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So in an effort to stop derailing the Donald Trump topic, I've made this topic. First, you are in no position to judge any of that, seeing how you are neither a Muslim or a woman. Undoubtedly there is significantly more pressure in the more orthodox communities for women to wear a hijab. However, a lot of Muslims are not actually part of any orthodox community, they are moderates who believe people should be allowed to make their own choices in life, including whether you want to wear a hijab or not. And even in Orthodox communities, it can still be a choice. Just one that has more negative consequences to someone who chooses not to conform. However, those negative consequences apply to every member that refuses to conform, not just women. The standards of conformity are different for men and women though, which is why yes, those orthodox communities do have a problem with sexism. It only becomes actual oppression when choosing not to conform results in violence directed at the person who doesn't want to conform. So, losing friends as a result of your choices, not oppression, getting physically hurt or killed because of your choices, oppression. Finally, I find this hijab talk a little ironic. I mean really, the people that make this type of argument are usually also the ones that complain about Feminazis and how Feminism is ruining everything. But when they can use it to rag on Muslims, they are suddenly oh so concerned with the well being of Muslim women. If you actually gave a damn, you would have realized that telling women not to wear a hijab because it supposedly oppresses them is still you, a guy, telling women how they should dress. Honor killings, arranged marriages and FGM's are not widely accepted or practiced Islamic cultural tennets. Yes, in some Islamic countries these things happen, but that doesn't mean its somehow the entire Muslim community that does all of these things. Also, we are a bit biased in these things. For example, we find it perfectly okay that boys have their foreskins removed for religious or even no reason at all. And while we don't call them honor killings, how often don't you read a story about some jealous ex boyfriend who murders his ex because they broke up? And being stuck in a marriage you don't want happens everywhere for all kinds of reasons. That said, yes the state does have every right to consider these practices undesirable and take steps to ensure that they don't happen within the state's territory. No one is arguing that this should not be the case. *Sigh* They aren't supporting Islam, they are supporting religious freedom. You know, the ability of people to chose to live by a set of religious standards if they so desire. And that includes their right to wear a hijab. But yeah, do keep mansplaining feminism to feminists. And you can't see a second wave feminists teaming up with unlikely allies? Well, how about that time they teamed up with hardcore conservatives to ban porn? Because that was totally a thing. And you have completely missed the point of both protests. Are women in Iran demanding that the hijab be banned completely? No, they are not. And are Feminists in the west arguing every woman should wear a hijab? No they are not. Both are protesting for the ability to choose. They want a choice. Either the choice to not wear a hijab and not get punished for it, or the choice to wear a hijab and also not get punished for it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be able to choose. Because thats what freedom is supposed to be about, having the ability to choose for yourself how you live your life.
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The situation in Sweden gets more frustrating by the day, it seems. I am strongly opposed to feminism, but I hardly even dare to open my mouth about it. This guy gets it.
