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Not from what I have seen, other than those things.

Underground mall diagram Underground mall

The roof pictures are hard to find; I was lucky to have found some of the above pictures, and even those are from a distance. Aside from the roof, do you need pictures of anything else, like the plaza or WTC7?

Overhead view of section of Marriott roof Large image of trade center Large fly-by photo Close-up of towers and Marriott Evening photo of trade center Twin Towers and Statue of Liberty

Smurfer, here is a bonus just for you. Philippe Petit's highwire walk between the towers in 1974: >

Photo showing part of Marriott roof Helicopter shot of roofs (Horizontally inverted) South tower sign Peace on earth Sculpture at plaza entrance Sculpture at plaza entrance 2 Plaza Plaza sculpture photos Large plaza photos Memorial Fountain with view of Marriott entrance

That looks accurate, at least based on the few pictures available on the Internet showing that part of the hotel. As for the delivery area, it probably would have been part of the side wall that the northwest lot outline in the above picture represents, and not necessarily part of the Marriott building itself. Because the trade center was on sloped ground, wouldn't certain parts like that have to be left out of the final lot?

dc82: Great job on New York City! It's such a treat to see the towers back in their place. As for being able to see the lights at night, check that you have everything installed in the proper order: SimCity 4, Update, Rush Hour, Update, gmax, BAT Tool, Update. Also, make sure you play the game with the Rush Hour CD-ROM. Sometimes no-CD patches and fixed .exe files can interfere. Good luck! As you might imagine, the towers at night are breathtaking in-game as they once were in real life.

Aren't they great, Wolfe? And to think, the original towers basically were cities within a city. Each tower had its own zip code!

Here is a picture showing the very small gap between the Marriott and One World Trade. I'll keep looking for a picture showing the left side.

Here are some; I'll be looking for more. http://sept11marriottsurvivors.org/pic/pic16.jpg> > http://sept11marriottsurvivors.org/pic/pic25.jpg> > Large picture of hotel front here .

jcab: It's called Blue Condos; more information can be found here and here .

Enjoy your week off, rubik. I say we all chip in and send rubik to the Bahamas for a vacation.

rubik, you've done an amazing job. Simply amazing. I couldn't get those towers plopped fast enough. They look wonderful in-game, and I was reminded for the first time in a while just how tall they were in real life. Thanks again for your hard work. It shows, and it has paid off in dividends. Congratulations!

Hi otakunow, you can find pictures and information on the new WTC plans here and here .

Here is a fact sheet for the 80 South Street Tower from its official website, 80southstreettower.com .

Here is one of the New York Times articles discussing the proposed tower: Thinking Outside Box, Architect Comes Up With Cubes By DAVID W. DUNLAP Published: March 3, 2004 - New York Times Fresh from causing a sensation with his avian design for the World Trade Center transportation hub, the architect and artist Santiago Calatrava is ready to make a second startling mark on the Lower Manhattan skyline with a residential tower unlike any New York has ever seen. It would take the form of an offset stack of 45-foot glass cubes, a dozen in all, each intended to house only one or two families. Resembling some of Mr. Calatrava's sculptures, but on a titanic scale of 835 feet, the tower would rise over the East River at South and Fletcher Streets, near the South Street Seaport and the Brooklyn Bridge. The developer, Frank J. Sciame, estimated its completion in 2006 or 2007. It will be very expensive to build - just how expensive the developer will not say - and very expensive for prospective owners. But then again, Mr. Sciame said, you only need between 12 and 24 interested parties in the entire world. In an alternating pattern, four-story cubes would be cantilevered from a concrete core containing elevators, stairways, plumbing and electric lines. Alongside the cubes would be pairs of slender stabilizing spines, turning the entire composition into a gigantic truss. The top of one cube would serve as the terrace for the next cube up. The cubes could be single dwellings of about 10,000 square feet, or divided. The building would also have an eight-story base that could house a museum or other cultural institution. We cannot say form follows function, Mr. Calatrava said yesterday by telephone from his home in Zurich. In this case, function follows form. And it works. The tower would replace a six-story red-brick building at 80 South Street, upland from the sailing ship Wavertree, that serves as the headquarters of Sciame Development and the F. J. Sciame Construction Company. While there is no guarantee that the tower will be built, both Mr. Sciame and Mr. Calatrava have established reputations for completing unusual projects. Though it would be among the tallest apartment towers in New York, 80 South Street would have only 175,000 square feet of space. Mr. Sciame said he was trying to configure it so that it could be built as of right; that is, within existing zoning regulations and without the need for discretionary city approvals and a full public land-use review. So far, the project has been embraced by some of those who have seen it. Santiago Calatrava's design concept for 80 South Street is one of the most unique and compelling this city has seen in decades, Amanda M. Burden, the director of the Department of City Planning, said in a statement yesterday. It would add an extraordinary dimension to the East River skyline. Carl Weisbrod, the president of the Alliance for Downtown New York, which oversees the Lower Manhattan business improvement district, said 80 South Street would be a boon to the East River waterfront - an area that has not gotten as much attention as the Hudson - and to the South Street Seaport Historic District, in part by drawing down some of the unused development rights generated by the small structures in the district. Perhaps not every preservationist would agree that a structure reaching 1,000 feet at the tip of its mast would complement a nearby precinct of 19th-century countinghouses. But Madelyn Wils, the chairwoman of the Lower Manhattan community board, said she did not think that the structure's height would be controversial particularly given its slenderness and transparency. It's such an unusual building, it's worth taking a chance on, she said. Mr. Calatrava, a Spanish citizen who is an artist as well as an architect and engineer, has explored the expression of the human body in sculptures of marble and ebony cubes supported by chromium-plated steel cables. His relationship with Mr. Sciame began two years ago, when he asked for help in remodeling his Upper East Side townhouse. Mr. Sciame, a contractor and a developer, said he was impressed by Mr. Calatrava's sculptures and by his Turning Torso apartment tower, under construction in Malmo, Sweden. He invited Mr. Calatrava to the South Street site, where the architect found a place to explore the torso theme on a colossal scale. New York is the place to make a statement like that, Mr. Calatrava said. Though he has been a presence on the New York architectural scene since 1992, after he won a competition to complete the Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine, Mr. Calatrava's only finished work in the city is the Times Capsule of 2001, a sculptural time capsule commissioned by The New York Times, which stands outside the American Museum of Natural History. With his two new projects, Mr. Calatrava has jumped to the forefront of architects involved in rebuilding Lower Manhattan. And he seems to feel at home. If I was not born in this lifetime in New York, he said yesterday, certainly in a previous life, I was a New Yorker. Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

I remember that; here is the story from CNN.

rubik, in the most recent picture of the towers at night, the lights are visible on the south side of each tower, but they are off on the east side. Just curious, is that something that can be fixed?

Well, I can't yet use the B.A.T., so I try to make myself useful somehow. I've studied the trade center for a few years now, so hopefully rubik can benefit from trivia like this, obsessive though it may seem.

Looking great, rubik! That's good that they can each fit in a 4x4 space. For the sake of the full release of the trade center, you might want to leave a 2-tile gap between the towers rather than a 3-tile gap, because the length of space between the original towers was about half the length of one of the towers. Just another little fun fact.