for U and the bottom for V. All the numbers for U and V fall between 0 and 1 with 0.5 being the halfway point.

 

For the most part, train engines and cars are split up into parts. Each part is numbered from 0 to around 5 or 6. In some cases like the trucks (wheels), there is duplications. I'm not sure why this is done.

The most common arrangement would include the main body, two parts for trucks, couplers for one or both ends, and a shadow underneath. By adjusting the couplers and shadow parts, you can shorten the distantance between cars.

 

Just open one of the S3D files in the reader and start changing the values.

[frogface 352]

im changing the numbers for vertices but nothing seems to happen. is it under the column: vert? if so what do i change for group 0?

[yoseph 0]

Oh man! That looks awesome, Trolca! I can't wait until they're done!

[yoseph 0]

Oh yeah. Are you done with the Long Island Railroad train set yet? I saw those pictures of your work on them so far and they look great! Keep up the good work!

[+Guest]

That is a nice LIRR engine, I guess those links helped(the NYCsubway.com link).

[Trolca 15]

Thanks for the links they did help. I still never got any good profile images though. Strait side views would help alot. Everyone seems to take pictures at an angle to get as much of the train as possible.

I hope to have some passenger cars for LIRR tonight or tomarrow.

[Trolca 15]

Here's the Long Island Railroad commuter set.

 

I have a feeling I don't have the cars right. I didn't find very good images of them. Let me know what you think. I could update them later on. I hope this is good enough to hold everyone over until then.

 

 

 

 

 

[frogface 352]

well i have to say trolca... Well done!

i know how hard it can be to find textures but still i think you did a great job!

[a0z1 3]

Wonderful! how cxan you do these works of art! you could work for maxis! you are an elite train maker! these help so much! Thank you!